What do you get from James Franklin for $7.5 million?

[Tom_PSU]

If you've ever worked in a school district....you are familiar with a common gene. It's known as the "know it all gene." Some folks are born with it, others develop it over time. It's often exhibited by the school custodian. You know, the one with the 9th grade education. If you give him the opportunity, he will tell you what's wrong with the entire school district and what the BOE, Superintendent of Schools, Principals and teachers should do.
That gene is manifested here in abundance.
Fanboys gifted with this "special" gene can tell you who the best players are....hint....they are on the bench or left the team...
what the coach does wrong and what we should expect as "special" fans. LOL its a laugh a minute. Don't know what I'd do for laughs if these fanboys ever returned to the real world.
What should frighten us is that these people are permitted out and about without supervision.

That’s your opinion. I’ll give you another prospective. While I never worked in Education ( hell I don’t believe I was ever involved with education while I was getting an Education). My father was a high school principal, an asst superintendent and finally a superintendent of schools. Many a night while sitting around the house he conveyed to me that Felix, the head janitor, had better ideas than him and BOE on how the whole damn system should run. So don’t denigrate people with a ninth grade education.

 

[TheBigUglies]

I don't give a rats arse how much he is getting paid. Let PSU worry about that. I think 10-2 is a successful season. It is pretty common that we lost to OSU and scUM even before Franklin became the head coach. PSU seemed to have always been a Top 10 program by and we are back there again. Its going to take a special group of players(like 1994) to get over the hump of competing for a Nat Champ. Sit back, relax, have a beer(or your favorite drink) and enjoy the ride!!

 

[psuro]

Actually you are the one that brought up elite or substained elete. Your quote


psuro said:
Penn State has never maintained elite status. Short bursts of really high level, yes (late 1960s, early to mid 1980s). But it's never been sustained.

See the part where it says ‘Ro said

Ok.

 

[Midnighter]

It’s all funny money anymore. Matt Rhule has done zero at Nebraska and makes more. My biggest issue with Franklin outside of some boneheaded playcalling was his contract, and now guys who’ve done nothing are being paid like money grows on trees. I have zero doubt Franklin will get another raise and extension within two years. Just doesn’t matter anymore.

 

[Tom_PSU]

It’s all funny money anymore. Matt Rhule has done zero at Nebraska and makes more. My biggest issue with Franklin outside of some boneheaded playcalling was his contract, and now guys who’ve done nothing are being paid like money grows on trees. I have zero doubt Franklin will get another raise and extension within two years. Just doesn’t matter anymore.

Don’t doubt it, but here’s a potential new poll for you. At that time grace us with all the lovely coeds of his various suspected suitors (real or imagined) and let us decide what job he should take.

 

[Nits1989]

Look, I wish the team looked more prepared for Michigan, but its college football and stuff happens. But they finished with 10 wins. That is a good season. They got into a great bowl game. Recruiting is going well. They have great running backs and a 5 star QB for next year. Olu is returning. The O line is getting better. I don't mean to disrespect any players by not mentioning them because the team has lots of great players. Also, the team could get some nice portal additions like they have in the past. They're putting a decent number of players into the NFL. Lots of reasons to feel good and be positive.

 

[JVP_Yahweh]

He is arguably the best out there doing it the right way. Who else is close when you factor that in? I'll take 11-2 every year as long as it's done the right way, no bull shiitake, no fake grades and classes and no boosters running the program.

 

[Midnighter]

He is arguably the best out there doing it the right way. Who else is close when you factor that in? I'll take 11-2 every year as long as it's done the right way, no bull shiitake, no fake grades and classes and no boosters running the program.

All the school stuff is less and less important when there is this much money at play (for everyone). They will eventually be employees and likely won’t have to carry much of, if any, course load. Been over the ‘doing it the right way’ for a while.

 

[psuro]

Another "I hate Franklin" thread. How uninteresting.

And unoriginal.....

 

[Charlie1978]

Penn State has never maintained elite status. Short bursts of really high level, yes (late 1960s, early to mid 1980s). But it's never been sustained.

Shocking comments from the legend that is PSURO. Penn State embodied elite from the 1968-1994 easily regardless of what the media says. By all measures. Unrewarded national championships, the sense among opponents that their season was made by beating PSU, number of active pros during that time, the graduation rates, the bowl winning percentage...not even close through those years. after 1994 it was a decline to where we are now.

 

[marshall23]

That’s your opinion. I’ll give you another prospective. While I never worked in Education ( hell I don’t believe I was ever involved with education while I was getting an Education). My father was a high school principal, an asst superintendent and finally a superintendent of schools. Many a night while sitting around the house he conveyed to me that Felix, the head janitor, had better ideas than him and BOE on how the whole damn system should run. So don’t denigrate people with a ninth grade education.

In addition to knowing more about education than your Dad, how was Felix at buffing floors?

 

[PSU12046]

Shocking comments from the legend that is PSURO. Penn State embodied elite from the 1968-1994 easily regardless of what the media says. By all measures. Unrewarded national championships, the sense among opponents that their season was made by beating PSU, number of active pros during that time, the graduation rates, the bowl winning percentage...not even close through those years. after 1994 it was a decline to where we are now.

 

[Tom_PSU]

In addition to knowing more about education than your Dad, how was Felix at buffing floors?

I would think it’s safe to say that my father and knew more about most things than you. Say what you want about me, but don’t insult my father. He’s no longer around to defend himself, but I guess that’s what a cheap shot artist finds appealing.

 

[Moogy]

If you've ever worked in a school district....you are familiar with a common gene. It's known as the "know it all gene." Some folks are born with it, others develop it over time. It's often exhibited by the school custodian. You know, the one with the 9th grade education. If you give him the opportunity, he will tell you what's wrong with the entire school district and what the BOE, Superintendent of Schools, Principals and teachers should do.
That gene is manifested here in abundance.
Fanboys gifted with this "special" gene can tell you who the best players are....hint....they are on the bench or left the team...
what the coach does wrong and what we should expect as "special" fans. LOL its a laugh a minute. Don't know what I'd do for laughs if these fanboys ever returned to the real world.
What should frighten us is that these people are permitted out and about without supervision.

So, don't question the coach, because the coach knows it all.

Know-it-alls are dumb.

Therefore, coaches are dumb.

#marshalllogic

 

[Connorpozlee]

If you've ever worked in a school district....you are familiar with a common gene. It's known as the "know it all gene." Some folks are born with it, others develop it over time. It's often exhibited by the school custodian. You know, the one with the 9th grade education. If you give him the opportunity, he will tell you what's wrong with the entire school district and what the BOE, Superintendent of Schools, Principals and teachers should do.
That gene is manifested here in abundance.
Fanboys gifted with this "special" gene can tell you who the best players are....hint....they are on the bench or left the team...
what the coach does wrong and what we should expect as "special" fans. LOL its a laugh a minute. Don't know what I'd do for laughs if these fanboys ever returned to the real world.
What should frighten us is that these people are permitted out and about without supervision.

The custodian at my current school has been there for 37 years and is one of the first voices of reason I look for about issues involving the school. Catch phrase of the day? Nope, not him. Common sense and a real knowledge of how the world runs? Absolutely.
Taking a cheap shot at school custodians seems unnecessary and is quite frankly, a statement I thought would be beneath you as a former school administrator.

 

[Colt2169]

Coach Franklin is one of the highest, if not the highest, paid coaches in the B1G. $7 million guaranteed and $500,000 bonus retention in 2022.

So it is fair to ask if Penn State is getting what it is paying for since hiring him in 2014? You be the judge.

#1. 10 win season this year.

The good: Good enough to be competitive in the current NCAA rankings, and would likely qualify the team for a spot in the new playoff structure.

Perspective: 14 teams have ten wins so far this year, with 5 more going for their tenth win in a bowl game. 8 teams have more than 10 wins. Three of the wins were against out of conference teams with a cumulative record of 18-19.

#2. Franklin has a 77-36 record in his nine years at Penn State. That is a 68% winning percentage.

#3. Franklin has a 49-30 B1G conference record. That is a 62% winning percentage. His out of conference record is 28-6, for a 82% winning percentage.

The good: He has won more than half his games in conference.

Perspective: His overall record has been greatly improved by his out of conference record, with those games primarily played against non power five opponents.

#4. Franklin has a very poor record against top ten teams played since he began coaching at Penn State. His record against top ten teams is 2-15 as the Penn State Coach. His record at Vanderbilt was 0-2.

Perspective: Brett Bielema 5-18, Greg Schiano 2-9, PJ Fleck 1-6, Jim Harbaugh 8-14, Kirk Ferentz 12-24, Jeff Brohm 3-6, all have better records against top ten teams.

#5. Franklin has a 1-8 record vs. tOSU, 3-6 vs. Michigan, and 4-5 vs. Michigan State.

Well obviously we get a great guy !

 

[Indian rocks rich]

Not so crazy I use multiple profiles like you do.

Funny you can’t bear with having the facts posted.

Easy fix find another team to root for. PLEASE!!!!

 

[Moogy]

Coach Franklin is one of the highest, if not the highest, paid coaches in the B1G. $7 million guaranteed and $500,000 bonus retention in 2022.

So it is fair to ask if Penn State is getting what it is paying for since hiring him in 2014? You be the judge.

#1. 10 win season this year.

The good: Good enough to be competitive in the current NCAA rankings, and would likely qualify the team for a spot in the new playoff structure.

Perspective: 14 teams have ten wins so far this year, with 5 more going for their tenth win in a bowl game. 8 teams have more than 10 wins. Three of the wins were against out of conference teams with a cumulative record of 18-19.

#2. Franklin has a 77-36 record in his nine years at Penn State. That is a 68% winning percentage.

#3. Franklin has a 49-30 B1G conference record. That is a 62% winning percentage. His out of conference record is 28-6, for a 82% winning percentage.

The good: He has won more than half his games in conference.

Perspective: His overall record has been greatly improved by his out of conference record, with those games primarily played against non power five opponents.

#4. Franklin has a very poor record against top ten teams played since he began coaching at Penn State. His record against top ten teams is 2-15 as the Penn State Coach. His record at Vanderbilt was 0-2.

Perspective: Brett Bielema 5-18, Greg Schiano 2-9, PJ Fleck 1-6, Jim Harbaugh 8-14, Kirk Ferentz 12-24, Jeff Brohm 3-6, all have better records against top ten teams.

#5. Franklin has a 1-8 record vs. tOSU, 3-6 vs. Michigan, and 4-5 vs. Michigan State.

I remember when you were on here during the early portion of the Rutgers game talking about how great their coach was, and how crappy ours was.

And then you disappeared back under your bridge with all the other anti-Franklin trolls.

Those were good times. Just pretend like all times are like the 2nd half of the Rutgers game.

 

[marshall23]

I would think it’s safe to say that my father and knew more about most things than you. Say what you want about me, but don’t insult my father. He’s no longer around to defend himself, but I guess that’s what a cheap shot artist finds appealing.

You were the one who said Felix had better ideas on education than your Dad......have you been drinking?
I didn't bring your father into the conversation. Pound salt.

 

[marshall23]

The custodian at my current school has been there for 37 years and is one of the first voices of reason I look for about issues involving the school. Catch phrase of the day? Nope, not him. Common sense and a real knowledge of how the world runs? Absolutely.
Taking a cheap shot at school custodians seems unnecessary and is quite frankly, a statement I thought would be beneath you as a former school administrator.

You missed the point as usual.

 

[marshall23]

So, don't question the coach, because the coach knows it all.

Know-it-alls are dumb.

Therefore, coaches are dumb.

#marshalllogic

No it makes perfect sense that custodians are qualified to replace school superintendents and that fanboys are more qualified to run division one football programs than current coaching hires. Only on BWI.

 

[marshall23]

So, don't question the coach, because the coach knows it all.

Know-it-alls are dumb.

Therefore, coaches are dumb.

#marshalllogic

The coach doesn't "know it all." Just a hell of a lot more than you.

 

[Moogy]

The coach doesn't "know it all." Just a hell of a lot more than you.

And this is how you became a glorified gym teacher. Or maybe it was history (only a slight step up).

 

[marshall23]

And this is how you became a glorified gym teacher. Or maybe it was history (only a slight step up).

Not a glorified anything, just not a "Moogy." LOL

 

[Moogy]

You missed the point as usual.

Maybe you're just really bad at making points, which is why you stick to just hurling insults, with no substance, at anyone who questions a coach ... and can't provide any actual insight into anything football related.

 

[marshall23]

Maybe you're just really bad at making points, which is why you stick to just hurling insults, with no substance, at anyone who questions a coach ... and can't provide any actual insight into anything football related.

Coaches can never properly evaluate talent, That's why they need you. Experience in coaching is irrelevant, that's why coaches need you. Practices are of no value, that's why they need to put players into games, so fans like you can see them and properly evaluate them, revert to #1.

 

[Connorpozlee]

You missed the point as usual.

I think I got your point. Manual laborers are ignorant fools who can’t get past 9th grade. Well done.

 

[marshall23]

I think I got your point. Manual laborers are ignorant fools who can’t get past 9th grade. Well done.

Yep, you got it.

 

[Nitt1300]

 

[Moogy]

Coaches can never properly evaluate talent, That's why they need you. Experience in coaching is irrelevant, that's why coaches need you. Practices are of no value, that's why they need to put players into games, so fans like you can see them and properly evaluate them, revert to #1.

Maybe you're just really bad at making points, which is why you stick to just hurling insults, with no substance, at anyone who questions a coach ... and can't provide any actual insight into anything football related.

 

[Midnighter]

Shocking comments from the legend that is PSURO. Penn State embodied elite from the 1968-1994 easily regardless of what the media says. By all measures. Unrewarded national championships, the sense among opponents that their season was made by beating PSU, number of active pros during that time, the graduation rates, the bowl winning percentage...not even close through those years. after 1994 it was a decline to where we are now.

 

[marshall23]

Maybe you're just really bad at making points, which is why you stick to just hurling insults, with no substance, at anyone who questions a coach ... and can't provide any actual insight into anything football related.

Moogy

 

[Moogy]

Shocking comments from the legend that is PSURO. Penn State embodied elite from the 1968-1994 easily regardless of what the media says. By all measures. Unrewarded national championships, the sense among opponents that their season was made by beating PSU, number of active pros during that time, the graduation rates, the bowl winning percentage...not even close through those years. after 1994 it was a decline to where we are now.

PSU was pretty much poo from 1987-1993, if we're judging them by the same standard we're judging modern day PSU/Franklin. 1994 was the fluke year that let the JoePa worshippers breathe easier, as there was already talk the game had passed him by before that year.

 

[PSUQbKeeper]

well all I can say is that I was a janitor for a long long time and I'm smarter than most of you numbnuts in here

 

[Got GSPs]

ones value is based upon what someone else is willing to pay you. It’s not based upon wins or anything else. My employer pays me enough so that I don’t look for another job. Penn State paid Franklin enough so that they were comfortable in his staying. They were motivated to do so because the administration has seen the good things Franklin has done, and the interest from other programs (maybe inflated by his agent), and valued him over the pool of possible replacements.

 

[FTLPSU]

Man…..reading this….sigh…guy makes a post with some data and crucified…without his post you all don’t have any easy softball posts to make….

Amazing to think you all root for the same team and are fellow alumni.

Going to bed early…will catch a Wahoo in the AM…just opinions all just opinions..none of this really matters….

 

[BW Lion]

The custodian at my current school has been there for 37 years

Are you Billy Madison?

 

[Nits1989]

Penn State has never maintained elite status. Short bursts of really high level, yes (late 1960s, early to mid 1980s). But it's never been sustained.

Respectfully disagree. Sustained elite from late 60s to mid 80s.

 

[BW Lion]

Is there anything better than BWI Board Bickering ?

I find these exchanges entertaining.

 

[PSU87]

Man…..reading this….sigh…guy makes a post with some data and crucified…without his post you all don’t have any easy softball posts to make….

Amazing to think you all root for the same team and are fellow alumni.

Going to bed early…will catch a Wahoo in the AM…just opinions all just opinions..none of this really matters….

You're more dedicated than I. My son and I were thinking of going out tomorrow but I'm seeing 5-7' up here.

Good luck. If you get a wahoo I want pics.