I'd have to say that my interest has plummeted. The idea of high school kids getting more to play football than their freshman year professors makes me sick. The transfer portal has hurt the competitiveness of lesser programs which already struggle for relevance. Free markets are great until they're not. That being said, Penn State losses (on and off the field) no longer affect me as they once did.
What percentage enthusiasm do you retain for PSU and college football from pre-transfer/NIL levels?
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Pre - season seems futile with transfers and jerk around recruiting (My list is down to 10 teams etc.).
Once the season starts I'm into it , but what i suspected of other teams doing slyly in the past, they are doing in broad daylight.
Once the season starts I'm into it , but what i suspected of other teams doing slyly in the past, they are doing in broad daylight.
Fairly moderate, and that will change once Franklin either wins something significant or finds purpose elsewhere (by his own choosing or not).
Almost 100%. Recruiting might be the only thing that I don't retain 100% for since you don't even know if these players will be with the program for 2 years let alone 4.
But seeing as how I still check BWI at least once a day for recruiting news, its hard to say I don't retain 100% of the enthusiasm.
But seeing as how I still check BWI at least once a day for recruiting news, its hard to say I don't retain 100% of the enthusiasm.
It was mostly dog sh|t before. Itās all dog sh|t now.
It is most definitely down. Makes me sad, one of the top passions/priorities in my life is fading. I am season ticket holder for close to 30 years. I have listed all tics this year for sale, admittedly for the teams with a pulse at fairly high number, to try and make some profit, and will end up going to one or two, This will be my final year as season ticket holder, will attend one or two getting tics elsewhere.
Don't want to turn this into a typical PSU fan bashing, but I started out contributing monthly to NIL, nothing huge but not peanuts either. But, after a few months it hit me, if I am going to give $ away, why give to these kids getting free education, lots of perks and massive future earnings potential, when I could instead give to my own 20 somethings. Priorities. and personal choice......
Don't want to turn this into a typical PSU fan bashing, but I started out contributing monthly to NIL, nothing huge but not peanuts either. But, after a few months it hit me, if I am going to give $ away, why give to these kids getting free education, lots of perks and massive future earnings potential, when I could instead give to my own 20 somethings. Priorities. and personal choice......
5-10 yrs ago: I did not watch NFL except for big matchups, some playoffs. I watched college football from noon until late into the night. Didnāt really matter who was playing in non-Penn State games. I loved college football.
0-5 yrs ago: I watch multiple NFL games every weekend and almost every playoff game. I watch Penn State games, some big matchups, big conference games, big bowl games. I would say on average I now watch only one other college game per week.
0-5 yrs ago: I watch multiple NFL games every weekend and almost every playoff game. I watch Penn State games, some big matchups, big conference games, big bowl games. I would say on average I now watch only one other college game per week.
I'm still in the 100% all-in category. However, I don't take recruiting wins or losses as seriously as before. I'll watch a college football game whenever one is on. I am a "noon to 2 AM" Fall Saturday guy,
The game has officially passed me by. If I'm around, I'll watch PSU but I will no longer plan my Saturday around them
Flew in for 1 game a year for decades. Attended many bowl games. Spent a lot of money over the years. My enthusiasm has waned for football, but at my age so has everything else. lol
Good question. I had to ask myself what I used to value and how much of what I valued still exists. Sadly, the answer is "not much".
Everything else? Including who's the hottest pics?My enthusiasm has waned for football, but at my age so has everything else. lol
You took the words right out of my mouth. Each summer, I write a 10-11,000 word preview of PSU football, breaking it down player by player, unit by unit. With portrait photos of each player, it comes out to 30-34 pages in a Word document. It takes me many days to compile it, and I send it to an email distribution list. I have lost interest in writing it this year.
As you said, the idea of high school players making more money than college professors is over the top. It is not recruiting any longer- it is simply buying/paying/bribing players to play at your school. I have grown weary of it . . . my interest is waning tremendously.
Over a decade ago, after 40 years of season tickets, I realized that there are so many things more important in life than beating Ohio State or Michigan. Looking back, I have memories of some great games, but the costs, in terms of my time and treasure, were simply not worth it. I still watch the games, but in the comfort of my home, with family and friends, and at a fraction of the cost. The memories are still there, but they are about joyful times (win or lose) with people I care about.
Yep, Fair. My priorities have also been significantly realigned. And you know, I think it's been a net positive.
My interest is as high as ever. I would say the same is true for the vast majority of college football fans.
College Football viewership continues to break records:
Billion dollar TV contracts are being awarded to the SEC and B1G conferences.
The players are the key inputs responsible for generating the vast amounts of money being made by the TV networks and Universities. The free market is working perfectly. You want big time talent, you better pay or get left behind.
Lastly, I doubt there are many first year Professors collectively generating anywhere near the annual $200 million being generated by the young women and men Penn State athletes.
The past is the past. Time to let it go and move forward.
College Football viewership continues to break records:
ESPN Delivers Record Viewership Across College Football Playoff and New Yearās Six
ESPNās premier presentation of the College Football Playoff and New Yearās Six reached multi-year viewership highs and record audience..
espnpressroom.com
Billion dollar TV contracts are being awarded to the SEC and B1G conferences.
The players are the key inputs responsible for generating the vast amounts of money being made by the TV networks and Universities. The free market is working perfectly. You want big time talent, you better pay or get left behind.
Lastly, I doubt there are many first year Professors collectively generating anywhere near the annual $200 million being generated by the young women and men Penn State athletes.
The past is the past. Time to let it go and move forward.
You are not wrong, but that is not easy given how much I liked the past.
Your post is focused on watching football on TV. Someone at network level told me recently that he projects TV viewership will continue to rise over the next decade but actual attendance will decline, slowly at first and then precipitously. He put it simply. The money will be there but the fans in the stands will not. We shall see.My interest is as high as ever. I would say the same is true for the vast majority of college football fans.
College Football viewership continues to break records:
ESPN Delivers Record Viewership Across College Football Playoff and New Yearās Six
ESPNās premier presentation of the College Football Playoff and New Yearās Six reached multi-year viewership highs and record audience..espnpressroom.com
Billion dollar TV contracts are being awarded to the SEC and B1G conferences.
The players are the key inputs responsible for generating the vast amounts of money being made by the TV networks and Universities. The free market is working perfectly. You want big time talent, you better pay or get left behind.
Lastly, I doubt there are many first year Professors collectively generating anywhere near the annual $200 million being generated by the young women and men Penn State athletes.
The past is the past. Time to let it go and move forward.
While my interest in recruiting has taken a dip, my interest in the team's on the field performance is the same.
Ask this same question in season when the folks that are already melting down over past losses and state they aren't interested are full on holding torches after each play in the in game threads. It's easy to talk about how much you aren't interested when there are no games, but people are on this site for a reason.....just saying. It's also the same people that don't care, but know they need a HC to take the next step.
I still watch all the games but I gave up my tix and have stopped attending the usual 3-5 home games each year that I did for decades. Iām ashamed to say it but I resigned myself to the fact that they were never going to make a 4 team playoff field so my interest waned somewhat because of this. With the expansion to 12 teams, youād think Penn St should qualify somewhat regularly but my lowered confidence in the coaching staff doesnāt allow me to conclude that they will appear regularly. The portal was the final straw in that itās difficult to make an emotional investment into kids that are likely to move on with increased frequency.
I think this will be an exciting year and that 20 or so schools will be amongst the challengers to make the tourney. Maybe the enthusiasm will return but Iām not sure the ship hasnāt sailed for me.
I think this will be an exciting year and that 20 or so schools will be amongst the challengers to make the tourney. Maybe the enthusiasm will return but Iām not sure the ship hasnāt sailed for me.
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Right now Iām at about 33%. That could rise with the beginning of the season.
For me, it started when Parsons sat out the Covid season; but, It really hit me hard after the bowl game this year. Iāve taken the attitude of, if the players donāt care, why should I?
Penn State football has been my āhobbyā since I was a teenager in the 80s. Iām sort of sad that I am losing interest at a rapid pace. Iām holding on to my tickets hoping somebody fixes this mess. Iāll give them a couple more years. After that, I will give them up if Iām being held hostage for NIL money.
For me, it started when Parsons sat out the Covid season; but, It really hit me hard after the bowl game this year. Iāve taken the attitude of, if the players donāt care, why should I?
Penn State football has been my āhobbyā since I was a teenager in the 80s. Iām sort of sad that I am losing interest at a rapid pace. Iām holding on to my tickets hoping somebody fixes this mess. Iāll give them a couple more years. After that, I will give them up if Iām being held hostage for NIL money.
Think of it this way ... for many years, one of the top passions/priorities in your life was watching kids play a game. You've finally grown up a bit ... be happy.
When I was a kid my heros, in addition to the Lone Ranger, were ball players like Bill Mazeroski and Roberto Clemente. As I aged, with rare exception (Clemente), I cared less about individual players and more about teams, and so I passionately followed Penn State, the Pirates and Steelers. Now, in my 70's, I just don't care much about sports at any level. For me it was an evolution. Vicarious thrills don't satisfy me as much as beating my neighbor at darts, or Cornhole. Looking back, I can't understand my satisfaction in watching Penn State beat Ohio State, or Pitt. I did nothing to achieve the victory and no one would think more of me because I cheered for a winning football team. Late in life (sadly) I have come to realize that it is what we accomplish individually that really matters. Our legacy is about our efforts, not those of others. Still, I don't condemn those who feel otherwise. I was one of you for 50 years. If cheering Penn State on to victory makes your life better, who am I to say you are wrong?
The minute PSU wins a national title this entire board will run out and buy a t-shirt that they will wear, uninterrupted, for the next twenty years. The words "portal" and "NIL" will never be uttered again in a negative fashion.
Not me. I did nothing to earn it. But....when I win the neighborhood Cornhole Championship, I am all in...
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I am hesitant, yet interested. My years of understanding of sports activity was simple -- football is an extra-curricular activity, and must be second to academics. My hope for the performance of an individual off the field as well as on, has dimmed with the selection of the best amount to be paid for anyone to just show up. (what the hell did we work for all these years)
I fully realize to not judge a book by the cover, as there are many outstanding athletes - men and women - who follow the premise of team and teamwork to the extreme. If this payment system is to be the future, I hope all will benefit from their performance.
To be honest I have been to the NCAA corporate offices and been denied entrance to ask questions about the NCAA principles. Their selfish greed has been exposed in the initial court suit, yet they retain March Madness. The emperor has no teeth, yet rakes in the money where-ever it can.
I will watch Penn State and college football and women's volleyball - and hope for the best for Penn State. It is expensive to travel from Naples, FL to State College for more than one special game each year - v. TV, drinks, food, comfortable seating, no traffic - yet I do miss the antics of all of us in the stands. Oh well.
I must say it again - WE Are !
Above - pre Ohio State '16
Below - after Ohio State - we won !
I fully realize to not judge a book by the cover, as there are many outstanding athletes - men and women - who follow the premise of team and teamwork to the extreme. If this payment system is to be the future, I hope all will benefit from their performance.
To be honest I have been to the NCAA corporate offices and been denied entrance to ask questions about the NCAA principles. Their selfish greed has been exposed in the initial court suit, yet they retain March Madness. The emperor has no teeth, yet rakes in the money where-ever it can.
I will watch Penn State and college football and women's volleyball - and hope for the best for Penn State. It is expensive to travel from Naples, FL to State College for more than one special game each year - v. TV, drinks, food, comfortable seating, no traffic - yet I do miss the antics of all of us in the stands. Oh well.
I must say it again - WE Are !
Above - pre Ohio State '16
Below - after Ohio State - we won !
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We can only hope he wins this year and after gets poached. That would be a win-win for all.By then, Franklinās contract might be due for renewal.
About the same. Nothing better than a fall Saturday in State College. I have nothing against the players getting paid. Not getting sucked in by NIL. Wonāt give a dime.