Who the hell are the Cleveland GUARDIANS

Bulldog Bruce

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Not sure that’s always the case….

Mets
Expos
Yankees
Pelicans
Penguins
Trash Pandas
Bananas
Twins
Isotopes
Rebels
Rays
Jazz
Nuggets
Okra

And on and on and on. Some names are generally non-intimidating, silly, and/or stupid for reasons that don’t really have anything to do with potentially offensive or racist subtext.

It’s not a huge deal to change a team name for any reason, it happens all the time for other purposes. That’s the flip side to this constant culture war. If its something that really isn’t sacred anyway, why the hell keep it in place unnecessarily if there is a better path forward?
Did I say every team?

But none are named
Dimwits
Moron
Pansies
Losers


The point is it wasn't derogatory until sensitive people decided it was.

Plus Yankees and Rebels killed hundreds of thousands of each other so they must have been pretty tough and scary.
 
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Lettuce

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Personally, I think Delta State should be next. Did you know that every year millions of okras are sacrificed to be part of a delicious gumbo? OLM
I Can take it further ….slaves introduced North America to okra. The plant came over here and washed up all of our hard earned white people dirt. I’m German heritage so I’m not super offended ** But I’d be pissed if I was Native American***
 
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Perd Hapley

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Did I say every team?

But none are named
Dimwits
Moron
Pansies
Losers


The point is it wasn't derogatory until sensitive people decided it was.
It actually wasn’t derogatory until it became a more fiscally responsible move for the ownership of the franchise to appease the “sensitive people” (whatever your definition of that is) than it was to keep the status quo. If you think the team ownership or MLB gives a crap about anything else, you’re kidding yourself.

The name change was always about improving the social optics and thus the overall profitability of the franchise. Nobody held the team ownership at gunpoint and made them do this. They did it entirely on their own, and for reasons backed by sound marketing data. There’s no reason to have outrage or take offense to someone just running their business in the way that makes them the most money. That’s the intent that matters.
 
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Bulldog Bruce

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It actually wasn’t derogatory until it became a more fiscally responsible move for the ownership of the franchise to appease the “sensitive people” (whatever your definition of that is) than it was to keep the status quo. If you think the team ownership or MLB gives a crap about anything else, you’re kidding yourself.

The name change was always about improving the social optics and thus the overall profitability of the franchise. Nobody held the team ownership at gunpoint and made them do this. They did it entirely on their own, and for reasons backed by sound marketing data. There’s no reason to have outrage or take offense to someone just running their business in the way that makes them the most money. That’s the intent that matters.
Okay so you agree with me. I never complained or said they shouldn't change their name if they want to. I was just saying that the names were meant and given as a positive name.

Oh, And the sensitive people are idiots.
 
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