What is there to like about Coach Franklin?

marshall23

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I've done the research - Joe's numbers aren't that good (especially his last nine years) using that same criteria. What he did do better was: win B1G Championships (2 to 1, noting ties were allowed then and are not now). He had two losing seasons during that nine year stretch (which goes to show how bad PSU was - we didn't have anywhere near a 2003 or 2004 season under O'Brien or Franklin despite sanctions). Franklin has more 11 win seasons (four to Joe's three) and has not had a losing season. Where it gets interesting is recruiting acumen and salary - Joe's classes over that time period averaged mid-30's nationally; Franklin is about mid-teen's (15 or so). Joe made an average salary (at the time, his highest annual salary was just over $1mm/year while the highest paid coach was Nick Saban at about $3mm/year), and CFJ is one of the highest paid coaches in the B1G. Joe also did not play OSU and Michigan every year like Franklin has to do. I think it's mostly a 'wash', noting Franklin recruits a lot better than Joe did towards the end of his career but the results are pretty close overall. This year could be a big, big year for the program - OSU doesn't look invincible (on paper) and you never know about Michigan. If we take care of the games we should win (as in, are favored in) could be B1G Championship and CFP bound.

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The rub always is that you still need to play the games. Being favored means nothing to the teams competing. Did a wild card team ever win the world series? How could that happen? I mean the #1 seed over 162 games got beat by the 2nd best team in a division.....LOL
6 wild card teams have won the super bowl....fire everyone.
Upsets are going to happen and they are only defined as such by fans and oddsmakers.
Every single week there are several "upsets." Assuming PSU is going to beat every team they are favored to is a recipe for disappointment.
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The kid has spunk.

So thinking about who we would get that is an elite coach is there really more than a few elite coaches in the country at this point? Saban , Smart, Sweeney are about it. All the other coaches around the nation are still proving themselves like Franklin. I think Franklin is the right coach for Penn State at this point in time. He is brining in recruits, the team is improving. Sure there are going to be some hiccups along the way but he seems to be working on fixing them. The asst coaching carousel and NIL are challenging for any coach to navigate. Lets see how he handles the change at QB and a more solid running game and the 2nd year with Manny Diaz schemes.
 

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My goodness - stuck on an island with those two??? Yes plz.

Oh - I forgot to add this to my previous list of shining adulation for Franklin:

He has been an excellent 'developer' of talent (in that, players - at all levels - from his teams have done very, very well in the NFL and are very well prepared when they leave the program).

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After 5 years perhaps it's time to let go of a post game comment? I'm sure you can manufacture another reason to kick Franklin.
Nahhhh, he should say fans expect too much. The fake outrage over those comments is some made up BS to justify the fake outrage....IMO. A coach talking about getting better triggers people.....you cannot even make this BS up. I hope Rhoades didn't talk about making PSU b-ball better or setting high expectations....the nerve. Time management...sure, gameplans...don't always work...so sure there is room there to voice some dissent when things don't work. That happens on every site everywhere when things go wrong. A coach getting paid what the market dictates and setting high expectations is a problem....really....just fake outage message board BS.
 
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The rub always is that you still need to play the games. Being favored means nothing to the teams competing. Did a wild card team ever win the world series? How could that happen? I mean the #1 seed over 162 games got beat by the 2nd best team in a division.....LOL
6 wild card teams have won the super bowl....fire everyone.
Upsets are going to happen and they are only defined as such by fans and oddsmakers.
Every single week there are several "upsets." Assuming PSU is going to beat every team they are favored to is a recipe for disappointment.

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the unfortunate truth is, because he didnt play at Wisky on the OL doesnt mean he wouldnt play at PSU on the OL. I'd take my chances. fact.
 
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Nahhhh, he should say fans expect too much. The fake outrage over those comments is some made up BS to justify the fake outrage....IMO. A coach talking about getting better triggers people.....you cannot even make this BS up. I hope Rhoades didn't talk about making PSU b-ball better or setting high expectations....the nerve. Time management...sure, gameplans...don't always work...so sure there is room there to voice some dissent when things don't work. That happens on every site everywhere when things go wrong. A coach getting paid what the market dictates and setting high expectations is a problem....really....just fake outage message board BS.
You mistake outrage for indifference.