Had another coworker who knew one of the assistant coaches back then. Donate wouldn’t do his strength & conditioning work. The S&C coach would go to Jackie & would be told to leave Dontae alone. I didn’t believe him at first, but it became pretty clear he was telling the truth.
Topic stolen from Reddit: Who is our best and most-hated former player?
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He wasn't the only one getting away with that kind of crap that year. I'm not saying we paid for a bunch of players but it sure seems like we paid for a bunch of players (or maybe paid extra) and they decided to hold that against the coaches to avoid accountability.
my relative said there were several guys who skipped S&C, were late to practice, etc. and there was zero punishment. That type of thing metastisises and there was no respect for the coaches.
No doubt about it. We went on probation for a reason. Another tidbit from that former coworker. We had the free hotel for Kelly & Wright covered, but we screwed up & missed one week. That was the one we got nailed on.
This is easy! Tyson Lee. All he had to do is give the ball to Boobie. What the hell was all 5'9" of him thinking?!
The answer is absolutely Willie Gay from most, and it’s not really fair to him. Our fans turned on him without even learning the details
In football?
Best: Dak
Most hated: Maybe Kylin Hill or Malik Heath
In all sports?
Best: I feel like the line starts behind Bailey Howell and Will Clark.
Most hated: Reynardo Sidney? Though that’s maybe not entirely his fault.
Best: Dak
Most hated: Maybe Kylin Hill or Malik Heath
In all sports?
Best: I feel like the line starts behind Bailey Howell and Will Clark.
Most hated: Reynardo Sidney? Though that’s maybe not entirely his fault.
You could really go with any number of guys from Stansbury’s last few basketball teams. Renardo was far from the only locker room problem.
Tier 1: Gary Ervin, Malik Heath, RaRa Thomas, Renardo Sidney;
Tier 2: Fred McCrary, Derrick Taite, Tommy Kelly;
Tier 3: Dee Bost, Slate Alford
Tier 2: Fred McCrary, Derrick Taite, Tommy Kelly;
Tier 3: Dee Bost, Slate Alford
Im generally in agreement with most of your posts (ducking) but this one seems out there even for you.
I think maybe you misread the assignment. For one, most of these were far from great ( or ability to be great).
Tier 1: WTF did Gary Ervin do to you to get on the same tier as Hawaii 5.0? I'll give you Reynardo (my #1)
Tier 2: What did Fred McCrary do? What did Derrick Taite do besides a Sherrill?
Tier 3: Dee Bost? Com on man, what the hell did he do? Slate Alford?, yeah ok but "great" we'll see.
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Tommy Kelly. Had a couple classes with him. He did everything to make himself a doosh bag. Would walk into class with sunglasses on and would keep them on. Would walk into class talking loudly on his phone and not stop. Would leave class to go to the bathroom 2-3 times. Never seen a more “look at me” guy ever. Total *** hat.
Kylin Hill once unfriended me on Facebook DURING a game we were losing for bad mouthing JoMo.
Love: Dak, Keifer, Eric Moulds Hate: Kelly, 'Tae, that kicker from Tupelo that couldn't get it downfield, short hands Hargrove, and anybody from Western Arizona CC
I mean the dude got booed by 45,000 fans at his own Senior Day. That’s pretty wild to think about even to this day.
I don't believe you understood the assignment. It wasn't best, and most hated, it was best AND most hated, in the same person.
I cannot believe Bart hyche didn't get mentioned at all.**
I know this is player specific but I'd love to see this debate with coaches. Lemo, Polk, Stans, Dan, etc. It just keeps going and going
A lot of obvious ones already named so I’ll try to go off the beaten path with mine.
Football - Michael Brown. Had potential NFL ability at OT and largely threw it all away due to being a thug and a moron. Having even a loose association with the guy who drove the Budweiser car makes him an automatic douche bag who was running in very sketchy crowds. And of course we now know that any player who wasn’t Tebow from that mid-2000’s UF culture was likely a clown and a problem child. Bonus points here for his hilarious and shameless exploitation of the “sick relative / need to be closer to home” loophole to transfer without sitting a year, when he moved exactly 37 miles closer to his hometown of College Park, GA than he was when he was in Gainesville. Even though it benefitted our team temporarily, still a bush league move in my book….we’d have eviscerated OM for doing something like that under Freeze / Orgeron. 17 that guy.
Basketball - Robert Jackson. Starter for 3 years who was beloved by fans. Got the big head and thought he was bigger than the program. Got benched for not hustling and putting in effort on defense in 2001 NIT and got into it w/Stans over it. Decides to give the bird to the entire fanbase and transfer for his senior year. Douche bag.
Baseball - Brad Corley. Known as a tremendous douche bag off the field by folks who had encounters with him. Flipped off his own fans in the LFL for saying something to him he didn’t like. Might have also had some legal issues….can’t remember. He could hit some bombs though.
Football - Michael Brown. Had potential NFL ability at OT and largely threw it all away due to being a thug and a moron. Having even a loose association with the guy who drove the Budweiser car makes him an automatic douche bag who was running in very sketchy crowds. And of course we now know that any player who wasn’t Tebow from that mid-2000’s UF culture was likely a clown and a problem child. Bonus points here for his hilarious and shameless exploitation of the “sick relative / need to be closer to home” loophole to transfer without sitting a year, when he moved exactly 37 miles closer to his hometown of College Park, GA than he was when he was in Gainesville. Even though it benefitted our team temporarily, still a bush league move in my book….we’d have eviscerated OM for doing something like that under Freeze / Orgeron. 17 that guy.
Basketball - Robert Jackson. Starter for 3 years who was beloved by fans. Got the big head and thought he was bigger than the program. Got benched for not hustling and putting in effort on defense in 2001 NIT and got into it w/Stans over it. Decides to give the bird to the entire fanbase and transfer for his senior year. Douche bag.
Baseball - Brad Corley. Known as a tremendous douche bag off the field by folks who had encounters with him. Flipped off his own fans in the LFL for saying something to him he didn’t like. Might have also had some legal issues….can’t remember. He could hit some bombs though.
Your clues (big feces, dumbledore feet, **** for brains) leads me to guess Marcus Campbell?
If we're talking talent that was wasted by association with the Budweiser car, add Anthony Johnson to the list.
Didn't he get kicked off by Croom for discharging a gun on campus?
Didn't he get kicked off by Croom for discharging a gun on campus?
I was gonna say Brad Corley. He is in an elite douche class all by himself. That guy was a horrible person and never made anything of himself on the diamond because of his attitude.
No, that was Michael Brown.
I think Anthony Johnson either failed out of school or failed drug test. Transferred to JSU after.
From a Brad Locke article in April 2008:
He was then suspended from the team and left school after his involvement in a shooting incident in March of 2008. He later re-enrolled but was ineligible for play because of his withdrawal.
It may have been a separate incident, or maybe it was his gun that Brown used. But Brown 100% had the gun and fired the gun on campus.
ETA: See link below. Quinton Wesley was the other player with Brown who also got kicked out of school, and he also had a prior assault conviction. Combine all that with the Jessie Bowman signing with MSU from behind bars, and it just goes to show that Croom didn’t really “clean up the program” nearly the way people thought he did. Biggest scam ever put over on our fanbase.
Two former Mississippi State players sentenced
Two former Mississippi State players were given suspended sentences for firing guns on campus in March.
www.espn.com
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Brown actually did us a favor. If those guys weren’t kicked off the team, we probably win two more games and Croom doesn’t get fired. Brown was a legit NFL tackle, Johnson was solid at CB, Hughes was a good LB. Imagine having those guys, and of course things play out differently and Jamar Chaney doesn’t break his ankle at latech. That’s a completely different team.
Brown literally had the biggest impact on MSU football of any player under croom. We don’t fire croom after that season, never hire Mullen, Dak is a TE at LSU
I’m not sure what games we win with those guys. Were they collectively the secret sauce needed to get that elusive 2nd safety against Auburn? I don’t think so. Our only other close loss was at home against UK, where we had a blocked extra point that cost us the game. Even if we made the XP and won in OT or something, I don’t see that saving Croom if the Egg Bowl still went down the way that it did.
I think it has to be John Cohen, though it took 30 years for everyone to come to hate him.
why didn't we get him into shape? He shows up looking like a pulling guard and we can't get him into shape or did we just give up?
He gave up and walked out during a game and that's the worst.