The epitome of a guy that looks and talks a good game, and changes jobs before people figure out he is a bull sh!tter. Had a brother in law like that once.
What Coley's departure illustrates
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Ehhhhh, I wouldn't use a coach that we held onto for 6 weeks as an example of getting a coach that other schools want.
I agree. If we didn't have a position open he'd still be a GSU. We found a successful coach that wants to be here.
Dayuuummm!!!
VanGorder must have used a Brinks truck as a dual purpose moving van! Move to a new gig, off-load furniture, load up money, off-load money into bank ... re-load furniture, move to knew gig. Repeat.
In 41 years, his longest stay is five years -- and that only occurred ONCE!
Well someone did cause he left. I really don’t think that much about anyone’s actions these days. Par for the course. Bama had two coaches pull this exact stunt.
He was RB coach at UGA? What does that have to do with Georgia replacing their wide receiver coach?
No. Incorrect. I said I did not see any connection between us taking Elliott and Georgia taking Coley.
Go back and read the first sentence your thread - #36. I simply answered your question.
That statement was obviously made in the context of the ongoing discussion related to Coley's departure, as supported by the rest of the post to which you are referring.
Context is always so very important.
Ok. So long as you are conceding that you disregard context, rendering your response irrelevant to the discussion. Carry on!
Josh Crawford (former GT WR coach) was considered to be the leading candidate to replace McClendon. When McGee left, it presented an opportunity for KMart to hire McGee as RB coach (he played RB in college), AND Coley at WR.
McGee is likely still at UGA if Elliott didn't leave GSU, and UGA would have likely hired Crawford as their WR coach.
Josh Crawford (former GT WR coach) was considered to be the leading candidate to replace McClendon. When McGee left, it presented an opportunity for KMart to hire McGee as RB coach (he played RB in college), AND Coley at WR.
McGee is likely still at UGA if Elliott didn't leave GSU, and UGA would have likely hired Crawford as their WR coach.
Ehhh, I don't believe you follow UGA sports that closely, lol.
I don't really buy into the "wants to be here" thing very much. I don't think many college coaches really want to be at a certain school. Kirby probably wants to be at Georgia. He played there, he and his wife are both alumni, his entire family and his wife's entire family live in Georgia and are long time Georgia fans. From the story I heard, he basically kicked the USC people out of his house when UGA called. He was about to agree to come to USC but as Bear Bryant said "Momma called". Harbaugh wanted to be at Michigan but his ego and psycho personality couldn't resist the NFL. I think Gundy really loves being at OK State, where he went to school.
I think coaches want to be where they can make the most money and have the best opportunity for advancement. I think most of them enjoy their time at schools but the job is pretty much the same anywhere they go. Being a WR coach at USC or at Indiana is pretty much the same job on a day to day basis. One program might have more resources but the job is basically the same. No coach is ever going to say "Well, I really didn't want to come to _________________ but the pay was good and I think it will be a good stepping stone to a better job". They all say how happy they are to be at the school where they are.
I think coaches want to be where they can make the most money and have the best opportunity for advancement. I think most of them enjoy their time at schools but the job is pretty much the same anywhere they go. Being a WR coach at USC or at Indiana is pretty much the same job on a day to day basis. One program might have more resources but the job is basically the same. No coach is ever going to say "Well, I really didn't want to come to _________________ but the pay was good and I think it will be a good stepping stone to a better job". They all say how happy they are to be at the school where they are.
Geez. I wonder how many moving vans and suitcases this guy wore out. Job Hopper is not a strong enough descripter for him but I can't think of a better one offhand can you???
Agree. They generally want to be wherever is paying them the most money. I think there are instances where you have a situation like Dabo or Beamer, where a program went out on a limb to hire them as a HC so they feel more of a connection there, and are less likely to leave.
If it weren't for Georgia there's a very good chance Kirby Smart would be our coach. We took a hit on that one but so did Mark Richt.
We would have had Kirby for a year. UGA would have canned Richt shortly anyway, as they were declining. Of course, maybe that means WM could have went somewhere else and we would have dodged that landmine.
I think he IS a proven cheerleader.
Someone laughed at my previous mention of Mark Richt. I thought he was an excellent coach. He was a better coach at FSU than Brad Scott. We got Brad Scott. I thought he was a better coach than an already failed Muschamp. We got Muschamp. When Georgia cleared the way to hire Smart then Richt became available. And there was absolutely no interest on our part.
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This is one of those situations where a bad decision gets corrected without the one responsible for making it having to lift a finger. Furrey will turn out to be a gem of coach on this staff. Beamer was blessed.
It is possible to improve even when things don’t go to plan. Mike Furrey will succeed here. We’re so much better off right now than we were 2 months ago. It was a little messy getting here, but we got better this offseason.
Cooley's heart was obviously not in it from the start. Better that potential poison is gone before it gets in the system.
People will not look at Smart. People will, instead, look at what Kiffin, Heupel and Drinkwitz have done in short periods of times and ask why not us? 2024 is an important year for Beamer's career.
The Furrey hire supports the point in the OP. Looks like a solid pickup, but not a coach we should be worried about anyone taking from us.
Richt had already taken the Miami job. He threw the UF game that season to make sure he would be fired so he could take the Miami job. If he had won the UF game UGA would have won the East and he knew there was no way he would be fired.
Richt didn't have the drive and focus to be a championship coach. He was soft. He was good but not great and he was a little bit lazy too. Look how fast Kirby turned UGA into a truly elite program. All of the pieces were already there, Richt didn't use them. Richt leveraged the "good man" thing to hook the UGA fans into overlooking his shortcomings as a coach. UGA, with all of their built in advantages, was always "almost great" under Richt. If he had come to USC he would have been a 7 or 8 win coach.