USMNT 2022 World Cup Qualifying Thread

Erial_Lion

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What really bugs me is that this approach of accommodating the west coast is never reciprocated. How many times does a USMNT match on the west coast start before 10:00 EST? There are still significantly more people living in the eastern third of the country than the western third.
I’d say most West Coast games start before 10…next game is the Bosnia friendly in California, starting at 8pm Eastern. Last night game we played in the Pacific time zone on a weeknight was a 9:30pm kick. Before that was 8:30. I don’t remember many really late home games at all through the years.
 
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I’d say most West Coast games start before 10…next game is the Bosnia friendly in California, starting at 8pm Eastern. Last night game we played in the Pacific time zone on a weeknight was a 9:30pm kick. Before that was 8:30. I don’t remember many really late home games at all through the years.
Interesting, perhaps I have selective memory based on my all-important-TV-grievances. For grins and giggles I poured over the USMNT matches over the past four years and noticed that you are right about the 8pm and 9:30pm EST matches out West. However, the most recent World Cup Qualifier we had on the West Coast (back in 2017) started at 10:55PM EST (ugh). Perhaps that was jostling around in my memory. It's actually a little surprising to see how few USMNT matches have been played on the West Coast in recent years (especially when not counting Gold Cup games, which Concacaf controls). In 2016, there was a friendly in LA that started at 10:15 EST (so, I just have selective memory...).
 

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I'm shocked Weah is starting over Arriola...and quite happy with it.



Also, there is no way you will get to see this match begin on ESPN2 thanks to ESPN never deciding to expand their timeslots for college football games to be something more than three hours (which should have been done years ago).
 

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I'm shocked Weah is starting over Arriola...and quite happy with it.



Also, there is no way you will get to see this match begin on ESPN2 thanks to ESPN never deciding to expand their timeslots for college football games to be something more than three hours (which should have been done years ago).

?? the game being delayed for the college football game?
I’m watching it right now on ESPN2, 1:30 in. They moved the CFB game.
 
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I see they moved the AAC game. However, it would be great if college football games could be given at least 3.5 hour timeslots by the Disney company...you know, get with the times... when was the last time the average college game ends in under three hours? In the last couple of years, the average length has just about been pushing 3.5 hours. It becomes especially annoying when I'm searching the guide on TV for games to watch in crunch time in the fourth quarter, and those games no longer appear in the guide.
 

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USA D has been exposed on 2 plays. The first was on a bad square pass that was picked off by a Mexican attacker. The second was on some fancy passing by Mexico on a counter that sent a Mexican in free (defender hustled bad to not give the attacker the option of cutting the ball back). USA GK Steffen had to come up huge on the 2nd play. The USA has seemed to control play most of the time, but the El Tri's are dangerous with their counters and have great speed up top.
 

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And once again, Berhalter's squad can't get a goal in the 1st half. 0-0 at the half.
 

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USA D has been exposed on 2 plays. The first was on a bad square pass that was picked off by a Mexican attacker. The second was on some fancy passing by Mexico on a counter that sent a Mexican in free (defender hustled bad to not give the attacker the option of cutting the ball back). USA GK Steffen had to come up huge on the 2nd play. The USA has seemed to control play most of the time, but the El Tri's are dangerous with their counters and have great speed up top.
USA need to understand the value of the ball. They give it away too easily too many times. They also as a team have trouble controlling the ball. Watch how many times a first touch is too heavy or results in a bouncing ball, both of shock lead to slowing down the offense or loss of possession.
Also #9 is playing very poorly. Likely will be subbed off if this continues
 
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One thing I hate…we have a size advantage, yet we’re trying to play set pieces on the ground, a short corner, etc. Give me a few inswingers and let Pepi or Miles get on the end of it.
 

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This was before the Pulisic goal. The ref really messed this up. They're taught to not get too closely involved, and to stand back and observe. They can blow the hell out of their whistle, to try to keep things from escalating, but they need to be back at least a few steps to watch the players. Mexico's Rodriquez should have gotten a red for what he did to Aaronson, but the ref was too close to see what he did with his hands. The yellow to McKennie is kind of weak, but justifiable. I'm not sure why Steffen got a yellow.

 
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Robinson gets his 2nd yellow of the night (justified) at the 90 minute mark, so the USA will play down a man for the final 4 minutes of stoppage time.

 

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What a match. That was by far the most dominant match the US has had over Mexico. I could have given man of the match to so many players. Musah is the real deal. McKennie is the guy you want by your side in any fight. Pulisic doing what he does. Stefan came up huge. Weah was just insane. Berhalter just silenced a **** ton of critics. I thoroughly enjoyned that match. WC seems very likely and this team is a bunch of kids....just awesome.
 

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What a match. That was by far the most dominant match the US has had over Mexico. I could have given man of the match to so many players. Musah is the real deal. McKennie is the guy you want by your side in any fight. Pulisic doing what he does. Stefan came up huge. Weah was just insane. Berhalter just silenced a **** ton of critics. I thoroughly enjoyned that match. WC seems very likely and this team is a bunch of kids....just awesome.
Berhalter has deserved criticism for various things over his tenure. However, we must also give him credit when it’s deserved. He has a way of either motivating his team in the locker room at the half, or doing something impressive in small tactical adjustments. He also rolled out there a starting XI no one was angry with for the first time I can remember in WCQ…and see what happened? Very interesting. I give him credit for the starting XI and the subs tonight. He got all of it right.
 
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Berhalter has deserved criticism for various things over his tenure. However, we must also give him credit when it’s deserved. He has a way of either motivating his team in the locker room at the half, or doing something impressive in small tactical adjustments. He also rolled out there a starting XI no one was angry with for the first time I can remember in WCQ…and see what happened? Very interesting. I give him credit for the starting XI and the subs tonight. He got all of it right.
Top of the group at the turn. He has a young team to grow with.
 

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This was before the Pulisic goal. The ref really messed this up. They're taught to not get too closely involved, and to stand back and observe. They can blow the hell out of their whistle, to try to keep things from escalating, but they need to be back at least a few steps to watch the players. Mexico's Rodriquez should have gotten a red for what he did to Aaronson, but the ref was too close to see what he did with his hands. The yellow to McKennie is kind of weak, but justifiable. I'm not sure why Steffen got a yellow.
Steffen got it for running more than half the length of the field to get in the refs face about the Aaronson situation.
 
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Steffen got it for running more than half the length of the field to get in the refs face about the Aaronson situation.

First, there is no law against Steffen running that far from his goal area.

Second, it was a dead ball situation, so there isn't much of a focus on field players in terms of how far they roam from where they were before play was stopped. If Steffen were on the bench at the time of the incident, then that would be an issue.

Third, getting in the face of the ref would not by itself warrant a card. If it went on too long, that could warrant a card.

My suspicion is that the card was not based on how far Steffen ran to confront the ref, or his discussing/arguing the foul with the ref. Most cards issued in situations like that are given for dissent. And most cards given for dissent are based on what the player said to the ref (i.e., its degree of being inappropriate), with the second most common reason being persistent dissent by a particular player, which does not appear to be the case in this situation (though again, we don't know for sure).

I''ve rewatched the sequence several times, and I feel even more strongly than I did at the time of my prior post that the ref's actions caused him to miss the worst of the situation, and as such he really screwed up.
 
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