Again, if you don't want to have those other sports you are mentioning that's the route to take. Like it or not, football pays the bills for all of them but men's basketball. YES, that includes BASEBALL. If we quit trying in football we go division two REAL quick.
We all know the small group of teams competing for the football NC
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Except for in football, a Baylor type winning it all flat out isn’t possible. It will never happen. That’s the biggest difference. TCU is the closest comparison, and look what happened to them in the title game.
There’s more parity in college basketball than college football. A lot is due to the nature of the game where anyone can go down in a one game scenario, and it only takes 1 or 2 really good players to carry any team. Still not as much parity as you’d see in college baseball or other non-revenue sports. But its still better than CFB in that regard.
To play devil’s advocate, this isn’t nearly as true as it was 20 years ago….although it is still somewhat true.
We get $60 million per year just for being in the SEC and fielding a football team. And that amount goes up more every season. That’s just from the SEC Network contract. 20 years ago, we were pulling in about $20 million from football from the TV deals, donations, and ticket sales combined.
So, we definitely have enough automatic money coming in to just keep football going at some minimum level, while shifting NIL and other donations elsewhere….IF we chose to do that. However, I still don’t agree with moving all NIL and donations over to other sports. Even if we did that, we’d still get outspent in basketball by a good number of programs, and you simply can’t spend your way to a title in baseball. There’s way too much luck involved.
So you want MSU or OM to invest in the talent there, yet we basically never see the Jackson players be great, outside of when they are at MSU and OM.
So then the school's are doing what you want. They are investing in the talent there and signing the best.
What's your complaint now?
It would be devastating to our schools growth to it make the number one attraction to prospective students and alums to our campus the most important thing. We already face a huge problem that we are in a state that is slowly dying. Football is the single most important thing at any SEC school academically and athletically. Its why putting $60 mill cash into the Hump is one of the dumbest things we have ever done.
Football pays the bills for all other sports. Dan Mullen had as much to do with building The New Dude as much as anyone else. I wish IB(the I stands for Incompetent) would have went to Auburn a couple of years earlier so that we wouldn’t be wasting money on The Hump putting lipstick on a pig.
It is not an argument. It is an opinion on a sports forum. Would you rather go to the liberty bowl and the sweet 16 in March or go to the Gator Bowl and the NIT? That's my question so you understand.
Yes, and Baylor is a powerhouse? Gonzaga is also a powerhouse. We were in Women's basketball for two years. It's cheaper to get 3 or 4 blue chip basketball players than 30 4 and 5 star players like Alabama and Georgia every year.
Women’s hoops is coach driven.
Yes. That was my point. If Baylor winning it in a 40 year stretch makes you feel like there is parity go for it. But I look at the list of winners and would never want to pour a bunch of money into men’s hoops. There just isn’t really any parity. We have to pluck one or two teams out. And if there was no tourney there would certainly be none. The tourney makes us feel like there is more than there really is.
Don’t go too far. Overly negative. State will grow again, and the Hump needs a facelift. We aren’t making it into the Yum Center. Just respectable.
Come back off that ledge man. I get the sentiment. But there are positives.
The state itself is losing people regularly. That’s likely not changing. Thats alums moving to states and their kids going to those home state schools. $60 mill for what we are doing is not smart.
We should have borrowed at low interest rates and built a new coliseum.
I think you are wrong here. One or two players can completely turn a basketball team around.
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