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[kidrobinski]

"Imagining" and "knowing" are 2 different things. I would not be putting Beamer in Spurrier's coaching neighborhood, much less coaching class. Spurrier did it. "Imagining" is not doing it. Spurrier could do the X's and O's. EVERYBODY KNOWS that's not Beamer. That's no secret.

Lol; thats a figure of speech friend, but (I hope) you know that anyway. And I'm a huge Spurrier fan btw, always have been; just tired of the Beamer wasn't a coordinator nonsense. Nonetheless, Spurrier's coaching 'chops' don't negate the cheat code recruits that landed in his lap that yes, I imagine Beamer would have done pretty well with also.

Btw, your last two sentences are false.

 

[gamecock stock]

Lol; thats a figure of speech friend, but (I hope) you know that anyway. And I'm a huge Spurrier fan btw, always have been; just tired of the Beamer wasn't a coordinator nonsense. Nonetheless, Spurrier's coaching 'chops' don't negate the cheat code recruits that landed in his lap that yes, I imagine Beamer would have done pretty well with also.

Btw, your last two sentences are false.

On the last 2 sentences, they are true or I would not have posted them. More precise, maybe I should have said, "Most of us know". I too used a figure of speech. Regardless, we will agree to disagree on that.

The appropriate question is: Is not being either an OC or DC a detriment to his performance as a Head Coach? The jury is still out on that my friend. After all, I don't think Beamer got an extension after the 2023 season. Regarding recruiting, all we can do is speculate what Beamer would have done in Spurrier shoes.

What do we KNOW about recruiting? His high school recruiting classes beyond his first year have finished:
13th out of 14 SEC teams plus finished behind Clemson
7th out of 14 SEC teams plus finished behind Clemson
10th out of 16 SEC teams plus behind Clemson
Currently 10th out of 16 SEC teams plus behind Clemson
Our schedule will be mostly SEC teams plus Clemson.

His recruiting of high school prospects has been poor. comparatively speaking. That's not speculation. Those are the numbers. We can evolve to saying maybe he can make up for that through the portal. The problem with that is many who enter the portal are either malcontents and trouble makers, lack talent or may be injury prone.

We can go back and forth regarding Beamer's coaching ability. LOL But, I think we can definitely find common ground by agreeing that Beamer is going to have to really pick up his recruiting if he is to make Carolina a force within the SEC and become a national brand name as Clemson is.

 

[TheRoo]

On the last 2 sentences, they are true or I would not have posted them. More precise, maybe I should have said, "Most of us know". I too used a figure of speech. Regardless, we will agree to disagree on that.

The appropriate question is: Is not being either an OC or DC a detriment to his performance as a Head Coach? The jury is still out on that my friend. After all, I don't think Beamer got an extension after the 2023 season. Regarding recruiting, all we can do is speculate what Beamer would have done in Spurrier shoes.

What do we KNOW about recruiting? His high school recruiting classes beyond his first year have finished:
13th out of 14 SEC teams plus finished behind Clemson
7th out of 14 SEC teams plus finished behind Clemson
10th out of 16 SEC teams plus behind Clemson
Currently 10th out of 16 SEC teams plus behind Clemson
Our schedule will be mostly SEC teams plus Clemson.

His recruiting of high school prospects has been poor. comparatively speaking. That's not speculation. Those are the numbers. We can evolve to saying maybe he can make up for that through the portal. The problem with that is many who enter the portal are either malcontents and trouble makers, lack talent or may be injury prone.

We can go back and forth regarding Beamer's coaching ability. LOL But, I think we can definitely find common ground by agreeing that Beamer is going to have to really pick up his recruiting if he is to make Carolina a force within the SEC and become a national brand name as Clemson is.

The jury is still out? He's been the coach for 3.5 years and, as a whole, is performing as well as any coach we've have in a more difficult environment.

The recruiting numbers are going to slide if you don't have big money to pay for today's talent like the other schools. Give Beamer $25 million to work with each year and we'll be in the Top 10 in no time.

 

[gamecock stock]

The jury is still out? He's been the coach for 3.5 years and, as a whole, is performing as well as any coach we've have in a more difficult environment.

The recruiting numbers are going to slide if you don't have big money to pay for today's talent like the other schools. Give Beamer $25 million to work with each year and we'll be in the Top 10 in no time.

Well. tell Tanner to extend his contract that he didn't do after last season. Better yet, sign him up, to a lifetime contract since he "is performing as well as any coach we've have in a more difficult environment".

 

[TheRoo]

Well. tell Tanner to extend his contract that he didn't do after last season. Better yet, sign him up, to a lifetime contract since he "is performing as well as any coach we've have in a more difficult environment".

Are you drama farming? Tanner isn't going to extend a contract in a 5-win season. If he had picked up one more, he would have received it. Do you not believe we're doing much better than expected this season with what we have to work with given the teams we've face?

Also, what does this have to do with not having a good recruiting budget? One of the big newspapers (Boston Globe?) wrote a good piece a few months back on how the college football recruiting rankings have become a proxy for how much NIL funding a school has. The idea of blaming Beamer because our recruiting ranking has slipped doesn't hold water.

 

[Tngamecock]

I mean the level of play where we go into the #1 team's stadium and handily defeat them. Those 3 good Spurrier years are getting smaller and smaller in the rear view mirror. Today's freshmen were 7 in 2013, the seniors were 11. Quite a lot of the fans who enjoyed our lone conference championship are dead now and the ones who are still alive are on Medicare.

Why do you use words like “our?”

 

[Tngamecock]

Why do yall post with Piscis like it’s an actual conversation? It has an agenda which smells of taterism. Just calling a spade a spade.

 

[gamecock stock]

Are you drama farming? Tanner isn't going to extend a contract in a 5-win season. If he had picked up one more, he would have received it. Do you not believe we're doing much better than expected this season with what we have to work with given the teams we've face?

Also, what does this have to do with not having a good recruiting budget? One of the big newspapers (Boston Globe?) wrote a good piece a few months back on how the college football recruiting rankings have become a proxy for how much NIL funding a school has. The idea of blaming Beamer because our recruiting ranking has slipped doesn't hold water.

So juror Tanner was not yet convinced.

In answer to your question, I had us down for going 7-5 this season. Do a search and you will see.

As far as recruiting budget is concerned, I do not know what our recruiting budget is compared to other schools. I have not seen any listing of our NIL monies compared to other schools.

 

[TheRoo]

So juror Tanner was not yet convinced.

In answer to your question, I had us down for going 7-5 this season. Do a search and you will see.

As far as recruiting budget is concerned, I do not know what our recruiting budget is compared to other schools. I have not seen any listing of our NIL monies compared to other schools.

There was no need for an extension last season. Tanner didn't need to do anything so he elected for a push.

I'm not overly concerned with any win count with the state of the offense this season. It's about performance week to week and we've done well as a team.

We're hardly ever in any discussion about NIL players. It's not hard to see that we're nowhere close to the schools that are regularly bidding for them.

 

[gamecock stock]

There was no need for an extension last season. Tanner didn't need to do anything so he elected for a push.

I'm not overly concerned with any win count with the state of the offense this season. It's about performance week to week and we've done well as a team.

We're hardly ever in any discussion about NIL players. It's not hard to see that we're nowhere close to the schools that are regularly bidding for them.

I believe you always want to extend the contract if you can, for recruiting purposes.

We are about where I thought we'd be in Beamer's 4th season.

I and others have been on here wanting to see how we stack up regarding NIL monies to others.

 

[TheRoo]

I believe you always want to extend the contract if you can, for recruiting purposes.

We are about where I thought we'd be in Beamer's 4th season.

I and others have been on here wanting to see how we stack up regarding NIL monies to others.

A 4-Year lag is the base contract. At the end of this season, they'll have to decided whether to extend or not.

There's no NIL budget disclosures to date. You hare to reach rough estimates based on cumulative bidding within any given year.

 

[gamecock stock]

A 4-Year lag is the base contract. At the end of this season, they'll have to decided whether to extend or not.

There's no NIL budget disclosures to date. You hare to reach rough estimates based on cumulative bidding within any given year.

Beamer was hired with a 5-year contract and his extension was for 5 years. Also, an extension is interpreted as a vote of confidence.

Until we have actual NIL data, there is only speculation on how we stack up. And the thing to consider, we all need to be aware of, is that one can have boatloads of money. But are they making the right choices with that money. It's like buying stocks. You can have a lot to invest. But, you better choose the right stocks. Nick Saban himself said the same thing about NIL money.

 

[TheRoo]

Beamer was hired with a 5-year contract and his extension was for 5 years. Also, an extension is interpreted as a vote of confidence.

Until we have actual NIL data, there is only speculation on how we stack up. And the thing to consider, we all need to be aware of, is that one can have boatloads of money. But are they making the right choices with that money. It's like buying stocks. You can have a lot to invest. But, you better choose the right stocks. Nick Saban himself said the same thing about NIL money.

As mentioned above, it was a push year and it had no impact on anything besides not getting locked into another bailout if this year went sideways.

Nick Saban also criticized the NIL almost daily before he retired.

While we don't have the actual figures, there's plenty of discussion being had in the media about teams with large NIL budgets and we're never in those discussions. Certainly you believe having $20 million or more to spend on a team year as compared to maybe $5 million offers a a major competitive advantage on the football field?

 

[gamecock stock]

As mentioned above, it was a push year and it had no impact on anything besides not getting locked into another bailout if this year went sideways.

Nick Saban also criticized the NIL almost daily before he retired.

While we don't have the actual figures, there's plenty of discussion being had in the media about teams with large NIL budgets and we're never in those discussions. Certainly you believe having $20 million or more to spend on a team year as compared to maybe $5 million offers a a major competitive advantage on the football field?

Believe it or not, I'm strongly pulling for Beamer. DON'T take this as bragging but, I spent too many years on the USC campus getting both a Bachelors and Masters degree to not pull for him. We are just going around in circles repeating ourselves. We just have to agree to disagree. Kindness matters and it's really cheap. Anybody can do it. No hard feelings on my part, my friend. How about that....deal or no deal?

 

[TheRoo]

Believe it or not, I'm strongly pulling for Beamer. DON'T take this as bragging but, I spent too many years on the USC campus getting both a Bachelors and Masters degree to not pull for him. We are just going around in circles repeating ourselves. We just have to agree to disagree. Kindness matters and it's really cheap. Anybody can do it. No hard feelings on my part, my friend. How about that....deal or no deal?

No hard feelings at all.