USA striker competition: Why Berhalter took Pepi, Sargent over Pefok, Vazquez | MLSSoccer.com
The No. 9 role was a constant talking point throughout the US men’s national team’s World Cup qualifying campaign, and so it remained on Wednesday as Gregg Berhalter released his 26-man roster for the program’s final tuneup before the journey to Qatar 2022 in November.www.mlssoccer.com
I don't know a lot about soccer but I like the way the team played when Pefok was on the pitch.This point is not my own, so I won’t take credit for it. But, when you’re allowed an extra three players on the WC roster, there is not much excuse for only including players who fit a certain mold or profile for a position (in a redundant way) when it results in a player, who is actually better than others but lacks the mold the coach likes, is left home. Put such a player on the roster because if what you have tactically planned with these “mold” players doesn’t work out in the first two games, then it may be great to have as an option someone who can do something a little different than the others. But, if that guy is not included, then what is your recourse?
I’m taking about Pefok.
It's an age-old question in coaching team sports: is it better to find a way to get all your best players on the field and then match your tactics to best suit them, or is it better to go with a set of tactics you think will work best and then find the "right" players for each position that are best suited for your system?I don't know a lot about soccer but I like the way the team played when Pefok was on the pitch.
Bad is too complimentary for that crap performance. There wasn't one single US player that played well. They were turnover machines....back 4 and midfield was awful.Wow, they look really bad today. Leonard Pinth-Garnell (too ancient of a reference?) will need to review their performance.
Wow, they look really bad today. Leonard Pinth-Garnell (too ancient of a reference?) will need to review their performance.
Bad is too complimentary for that crap performance. There wasn't one single US player that played well. They were turnover machines....back 4 and midfield was awful.
The entire midfield and back 4 just keep turning it over. Japan is forcing the US to the sideline, trapping them, and winning the ball back as the US has no answer in the middle of the field. We better pray Musah is healthy for the WC.certainly doesn't inspire much confidence for the World Cup. Their play has improved in the 2nd half, but still isn't stellar.
This right here is the heart of the problem with Gregg Berhalter as manager.
It's not simply the statement in and of itself, and it certainly has nothing to do with the hyperbole of five goals. The problem, as I see it and as I have expressed earlier in this thread, is that Berhalter is entirely convinced of a particular way to play—a particular system if you will—and that may not be the best approach for a national team setup. As others have pointed out, Gregg's philosophy is something that has a better chance to work at the club level, where one has the ability to buy new players from the outside to fit said system and the time to train them up, than it does at the national team level in which one lacks the same kind of freedom for roster building. With a national team, you must quickly find a way to maximize the best talent available in the pool. Right now, we seem settled with a set of players who fit profiles within a system. In the two key areas of thinner talent and depth within the pool (center backs and strikers), the system player profile has won out. That leaves us with center backs who are turnover risks with their distribution, and strikers who have either not been in great form or have not demonstrated the ability to finish consistently at this level. It's a bonus to have your strikers work hard to press and to make diagonal runs that can open space in the attack, but ultimately you need someone you can rely on to grab a goal when given just a few chances (because this team's xG is probably going to be low at the WC).I'd think that criticizing that statement is reading too much into it...I'd read that as he wants him to play within himself and not do too much. It's as if Joe said "I don't need Lavar to have 5 sacks tomorrow, I need him to play his role within our defense" (which was an issue that he had).
I don't disagree with aspects of this, but I also think that a) we've had a lot of success with this system over the past 24 months, b) I won't be at all surprised if Pefok is in Qatar, and c) much like the "backup QB" syndrome, people are overrating the guys that aren't on the squad today.It's not simply the statement in and of itself, and it certainly has nothing to do with the hyperbole of five goals. The problem, as I see it and as I have expressed earlier in this thread, is that Berhalter is entirely convinced of a particular way to play—a particular system if you will—and that may not be the best approach for a national team setup. As others have pointed out, Gregg's philosophy is something that has a better chance to work at the club level, where one has the ability to buy new players from the outside to fit said system and the time to train them up, than it does at the national team level in which one lacks the same kind of freedom for roster building. With a national team, you must quickly find a way to maximize the best talent available in the pool. Right now, we seem settled with a set of players who fit profiles within a system. In the two key areas of thinner talent and depth within the pool (center backs and strikers), the system player profile has won out. That leaves us with center backs who are turnover risks with their distribution, and strikers who have either not been in great form or have not demonstrated the ability to finish consistently at this level. It's a bonus to have your strikers work hard to press and to make diagonal runs that can open space in the attack, but ultimately you need someone you can rely on to grab a goal when given just a few chances (because this team's xG is probably going to be low at the WC).
I don't disagree with aspects of this, but I also think that a) we've had a lot of success with this system over the past 24 months, b) I won't be at all surprised if Pefok is in Qatar, and c) much like the "backup QB" syndrome, people are overrating the guys that aren't on the squad today.
When I read comments like "Berhalter is trash. People will say, “but he won games and got us qualified”...What really happened is he took the most talented US team ever and had them barely qualify.", I find it to be complete BS. We've got the youngest team we've ever put on the field at this level, and yet even with the ridiculous number of injuries that we've faced, we've played our way up to 14th in the World, qualified without too much stress and went into the final day knowing we'd all but locked it up, won the big competition that we cared about last year (the Nations League against a full strength Mexico side), and won the Gold Cup with our B team (and B might be generous). Things are heading down a pretty good track at the moment from what I see.
I mean, if Berhalter is holding us back so badly, what would have been the realistic expectation for this group over the past two years with a different coach?