Talk about rapid reaction. Oregon's 12-man penalty loophole was quickly closed by the NCAA and yet the ''fake injury'' loophole lingers untouched.
Too hot to handle?
Too hot to handle?
Definitely a lot more complicated than the 12 man loophole.Talk about rapid reaction. Oregon's 12-man penalty loophole was quickly closed by the NCAA and yet the ''fake injury'' loophole lingers untouched.
Too hot to handle?
Definitely a lot more complicated than the 12 man loophole.
If you require a player to sit out the rest of a series after an injury stoppage, that likely pushes the pendulum too far the other direction. You'll have players try to fight through something they shouldn't.
Perhaps there could be a delay of game penalty or the like for players who clearly are falling down to slow things down. I saw the clip of Jaxson Dart waving at the running back, who then randomly falls down. That seems like a clear delay of game.
There's probably no way to fix it without some legitimate injuries getting penalized.
I agree it's more difficult, but both are intentional and now one will stop and the other will continue.Definitely a lot more complicated than the 12 man loophole.
If you require a player to sit out the rest of a series after an injury stoppage, that likely pushes the pendulum too far the other direction. You'll have players try to fight through something they shouldn't.
Perhaps there could be a delay of game penalty or the like for players who clearly are falling down to slow things down. I saw the clip of Jaxson Dart waving at the running back, who then randomly falls down. That seems like a clear delay of game.
That's already the rule. If a player comes out for an injury, he has to sit for a play at least.This.
I think of it like that famous quote about our justice system. I would rather 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man get punished.
I would err on the side of allowing the fake injuries, rather than penalize legitimate injuries.
I like the notion of treating like the helmet coming off. Obviously the guy has to sit out a play. What if we made it 2?
Then I think the only way to discourage it has to be a hit to recruiting somehow because these coaches make too much $$ to care about fines. I know you didn't mention fines but I think the best way to target the coach directly is for the penalty to occur in game.The coach has to be condoning or going along with the ''fake injury'' model or otherwise he would not allow it.
I'm beginning to think targeting the coach is the way to stop it.
I agree with this portion of your post completely. Take that out of consideration. As to the remedy, That's going to take some high-level crafting....I don't buy the argument that it would make some players "play through the injury" and thus potentially making the injury worse. They already do that because normally they don't want to come out anyway. That part has been going on forever.
Game or recruiting suspensions may be the answerThen I think the only way to discourage it has to be a hit to recruiting somehow because these coaches make too much $$ to care about fines. I know you didn't mention fines but I think the best way to target the coach directly is for the penalty to occur in game.
Just make it - if the ref has to stop the game - it's delay of game. Offense or defense. 5 yard penalty. Period.
I don't buy the argument that it would make some players "play through the injury" and thus potentially making the injury worse. They already do that because normally they don't want to come out anyway. That part has been going on forever.
Game or recruiting suspensions may be the answer
I understand the reluctance to put anything medical in the hands of officials but it's just sad that a team who can't compete at the pace of the other team has to resort to these shady tactics to be competitive and a coach is all for it and doesn't put a stop to it.Rece Davis offered some perspective on the complexities:
“Everybody wants the officials to do something. Look, man, I’m not convinced these cats can figure out targeting. They can’t figure out how many men are on the field sometimes. They sure can’t figure out pass interference. Now I’m going to make them a trainer? Now I’m going to make them a medical professional? I understand guys sometimes are taking flops. That’s for sure. I know what it looks like. How about the one time when the guy cramps up? Heaven forbid, how about the one time a guy has a seizure? How about the one time that the guy that you think took a flop has asthma and he has some type of attack and needs his medication? You’re going to put that in the hands of the officials?”
Rece Davis offered some perspective on the complexities:
“Everybody wants the officials to do something. Look, man, I’m not convinced these cats can figure out targeting. They can’t figure out how many men are on the field sometimes. They sure can’t figure out pass interference. Now I’m going to make them a trainer? Now I’m going to make them a medical professional? I understand guys sometimes are taking flops. That’s for sure. I know what it looks like. How about the one time when the guy cramps up? Heaven forbid, how about the one time a guy has a seizure? How about the one time that the guy that you think took a flop has asthma and he has some type of attack and needs his medication? You’re going to put that in the hands of the officials?”