We Are…#93!

[BobPSU92]

Gambit: These metrics have everything to do with the methodology they use in ranking schools. The USN&WR rankings (with which most people are familiar) place a relatively higher emphasis on things like class size and alumni giving, which tend to favor private schools.

Frankly, I could not give a shiat where the private schools rank. All I care about is the publics. PSU came in as the No. 9 or 10 public university in the U.S. That is ample reason to rejoice, in my book.

We laugh at rejoicing.

 

[TiogaLion]

I certainly understand that methodology varies and accounts for differences in rankings. What I cannot understand is why I should take seriously any ranking that places us 112 spots above Dartmouth, and I don't.
If, for some reason, we were not part of this ranking, would anyone on this board take this one seriously knowing Pitt was ranked higher, by any methodology, than Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, and Virginia?
With that I will move on. I fear I am dampening the love fest.

One should question the wisdom of replying to a thread, which was created on the Penn State board for the purpose of making Penn Staters feel good, and attempt to trample their feelings and ruin any fun. Does this, which you seem to constantly do, make you feel better? Your exit, highlighted above, is classic gaslighting, which is not a good trait. Have a good day.

 

[fairgambit]

One should question the wisdom of replying to a thread, which was created on the Penn State board for the purpose of making Penn Staters feel good, and attempt to trample their feelings and ruin any fun. Does this, which you seem to constantly do, make you feel better? Your exit, highlighted above, is classic gaslighting, which is not a good trait. Have a good day.

Penn State is a good University but we're no Dartmouth, or UVA. That said, I agree with you. I should have left the thread alone. Stating the obvious served no purpose but to sully the thread and deprive it's loyalists of their illusions. That was not my intent but it appears that was the end result. I will attempt to be more judicious in the future.

 

[Lionville]

Ah, I am long over STEP and I really do love Penn State. It's the people that run her I have a problem with. Perhaps President Bendapudi will change that. I do have a problem with a ranking that lists us 112 places above Dartmouth and has both us, and Pitt, ahead of schools like Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, and Virginia. Still, the University will shout this ranking from the rooftops, as it should, and those who attend a lesser ranked school, like Dartmouth, will find solace in their home in the Hamptons.

And then there was this:

Dartmouth vs. Penn State Graduation Outcomes Comparison​

Which is better, Dartmouth or Penn State? Graduation rate, salary and amount of student loan debt are indicators of a college which offers better outcomes for its graduates. Compare the following outcomes facts between Penn State and Dartmouth.

• The graduation rate at Dartmouth is higher that Penn State Main Campus (95% vs. 87%)
• Graduates from Dartmouth College earn on average $48,700 more per year than Penn State graduates after ten years. ($104,000 vs. $55,300)
• Dartmouth College students graduate with a $13,357 lower median federal student loan debt than Penn State graduates. ($13,461 vs. $26,818)
• Dartmouth graduates are paying $138 less per month on federal student loans than Penn State graduates. ($139 vs. $277)
• More Dartmouth graduates are actively paying back their federal student loan debt than former Penn State students, three years after graduation. (87% vs. 69%)

Sources: U.S. Department of Education https://nces.ed.gov IPEDS and College Scorecard https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/

Of course, none of this matters. After all, we are #93 and Dartmouth is #205.

Having a kid who graduated from
Dartmouth and one from ND I can vouch for the value of their diplomas. Both are making more than their old man with a degree from PSU.

 

[Pennstatel0]

Having a kid who graduated from
Dartmouth and one from ND I can vouch for the value of their diplomas. Both are making more than their old man with a degree from PSU.

I have 3 kids who graduated from PSU, ages 28-33. All are earning 6 figure incomes.
PSU offers excellent opportunities. It up to individual students to make the most of those opportunities.

 

[TiogaLion]

Penn State is a good University but we're no Dartmouth, or UVA. That said, I agree with you. I should have left the thread alone. Stating the obvious served no purpose but to sully the thread and deprive it's loyalists of their illusions. That was not my intent but it appears that was the end result. I will attempt to be more judicious in the future.

Thanks for the backhanded apology, I'm sure everyone appreciates it.

 

[Nits74]

I certainly understand that methodology varies and accounts for differences in rankings. What I cannot understand is why I should take seriously any ranking that places us 112 spots above Dartmouth, and I don't.
If, for some reason, we were not part of this ranking, would anyone on this board take this one seriously knowing Pitt was ranked higher, by any methodology, than Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, and Virginia?
With that I will move on. I fear I am dampening the love fest.

Yes, by attempting to create a reality fest. Damn you, Fair.

 

[PSUJam]

 

[PSUJam]