State taxpayers need to stop subsidizing JUCO programs and “D1 programs” at Alcorn and Valley. Delta State as well.
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State taxpayers need to stop subsidizing JUCO programs and “D1 programs” at Alcorn and Valley. Delta State as well.
MC is a private school and they made a business decision.
Public institutions are paid for by public money. And that ain't nobody's business but the gubmit's.
Next thing you'll be wanting is for them to stop funding dear old state.
Public institutions are paid for by public money. And that ain't nobody's business but the gubmit's.
Next thing you'll be wanting is for them to stop funding dear old state.
Taxpayer money should not be funding dear ol' State's football team.
Mostly because we mishandling those funds
Not even TX or California funds the amount of JC football, per capita, we do. It's insane, and we get very little return on those dollars. We're the poorest state.
Correct. They need to be funding Southern’s Volleyball team.
There are some good competitive programs that are worth keeping. But some exist for very little reason.
In the late 90s, an older girl at my Church asked me to give her a tennis lesson or two. She had just been given a tennis scholarship to the local community college, and she had never played before.
In the late 90s, an older girl at my Church asked me to give her a tennis lesson or two. She had just been given a tennis scholarship to the local community college, and she had never played before.
Women’s golf scholarships are crazy. I know a guy who got his daughter to start playing golf when she was 14 or 15 and got on the highschool golf team and then started getting scholarship offers from small colleges to play. She might break 95 on a good day.
A few years ago a buddy and I decided to play golf at Gulf Shotes Country Club late on a Sunday afternoon. We pull up and there are school vans and buses everywhere. The D3 whatever conference tournament started on Monday morning and they were all there playing their practice rounds. At the time I had only been playing a year or so and couldn’t break 100. Several groups would play a hole or two with us and then we’d come up on another group and play with or through them. Some groups would play the same hole multiple times. I believe that I could have been competitive on the women’s side. As DCD said, these small schools will give a woman’s golf scholarship to anyone willing to play.
It's a shell game at these regional colleges when it comes to revenue and expenses - including landgrant institutions like ours.
Delta State and MVSU gutted their entire academic offerings in the last couple of years, but have managed to keep funding most (maybe all, I don't know for sure) their athletic programs. I doubt either institution has athletic foundations that pay for even half of those programs.
What if it can be shown that taxpayer money going towards a football team is a net benefit to the state from an educational perspective?
Example- for every $1 in taxpayer money that goes to the MSU Football program, MSU sees a 19.83% return in overall educational revenue which can go to scholarships, staff salary, infrastructure improvements, etc and improve the University for students and staff alike.
Would it be worthwhile then?
In theory, a state could reduce its overall financial commitment to a university if focuses on targeted funding instead.
We are the poorest state, which is why we have such an extensive JUCO system. They were created in part to bring education to sparsely populated and underserved areas. I’m not sure how you can say we get very little return in those dollars. Something like 10% of the state (including myself) attended a JUCO and I know a lot of people who would have never gotten a chance at a four year college if they didn’t put in a year or two at a JUCO.
I think greenbean is referring to JUCO football specifically when he said 'we get very little return on those dollars'.
I am not sure how to quantify if JUCO football is a net positive or not for the state.
JUCO as a general entity though?...yeah that should absolutely still exist and I am sure there is high return on those dollars(at least that is the case for the many other states I have seen numbers for).
Did you fail to read the word after JC, "football?" Wherever JCs are or are not an effective use to tax dollars is totally different argument.
I can't any realistic argument that funding JC football is an effective use of tax dollars.
May as well not even try. Mississippians don’t see education as an investment. Everything is looked at as spending. Gotta cut cut cut because reasons (most of the time, those reasons are something that would benefit some group).
They won’t understand that some equations are linear. All they see is simple revenue minus expense.
I recognize your joke but the point still stands. We just need to cut every program and job that doesn’t produce a short term profit.
Clay Edwards, morning radio in Jxn, says the football field is sitting on an expensive piece of real estate, and where the field sits now will likely developed in the next few years.
I suspected it was more than meets the eye.
Not real sure how land in Clinton is ripe for development, but still.
It’s an endowment from the Speed family. MS students who live on campus and get a meal plan have tuition covered for four years.
My hypothetical does exist though, in other scenarios with the same parameters.
There are countless examples at local, state, and federal levels where return on taxed investment is not just measurable but substantial.
The “free” tuition isn’t actually free, although it is heavily discounted. Yes, tuition is free if you live on campus with a meal plan. That cost adds up to approximately $14-15k/year. Heavily discounted, but not free.
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