What Needs to Happen?

[Spinal Tap]

To get some normalcy or uniformity or control measures back with our college sports. Everyone everywhere is experiencing the same problems with NIL. portal, etc. on one level or another. Add the charges of tampering to the mix as well. Or anything I haven't mentioned.

We keep putting our opinions in different threads. In fact, there's more added to the bucket of opinions daily. They have validity (mostly). But how do you reduce the insanity unless there's some discussion and decisions above each school level that impacts everyone of them?

Where I'm going is the thought of an across the lines summit of the major stake holders in the world of collegiate sports. I'll mention CFB particularly because of what it means to so many fans. NCAA would have to be involved no matter what we think about them. Still the "governing" body. Legal input because NIL has it's basis
from legal opinion. A selective group of college Presidents along with a group of AD's. and whoever makes sense to be part of solving the problems that are occurring.
All the daily news on the subject is making me weary. There has to be some action for corrections to happen. It can't be done by individual schools. The schools and coaches have been put in a purely reactive mode because that's all there is with the new age of college sports.

Sorry I couldn't be more brief. I'm not trying rant. I'd like to hear your thoughts. And, a special shout out to @Rogue Cock for his comments regarding NIL.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Everyone always uses coaches coming and going to support players having the right to transfer, so I say put players on equal footing: if their head coach or position coach leaves, they can transfer with immediate eligibility. Otherwise, you sit a year. If they follow their former coach, then they sit (to prevent a coach from gutting a program on the way out).

 

[Rogue Cock]

To get some normalcy or uniformity or control measures back with our college sports. Everyone everywhere is experiencing the same problems with NIL. portal, etc. on one level or another. Add the charges of tampering to the mix as well. Or anything I haven't mentioned.

We keep putting our opinions in different threads. In fact, there's more added to the bucket of opinions daily. They have validity (mostly). But how do you reduce the insanity unless there's some discussion and decisions above each school level that impacts everyone of them?

Where I'm going is the thought of an across the lines summit of the major stake holders in the world of collegiate sports. I'll mention CFB particularly because of what it means to so many fans. NCAA would have to be involved no matter what we think about them. Still the "governing" body. Legal input because NIL has it's basis
from legal opinion. A selective group of college Presidents along with a group of AD's. and whoever makes sense to be part of solving the problems that are occurring.
All the daily news on the subject is making me weary. There has to be some action for corrections to happen. It can't be done by individual schools. The schools and coaches have been put in a purely reactive mode because that's all there is with the new age of college sports.

Sorry I couldn't be more brief. I'm not trying rant. I'd like to hear your thoughts. And, a special shout out to @Rogue Cock for his comments regarding NIL.

Regarding the NIL alone....the Supreme Court pretty much tied the hands of any oversight by anyone. The NCAA was specifically told that it had no authority regarding NILs. Since the Universities and their athletic programs are members of the NCAA....they appear to be included in that ban. NIL agreements are solely between the student-athlete and the business/organization that is purchasing the use of their name, image, or likeness....which also cuts out any protections that the school/NCAA could offer the student-athlete in the negotiations.

Transfers are well within the NCAA purview....but the larger schools wanted a more open transfer policy. And the NCAA capitulated. We started with immediate graduate transfers, then went to hardship transfers with immediate playing time but that evidently wasn't good enough....so the NCAA opened it up saying every athlete can transfer one time without penalty.

The one time free transfer with the NIL has made it like several posters have stated unrestricted free agency with tampering (almost assuredly). At this point how do you put the Genie back into the bottle?

 

[Spinal Tap]

Everyone always uses coaches coming and going to support players having the right to transfer, so I say put players on equal footing: if their head coach or position coach leaves, they can transfer with immediate eligibility. Otherwise, you sit a year. If they follow their former coach, then they sit (to prevent a coach from gutting a program on the way out).

Makes sense to me. A policy allowing a transfer because of those conditions. And equitable if everyone has to adhere to that policy.
So, the balls in the NCAA court to enact and enforce?

 

[Spinal Tap]

Regarding the NIL alone....the Supreme Court pretty much tied the hands of any oversight by anyone. The NCAA was specifically told that it had no authority regarding NILs. Since the Universities and their athletic programs are members of the NCAA....they appear to be included in that ban. NIL agreements are solely between the student-athlete and the business/organization that is purchasing the use of their name, image, or likeness....which also cuts out any protections that the school/NCAA could offer the student-athlete in the negotiations.

Transfers are well within the NCAA purview....but the larger schools wanted a more open transfer policy. And the NCAA capitulated. We started with immediate graduate transfers, then went to hardship transfers with immediate playing time but that evidently wasn't good enough....so the NCAA opened it up saying every athlete can transfer one time without penalty.

The one time free transfer with the NIL has made it like several posters have stated unrestricted free agency with tampering (almost assuredly). At this point how do you put the Genie back into the bottle?

I don't how to get Genie back there.

Who is in charge or has oversight regarding the use of NIL as an inducement to recruiting?

 

[Rogue Cock]

I don't how to get Genie back there.

Who is in charge or has oversight regarding the use of NIL as an inducement to recruiting?

No one....as far as I know. The NCAA, universities and ADs were cut out, so I don't have much of any idea who could, especially if the student-athlete is of legal age to contract.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

I don't how to get Genie back there.

Who is in charge or has oversight regarding the use of NIL as an inducement to recruiting?

Regulate it. Don't ask me how...but that's what needs to happen.

 

[Spinal Tap]

No one....as far as I know. The NCAA, universities and ADs were cut out, so I don't have much of any idea who could, especially if the student-athlete is of legal age to contract.

Oh goody. Thanks.

 

[KingWard]

The NCAA could - and should - legislate that neither schools nor people representing themselves as agents of schools can fund or broker NIL deals. That would include outlawing collectives tied to any school. The NCAA could legislate that without violating court rulings regarding the NIL issue.

Players would retain the right to enter into NIL agreements that they seek out for themselves or those offered to them by businesses, institutions, or other entities. Players could still engage agents for the purpose of hooking them up with NIL deals.

This would not rescind NIL, but would regulate how it works. No player's rights would be impinged.

As for the Portal: one transfer without sitting and the portal opens after all games are finished.

 

[Spinal Tap]

The NCAA could - and should - legislate that neither schools nor people representing themselves as agents of schools can fund or broker NIL deals. That would include outlawing collectives tied to any school. The NCAA could legislate that without violating court rulings regarding the NIL issue.

Players would retain the right to enter into NIL agreements that they seek out for themselves or those offered to them by businesses, institutions, or other entities. Players could still engage agents for the purpose of hooking them up with NIL deals.

This would not rescind NIL, but would regulate how it works. No player's rights would be impinged.

As for the Portal: one transfer without sitting and the portal opens after all games are finished.

That would remove a lot confusion about legitimate means to get deals (who can assist the student/athlete or not). And they can freely deal
with the legitimate parties.

 

[WingchunCock]

Regarding the NIL alone....the Supreme Court pretty much tied the hands of any oversight by anyone. The NCAA was specifically told that it had no authority regarding NILs. Since the Universities and their athletic programs are members of the NCAA....they appear to be included in that ban. NIL agreements are solely between the student-athlete and the business/organization that is purchasing the use of their name, image, or likeness....which also cuts out any protections that the school/NCAA could offer the student-athlete in the negotiations.

Transfers are well within the NCAA purview....but the larger schools wanted a more open transfer policy. And the NCAA capitulated. We started with immediate graduate transfers, then went to hardship transfers with immediate playing time but that evidently wasn't good enough....so the NCAA opened it up saying every athlete can transfer one time without penalty.

The one time free transfer with the NIL has made it like several posters have stated unrestricted free agency with tampering (almost assuredly). At this point how do you put the Genie back into the bottle?

About the only thing that can be done is change the transfer periods. No transfers until after bowl season and you must play in bowl game, and two weeks at the beginning of summer. It should lessen the negative impact on the bowls and provide schools the opportunity to recruit replacements before Signing Day, and nail down rosters before fall practice begins.

 

[VidaliaGamecock]

To get some normalcy or uniformity or control measures back with our college sports. Everyone everywhere is experiencing the same problems with NIL. portal, etc. on one level or another. Add the charges of tampering to the mix as well. Or anything I haven't mentioned.

We keep putting our opinions in different threads. In fact, there's more added to the bucket of opinions daily. They have validity (mostly). But how do you reduce the insanity unless there's some discussion and decisions above each school level that impacts everyone of them?

Where I'm going is the thought of an across the lines summit of the major stake holders in the world of collegiate sports. I'll mention CFB particularly because of what it means to so many fans. NCAA would have to be involved no matter what we think about them. Still the "governing" body. Legal input because NIL has it's basis
from legal opinion. A selective group of college Presidents along with a group of AD's. and whoever makes sense to be part of solving the problems that are occurring.
All the daily news on the subject is making me weary. There has to be some action for corrections to happen. It can't be done by individual schools. The schools and coaches have been put in a purely reactive mode because that's all there is with the new age of college sports.

Sorry I couldn't be more brief. I'm not trying rant. I'd like to hear your thoughts. And, a special shout out to @Rogue Cock for his comments regarding NIL.

I would love it if there were some way to fix the system. Unfortunately, the system has always been a corrupt system and now the corruption is legal and can be seen by all. IMHO we need to make this pseudo amateur sport a pro development league built by private businesses. Call it NFL junior or whatever.

Trying to pretend that this is some university sanctioned intercollegiate event requires on to suspend their rational thought. If we want college athletics to watch, make it all a club sport, all volunteer, no scholarships, and no multimillion dollar coaches with absolute leverage.