Welp, looks like UT has passed us a bit
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All the talk and fabricated hype in the world can't recruit as well as what kids are seeing go on in Knoxville right now.
And some of our stupid fans were actually pulling for Tennessee. Just stupid. Hate all that's orange except maybe Okie St and Oregon St lol..
Oh and the Cuse when they play Clemson lol
Were there actually people cheering for them?
I saw the thread where, correctly imo, it was pretty much agreed that them doing better is terrible for us.
TN looks legit. I typically pull for the underdog in games that donāt involve Carolina. So Iām glad TN won.
They just hung 52 points and 567 yards on Bama. Whatever we find out on 11/119, it wonāt be good news.
The arrogance of our fans to suggest that Tennessee has "passed" us is astonishing. Only a leader can be passed.
The SEC was established 90 years ago in Knoxville. The Vols are not our dad: they are our grandfather.
General Neyland was busy winning championships while we were d***ing around in the Southern Conference. His stadium is internationally known.
I won't even mention the Fulmer years or some of the whippings when we were favored in recent times.
I used to be as big a fan as any. But there are no words for the arrogance we have always had as fans when it comes to our place in the hierarchy of football.
Trying to equate South Carolina with Tennessee should never even be attempted by a reasonable person.
I was pulling for Bama hard because at least with Bama and UGA - they handle their success with class.
A successful UcheaT program fan base is insufferable. Essentially Clemson's cousins.
A successful UcheaT program fan base is insufferable. Essentially Clemson's cousins.
Their QB is really good. Athletic. Any play could be explosive as a result.
Their LB's are big and fast- Something we miss. DT's are good too.
Their LB's are big and fast- Something we miss. DT's are good too.
UT had help from the REF's. Such as the "No Call" on Targeting on BAMA's QB. Not to mention, the amazing total yards in penalties called on BAMA 16 total penalties, the most for a team in the Saban era.
I live in the Atlanta area, and no they do not, not by any measure.
I agree with the notion that they have a history that far outpaces ours, but the last decade had them wallowing mediocrity. Heck, recruits today might not even know who Fulmer is.
But whether it be "passed us" or more accurately (imo) "just left us in the dust", they have have gone from our level to national title contender in very short order.
They are very good on offense but defensively they gave up 49 points! Don't think we could keep up. Our hope will be giving Rattler time to throw the ball or holding the ball for significant time with Lloyd on the run.
This is a special case. What happened yesterday was unfortunate for us, and that's putting it mildly. You do realize that Tennessee recruits the Carolinas hard, don't you? And right now - today - they have the most scintillating offense they have ever had.
Don't mean to sound like I'm correcting you but - They showed a graphic on screen saying Bama had 16 penalties and that *TIED* the school record - ever - ..... then they *definitely* got another one after that graphic so the actual total was 17+ penalties and that broke the all time school record, Saban or not. (I could be wrong but that's what I saw. If I'm wrong the TV was wrong)
Huh. (Genuinely curious - not being a jerk) - But are they over all better than UT fans?? That was kinda my point. I would imagine they are better but can't say for sure.
We face the prospect of having an in-state national power and 2 national powers in our division.
It's early, but UT appears to have struck gold with Heupel. Can he maintain it? Who knows? But, in essentially the same number of games as Beamer has had, Heupel has transformed UT from a 3-win team into a top 3 team and legitimate playoff contender, complete with the most dynamic offense in college football and arguably the most dynamic player who is also a strong Heisman contender. Meanwhile, we're still trying to figure who we are on offense. Heupel is doing the best thing you can do for recruiting. Guys are going to line up to play in that offense. I think Beamer does well with recruiting and is smart to make relationships the key factor, but you just can't compete with an offense that averages 48 ppg and 550 ypg.
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I know just a handful of UT fans, so I'm not going to make a comparison of one over the other.
But what I can speak to with confidence, is that UGA fans do not handle any success with class as you suggested.
This.
The Dabo comparison is basically cliche at this point for Beamer. But if he wanted to try and mirror that path, he goes after an aggressive offense. That alone attracts players. It's a double edged sword, meaning it can blow up in your face, so the trick is finding a somewhat competent OC to run it.
Your point is well taken, but the no-call was egregious. If it was not targeting, it was definitely roughing the passer, either of which would have extended a red zone possession. Later in the evening, I saw the same scenario play out in another game. Targeting was overruled but roughing the passer was called. It should have been so in the UT/Bama game as well.
It was an attempt to take Young out of the game. Penalty was definitely warranted.
It was interesting to me on the targeting non-call. In most every game I see, the approach seems to be "flag any questionable hit for review" to the point that's it's annoying and disrupts the flow of the game. The hit on Young was egregious. He lowered his helmet and hit him with the crown of his helmet in his head. It is the textbook targeting hit.
Here, a split second before the hit, the defender's head is up:
Here, at the moment of impact, the crown of the helmet is down and making contact at full speed with Young's head:
It's just puzzling that for all the borderline hits where a flag is thrown, the refs didn't flinch on this one. It's a bad look for the officials, particularly after all the heat the NFL just took for bungling the Tua situation.
Here, a split second before the hit, the defender's head is up:
Here, at the moment of impact, the crown of the helmet is down and making contact at full speed with Young's head:
It's just puzzling that for all the borderline hits where a flag is thrown, the refs didn't flinch on this one. It's a bad look for the officials, particularly after all the heat the NFL just took for bungling the Tua situation.
If safety and protecting QB's is the focus, officials in the booth should be reviewing and flagging hits like this. I'm surprised Young was not injured.
How any true Gamecock fan can pull for any team in our division is a head scratcher. UT trending upward hurts usā¦period. I have two kids that graduated from there and an in-law that coaches there. I pull for them to lose cause I want every advantage for us. I fake wanting them to win for the sake of family
Whatās funny is they can review a non called targeting and buzz down to have it reviewed and called if needed. I thought the UT no call on Young was roughing which is not reviewable. I didnāt notice helmet to helmet but now want to look at it again. Interesting
It would definitely cast doubt on Heupel being a great coach.
Launching with contact above the shoulders is what I've heard described as targeting. Doesn't have to be helmet to helmet.
It was classic Tennessee. Fulmer must have addressed the team Friday night.
All SEC schools have fanatics, but UT has overly passionate fans at times. Parading on campus to protest a coaching hire or as you saw Saturday they can harness that passion into positive energy when they see a good product on the field.
Fulmer has been neatly tucked away after his horrid AD tenure. His name is pretty much mud at this point.
Nonetheless, the residual vestiges have not been outdistanced.
Near riot when Kiffen bolted for SoCal.
Rocky Top "rowdies"!
No doubt. There are embarrassing moments but in Tennessee (and most SEC programs) football is a religion.Near riot when Kiffen bolted for SoCal.