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The Emmy's 50 years of hip hop this week on CBS?
 
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What is the point of this thread? Honestly? Remember back in the day when you were a kid and the older folks said Rock and Roll was evil.....SSDG. DG = different generation.

 
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What is the point of this thread? Honestly? Remember back in the day when you were a kid and the older folks said Rock and Roll was evil.....SSDG. DG = different generation.


The point of the thread is so that old guys can whine about music they don't like that has been part of the musical landscape for half a century. The key here is "we don't like it so therefore it's bad and we want to constantly complain about it".
 

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The point of the thread is so that old guys can whine about music they don't like that has been part of the musical landscape for half a century. The key here is "we don't like it so therefore it's bad and we want to constantly complain about it".
I don't watch the CMT's, grammy's, Oscars, or any other BS like that because art is subjective to begin with. Oh well....I'll just make this an impromptu hip hop thread and I'm not a hip hop guru by any means, but I do appreciate some of it from my childhood.





 
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This thread: old, out of touch white guys scream "Get off my lawn!" when no one is on their lawn.
 
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This thread: old, out of touch white guys scream "Get off my lawn!" when no one is on their lawn.
Hmmmm.....thanks.....didn't know I was white. Anyway, try some jazz. Best musicians on earth play Jazz my friend.
 

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Hmmmm.....thanks.....didn't know I was white. Anyway, try some jazz. Best musicians on earth play Jazz my friend.
I like jazz. I also like hip-hop, R&B and a bunch of other musical genres. Yippee for me. I don't usually take the time to throw snark at ones I don't find as appealing, however.
 
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I like jazz. I also like hip-hop, R&B and a bunch of other musical genres. Yippee for me. I don't usually take the time to throw snark at ones I don't find as appealing, however.
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Clearly some people like it. Then again this is the US where you need to crap on anything you may not like just because....and then complain about the other side of your mouth how this younger generation is screwing up society. Gee.....wonder where it was learned?
 

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Clearly some people like it. Then again this is the US where you need to crap on anything you may not like just because....and then complain about the other side of your mouth how this younger generation is screwing up society. Gee.....wonder where it was learned?
So, my friend, is there no place to be critical? Not that it is all bad, but much of rap/hip hop lyrics are either vulgar, sexist or racist. I never had an opinion on this 'music' until I started paying attention to the lyrics. My criticism is not directed at another generation, but simply to a genre of music. Not unlike being critical of a sub-standard car.
 
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I like jazz. I also like hip-hop, R&B and a bunch of other musical genres. Yippee for me. I don't usually take the time to throw snark at ones I don't find as appealing, however.

I like almost all genres in at least some form. I also like mockery though.. here’s my favorite as it relates to music:

“I don’t like country music, but I don’t denigrate those who do. And for those who like country music, denigrate means to put down.” (Bob Newhart)
 

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So, my friend, is there no place to be critical? Not that it is all bad, but much of rap/hip hop lyrics are either vulgar, sexist or racist. I never had an opinion on this 'music' until I started paying attention to the lyrics. My criticism is not directed at another generation, but simply to a genre of music. Not unlike being critical of a sub-standard car.
Like I said SSDG as that was the same exact thing said about rock and roll about 40-50 years back if not longer. Offensive lyrics like this?

"Hey, little girl Is your Daddy home? Did he go away and leave you all alone? I've got a bad desire"

There are countless rock songs just like this and even worse by some of the most popular artist ever. Yacht Rock is a genre I love, but have you ever really listened to Steely Dan lyrics and the messages? Pretty twisted and they were far from the only ones. Not all hip songs are offensive either just as all rock songs aren't. Jazz man...you realize jazz was once demonized too....right? It was the "devil's music". I'm not some hip hop/rap guru at all, but listen to some of it. It's certainly not my top genre, but some of it has been great over the last 4-5 decades.
 
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Like I said SSDG as that was the same exact thing said about rock and roll about 40-50 years back if not longer. Offensive lyrics like this?

"Hey, little girl Is your Daddy home? Did he go away and leave you all alone? I've got a bad desire"

There are countless rock songs just like this and even worse by some of the most popular artist ever. Yacht Rock is a genre I love, but have you ever really listened to Steely Dan lyrics and the messages? Pretty twisted and they were far from the only ones. Not all hip songs are offensive either just as all rock songs aren't. Jazz man...you realize jazz was once demonized too....right? It was the "devil's music". I'm not some hip hop/rap guru at all, but listen to some of it. It's certainly not my top genre, but some of it has been great over the last 4-5 decades.

Seems like only yesterday the Tide Pod eating hipsters were trying to cancel this one

 

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Like I said SSDG as that was the same exact thing said about rock and roll about 40-50 years back if not longer. Offensive lyrics like this?

"Hey, little girl Is your Daddy home? Did he go away and leave you all alone? I've got a bad desire"

There are countless rock songs just like this and even worse by some of the most popular artist ever. Yacht Rock is a genre I love, but have you ever really listened to Steely Dan lyrics and the messages? Pretty twisted and they were far from the only ones. Not all hip songs are offensive either just as all rock songs aren't. Jazz man...you realize jazz was once demonized too....right? It was the "devil's music". I'm not some hip hop/rap guru at all, but listen to some of it. It's certainly not my top genre, but some of it has been great over the last 4-5 decades.
Point taken. However, I don't believe Rock's lyrics reaches the level of vulgarity as rap/hip hop. Btw, I've performed in all genres, and IMHO and many others, the best musicians are jazz musicians.
 
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So, my friend, is there no place to be critical? Not that it is all bad, but much of rap/hip hop lyrics are either vulgar, sexist or racist. I never had an opinion on this 'music' until I started paying attention to the lyrics. My criticism is not directed at another generation, but simply to a genre of music. Not unlike being critical of a sub-standard car.
Isn't that where they run around grabbing their crotch?
 

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Point taken. However, I don't believe Rock's lyrics reaches the level of vulgarity as rap/hip hop. Btw, I've performed in all genres, and IMHO and many others, the best musicians are jazz musicians.
I don't dispute that jazz has some of the most talented musicians around, but I didn't start a thread trying to poopooo on a genre for really no reason at all. I love some jazz that comes over my way....also really like Latin jazz hybrid which to me is the better brand of jazz, but that is just my take.

 
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Seems like only yesterday the Tide Pod eating hipsters were trying to cancel this one


I despise cancel culture that is why I still go to Disney, drink Bud Lights, while eating M&M's and praising the FBI as well as Colin Kapernick. LOL....it's the lack of self awareness for some while they try to make a point that is funny to me.
 
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I despise cancel culture that is why I still go to Disney, drink Bud Lights, while eating M&M's and praising the FBI as well as Colin Kapernick. LOL....it's the lack of self awareness for some while they try to make a point that is funny to me.
Agreed. I display the American flag at my house and love singing the National Anthem at events.
 
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I don’t disrespect the national anthem with my singing.
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Lol.....and just to be clear. I have no issues with people enjoying hip hop 'music'. I simply have an opinion about the genre of music. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
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