My thought was oh noooo not another coordinator.
What was your initial thought on the Lebby hire?
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Lazy hire. Had the appearance of an AD with very few connections or knowhow who took the easy path
He was not in my top three. I thought all of his offensive success was probly due to his head coaches. But now he has been hired and IS the Miss State head coach and needs support for at least 2 or 3 years instead of constantly being undermined
Seemed lazy but his track record was solid. I didn't hate it. The problem is if you take a chance on a coordinator, you better surround him with experience. We didn't do that.
A big gamble. I would have rather had a sitting head coach or someone with head coaching experience.
“Ole Miss guy.” “Oklahoma guy.” “Inexperienced.” “Hope this works.”
Was very disappointed. Thought we were gonna pull off something big , as in a proven HEAD COACH. I think I remember them saying Sumrall was the second choice. He would have been way better.
Same here. Lazy hire, crony hire, and we needed an experienced head coach not a coordinator gamble because we were in a very precarious situation with our football program.
Wasn’t thrilled but got on board quickly because the “I hope this works out”/optimistic mindset seemed drastically less miserable of an existence than the “I was right/see, I told you so” mindset
Agree. I was hopefully it would be closer to a Mullen hire. Right now not looking good but it is still early.
Cignetti was my preferred choice and then I would’ve preferred Lashlee or Chadwell if they had been interested. Lebby was maybe a 4th or 5th option. I liked him better than defensive head coaches like Sumrall and Odom but now concede I may have been wrong on that.
Was intrigued by his ceiling but cautious because of lack of experience. When he put together his staff I became more uneasy.
Was intrigued by his ceiling but cautious because of lack of experience. When he put together his staff I became more uneasy.
Excited until I saw the staff he put together.
^^^^This^^^^ we had $$$ for good assistants but it looks like we blew it on Lebby’s buddies.
My initial thought. WHY? Being jaded by a very long time of us hiring coaches. Hiring Felker, Croom and Moorhead. Thought also Lebby hiring his buddy. Also why not a proven head coach, somebody with a history, something to prove, had connections for staff and was a harda&&.
Same here. Our inexperienced AD hired an inexperienced head Coach that hired inexperienced staff. Notice a trend?
Exactly. The DC hire concerned me even more— and with good reason.
My default setting right here.
While I hoped for 5-7, my worst case scenario was 2-10 (the bare minimum floor) and we got there.
Do we really know how many other options we had? I know names were thrown out there but how many looked at our situation and turned us down?
basically referring to getting an experienced head coach vs a coordinator
basically referring to getting an experienced head coach vs a coordinator
Like many others, I hoped for an experienced head coach. When our geeen AD hired an Oklahoma OC whom he knew personally, I was wary of this being a lazy hire but I hoped for the best. After all, Mullen worked out well. When we failed to hire an experienced DC, I sharted my pants. A brand new head coach who was purely an offensive minded guy desperately needed an experienced DC. This is the SEC, defense is NOT optional like in the Big 12. Some adults in the room needed to guide the hire of the DC. They didn’t, and now we have a program that sucks to high heaven and might possibly struggle against lots of high school programs where I live.
Cautious optimism. Hiring an OC worked with Mullen but not with Moorhead. It was a roll of the dice. I also didn't expect to lose virtually every offensive and defensive starter. My optimism for any kind of "good" season crashed. Brand new coaching staff with brand new roster = pain.
I never put much thought into it. You never know until they coach a game. Right now, I don't feel good about him and Selmon as far as that goes. One thing anytime I am negative I hope I am wrong and would proudly come on here and say I am wrong. They are going to have to prove me wrong. I worry about Selmon hiring coaches. I am worried he will go the buddy route. I really hope I am wrong.
Disappointed we didn't hire a winning head coach from a P5 or even a G5 program but glad we didn't hire a defensive coordinator. Then we hired a position coach for DC and hope left the building. Every good Head Coach that moved from OC to HC understand s the importance of hiring a strong DC to shore up their coaching weaknesses.
Sumrall may have left first chance. He's about
Agreed. OTOH Mullen didn't hire a strong DC to begin with but he didn't last long....he was gone after the first year.
Right after we fired an inexperienced coach & an inexperienced staff. We just blindly repeated our mistakes. And honestly got what we deserve.Same here. Our inexperienced AD hired an inexperienced head Coach that hired inexperienced staff. Notice a trend?
Lazy hire. We couldn’t afford to take a chance on a coordinator and fail. He may ultimately work out but his first year was a major bust and year two is going to be an uphill struggle.
Cohen left because he had a bunch of good ole boys around here telling him what to do, as well as his wife. He went to Auburn (close to home) and still has his wife and good ole boys telling him what you do but he's making more money being told what to do. Plus over there people weren't tired of his sh it like they were here. It won't take long there for them to get tired of him but in the mean time he's adding another mil or two per year which adds up over a few years till they run him off too
Thought he was not overly impressive but was about as good as we were going to get….knew we had zero chance of landing a proven sitting HC (unless it was the Troy guy who was not that proven).
It didn’t work. Will probably have to gamble on another coordinator for the replacement, unless we luck into Gundy or someone like that.
It didn’t work. Will probably have to gamble on another coordinator for the replacement, unless we luck into Gundy or someone like that.
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