Why are Mississippi Folks so fat?

[PrimeDog]

Because 50-60 years ago you didn’t have gas station fried chicken every 2 miles and a McDonalds or Wendy’s or whatever else at every town. Food is readily available everywhere and a lot of it is not healthy choices.

Also we didn’t eat fast food nearly as much. Growing up in the 70s/80s it was a rare treat to hit up the DQ after dinner. We may would get a bucket of KFC on a Sunday once a month. The only time I ever had McDonalds or BK was when my mom had to get something quick before they went out for the night and left us kids with a relative or sitter.

Now you have all these teenagers that throw a fit if they don’t have Starbucks in the morning, Chick-fil-A for lunch and whatever other garbage they want to eat at night.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

You have isolated the only variable that can INCREASE your weight and decided it has a low level of importance in determining obesity. It’s really funny.

I never said eating couldn't increase your weight. Ever watch Beard Meets Food on YouTube or Katina Eats Kilos? Both have an extraordinary capacity to eat but pass the eye test for a normal physique. There are many gradations of this phenomenon that occur when you have control of other variables that apply to the accumulation of adipose tissue.

 

[Ranchdawg]

If you are 5' 3" and you weigh 250lbs then . . .you fat!

 

[bulldoghair]

But you just said thiomersal was still in vaccines so how can you credit its removal for the decrease in obesity (I wasn't able to verify and will take your word for it) in a small subset of the population?

Here’s a study published in the North American Journal of Medical Sciences in 2016 about the association specifically between thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine exposure and childhood obesity. It found that children diagnosed with obesity were more likely to have received greater exposure to thimerosal-containing hepatitis B vaccines within the first six months of life. Thimerosal acts as an obesogen.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305693495_Thimerosal-containing_Hepatitis_B_Vaccine_Exposure_is_Highly_Associated_with_Childhood_Obesity_A_Case-control_Study_Using_the_Vaccine_Safety_Datalink#:~:text=In%2520a%2520dose%252Dresponse%2520manner,needed%2520to%2520examine%2520this%2520phenomenon.&text=Content%2520may%2520be%2520subject%2520to%2520copyright.&text=Abstract-,Background:%2520Obesity%2520among%2520children%2520and%2520adolescents%2520in%2520the%2520United%2520States,a%2520major%2520public%2520health%2520concern.&text=examine%2520this%2520phenomenon.,-Keywords:%2520Ethylmercury%252C%2520mercury&text=Address%2520for%2520correspondence:,%252C%2520Maryland%2520%25E2%2580%259120905%252C%2520USA.&text=new%2520creations%2520are%2520licensed%2520under%2520the%2520identical%2520terms.&text=safety%2520datalink.,;8:297%252D306.&text=Mercury%2520(Hg)%2520is%2520also%2520a%2520powerful%2520endocrine%2520disrupter.&text=of%2520enzymes%2520within%2520the%2520steroidogenesis%2520pathway.&text=were%2520exposed%2520to%252037.5%2520%C2%B5g%2520Hg%2520from%2520TM%25E2%2580%2591HepB.

 

[3-2 Dawg]

Made it to the end. The fact this thread didn’t end in 5-10 replies with some boring agreements about calories going in being greater than calories expended is why I come back to SPS. Hard to look away from a 50 car pileup

 

[PK Dawg]

Just imagine how much fatter we could be if Texas Roadhouse would expand through the State

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Here’s a study published in the North American Journal of Medical Sciences in 2016 about the association specifically between thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine exposure and childhood obesity. It found that children diagnosed with obesity were more likely to have received greater exposure to thimerosal-containing hepatitis B vaccines within the first six months of life. Thimerosal acts as an obesogen.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305693495_Thimerosal-containing_Hepatitis_B_Vaccine_Exposure_is_Highly_Associated_with_Childhood_Obesity_A_Case-control_Study_Using_the_Vaccine_Safety_Datalink#:~:text=In%2520a%2520dose%252Dresponse%2520manner,needed%2520to%2520examine%2520this%2520phenomenon.&text=Content%2520may%2520be%2520subject%2520to%2520copyright.&text=Abstract-,Background:%2520Obesity%2520among%2520children%2520and%2520adolescents%2520in%2520the%2520United%2520States,a%2520major%2520public%2520health%2520concern.&text=examine%2520this%2520phenomenon.,-Keywords:%2520Ethylmercury%252C%2520mercury&text=Address%2520for%2520correspondence:,%252C%2520Maryland%2520%25E2%2580%259120905%252C%2520USA.&text=new%2520creations%2520are%2520licensed%2520under%2520the%2520identical%2520terms.&text=safety%2520datalink.,;8:297%252D306.&text=Mercury%2520(Hg)%2520is%2520also%2520a%2520powerful%2520endocrine%2520disrupter.&text=of%2520enzymes%2520within%2520the%2520steroidogenesis%2520pathway.&text=were%2520exposed%2520to%252037.5%2520%C2%B5g%2520Hg%2520from%2520TM%25E2%2580%2591HepB.

David Geier? Come on, man. You might as well cite the Andrew Wakefield "study"

Even conservative sites dunk on this guy.

Head of New RFK Jr. Vaccine Study Practiced Unlicensed Medicine on Autistic Kids

Even though David Geier is not a physician, he gave autistic children a dangerous, unapproved drug and improperly prescribed puberty blockers.

www.the74million.org

The first thing you get when you Google Geier's name is how he was charged for practicing medicine without a license or a medical degree:

https://www.mbp.state.md.us/BPQAPP/orders/GeierCharge05162011.pdf

 

[HotMop]

I think I know....

 

[thekimmer]

After 2001, most childhood vaccines no longer contained thimerosal. Supposedly much smaller or traces amounts are still in some vaccines. Flu shot vaccines still contain thimerosal.

Linking thimerosal with obesity is about the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a long time.

 

[paindonthurt]

When you say diet are you talking about the food people eat and how much of it they eat? Or just the food they eat?

I’d consider someone’s diet to both the food they eat and the portions. I would agree that someone can eat almost anything and stay within a healthy caloric intake and probably be thin.

But I don’t understand how you think this can anything than the most important factor, in particular portion control. I’m sure you can eat every meal at McDonald’s and if you keep your daily caloric intake less than 2,000, you’re probably thin… not healthy though. If you eat a super size Big Mac meal twice a day, you’re gonna be fat, I don’t care what your genetics are and how much you sleep and exercise.

Diet is definitely a huge part of it but people in “food deserts” aren’t eating Big Macs every day bc there isn’t food.

They do that bc they are stupid and lazy.

 

[paindonthurt]

Just because you MAGATs choose the trans as your irrational scapegoats for everything doesn’t mean they RFK isn’t a total dipshit. But nice try

We don’t have a problem with the trans.

We have a problem with white liberals shoving it down our throat and pretending it’s not a mental disorder.

How do I know it’s a mental disorder? Bc if I cut my leg off at my knee and added a wooden peg and removed an eye and put on a patch simply bc I wanted to identify as a pirate you’d rightfully call me a crazy mother 17er.

But chopping a 12 year olds weiner off seems perfectly ok with you!!

 

[QuaoarsKing]

But chopping a 12 year olds weiner off seems perfectly ok with you!!

Do you have a specific example of a 12 year old having a penis removal surgery?

You'll win more arguments without exaggerating.

 

[bulldoghair]

David Geier? Come on, man. You might as well cite the Andrew Wakefield "study"

Even conservative sites dunk on this guy.

Head of New RFK Jr. Vaccine Study Practiced Unlicensed Medicine on Autistic Kids

Even though David Geier is not a physician, he gave autistic children a dangerous, unapproved drug and improperly prescribed puberty blockers.

www.the74million.org

The first thing you get when you Google Geier's name is how he was charged for practicing medicine without a license or a medical degree:

https://www.mbp.state.md.us/BPQAPP/orders/GeierCharge05162011.pdf

Ha. “Google” . Here you go. And as the first commentator says, in summary, “The government and media smeared scientists who exposed vaccine risks and hid the real data from the public. Now Kennedy is putting those previously smeared scientists in charge of making all vaccine safety data public and transparent, so the truth can’t be buried again.”

 

[mstateglfr]

Diet is definitely a huge part of it but people in “food deserts” aren’t eating Big Macs every day bc there isn’t food.

They do that bc they are stupid and lazy.

A food desert isn't an area with a total lack of food.
It's an area where affordable fresh and nutritious food and lacking or difficult to access.

A food desert can have a ton of unhealthy fast food in it.




It appears this is yet another time where some posters really should do a bit of reading up on a topic before commenting.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Ha. “Google” . Here you go. And as the first commentator says, in summary, “The government and media smeared scientists who exposed vaccine risks and hid the real data from the public. Now Kennedy is putting those previously smeared scientists in charge of making all vaccine safety data public and transparent, so the truth can’t be buried again.”

If you want to trust a conman with a BA in biology over >99% of actual doctors and scientists, be my guest.

 

[Pilgrimdawg]

Because we have a serious and legitimate negative obsession with pointed elbows.

 

[ronpolk]

Diet is definitely a huge part of it but people in “food deserts” aren’t eating Big Macs every day bc there isn’t food.

They do that bc they are stupid and lazy.

I don’t have much of an informed opinion on food deserts. I know the term and understand the meaning. I can 2 sides of that debate.

I go duck hunting in a small town in the delta, Lambert. There ain’t **** around lambert. A dollar store and some gas stations is about it. And there certainly ain’t a lot of healthy food around. I can get on board with the fact that the reason there is not healthy food around is because it won’t sell. I 100% understand that and agree with that thought. But you know there are at least a handful of people that do make better eating choices and probably have to travel a decent little hike to get some quality healthy food.

So I understand it as a term and a theory/thought, but I think stores are going to carry what will sell.

 

[paindonthurt]

Do you have a specific example of a 12 year old having a penis removal surgery?

You'll win more arguments without exaggerating.

You can replace 12 year old with anyone and my point is the same

 

[PK Dawg]

But in reality MS isn’t much fatter than most places if you don’t include the delta. Remove the delta, and MS ranks pretty much middle of the pack in all statistics. That’s some hellacious poverty to overcome

 

[paindonthurt]

A food desert isn't an area with a total lack of food.
It's an area where affordable fresh and nutritious food and lacking or difficult to access.

A food desert can have a ton of unhealthy fast food in it.




It appears this is yet another time where some posters really should do a bit of reading up on a topic before commenting.

Yeah this is another time where tou talk a lot but don’t understand what you are talking about.

there are plenty of places in the delta to grocery shop and get reasonably priced food that is way healthier than fast food.

yet dubmasses keeping buying Big Macs and then spend their EBT on junk food.

At what point do you ever hold people accountable for their actions?

 

[paindonthurt]

I don’t have much of an informed opinion on food deserts. I know the term and understand the meaning. I can 2 sides of that debate.

I go duck hunting in a small town in the delta, Lambert. There ain’t **** around lambert. A dollar store and some gas stations is about it. And there certainly ain’t a lot of healthy food around. I can get on board with the fact that the reason there is not healthy food around is because it won’t sell. I 100% understand that and agree with that thought. But you know there are at least a handful of people that do make better eating choices and probably have to travel a decent little hike to get some quality healthy food.

So I understand it as a term and a theory/thought, but I think stores are going to carry what will sell.

This. I wholeheartedly agree.

But you can look to places like Greenville, Cleveland, clarksdale, etc. plenty of grocery stores with healthy food options but they still fat a$$ 17 bc they are stupid and lazy.

No amount of me or anyone else trying will change that until they do it themselves.

The one thing that could legit help them be healthier is make EBT for only healthy foods but I don’t see any liberals fighting that fight.

 

[paindonthurt]

But in reality MS isn’t much fatter than most places if you don’t include the delta. Remove the delta, and MS ranks pretty much middle of the pack in all statistics. That’s some hellacious poverty to overcome

I wonder what it would be if you removed demographics and compared us to other states with lower minority demographics.

 

[mstateglfr]

Yeah this is another time where tou talk a lot but don’t understand what you are talking about.

there are plenty of places in the delta to grocery shop and get reasonably priced food that is way healthier than fast food.

yet dubmasses keeping buying Big Macs and then spend their EBT on junk food.

At what point do you ever hold people accountable for their actions?

Oh, so your prior post was just poorly worded.
Gotcha.

 

[paindonthurt]

Oh, so your prior post was just poorly worded.
Gotcha.

No you just look at every single thing from your point of view which is a really dumb point of view.

 

[TrueMaroonGrind]

Coming back and reading this thread after posting on the first page

 

[TrueMaroonGrind]

In reality this level of obesity is a combination of a lot of things mentioned in this thread minus some of the tin foil hat wildness. Food availability, poverty, self control, food quality, sedentary lifestyles and genetics. You don’t get this fat without a whole lot of stuff working against you including yourself.

 

[FrontRangeDawg]

Likely the same folks that said that spanking kids was bad, we should pay for gender transition surgery for minors and to blindly take the jab. Common sense tells you this is silly. If folks in the hood, or a small delta town, would rather spend their money on salads than fried foods, then the vendors would supply that. It is cheaper to provide someone grilled chicken breast and salads than fried chicken and rice and gravy.

Don't be a simp, don't be lemming, question everything.

Spanking children is not only ineffective, it's the fastest way to spot someone who fundamentally misunderstands their child's behavior as well as their own. It also makes you look like a simpleton.

If you spank your kid, you teach your child to be afraid of you to some degree. You think you're teaching them consequences to the unwanted conduct, but young kids don't make that connection because they lack the understanding of why the conduct is bad for the most part.

My brother and I grew up getting spanked by my dad several times a week, usually for fighting. I/we never stopped the fighting, but we did dread my dad. Those two things never connected.

I have two teenage boys who have never been spanked and they've somehow turned out just fine.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

It appears this is yet another time where some posters really should do a bit of reading up on a topic before commenting.

Forget it. He's rolling.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

In reality this level of obesity is a combination of a lot of things mentioned in this thread minus some of the tin foil hat wildness. Food availability, poverty, self control, food quality, sedentary lifestyles and genetics. You don’t get this fat without a whole lot of stuff working against you including yourself.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

I'll type it again:
Too much self-gratification and not enough coupling. MS is one of the top pron viewing states per capita (even higher in the gaypron category) - look it up. That's a petri dish for for depression, inactivity, and overeating.

Those with an active sex life are healthier and happier.

But nobody wants to 17 fat, old, ugly, unlovable people.

Catch 22

 

[johnson86-1]

A food desert isn't an area with a total lack of food.
It's an area where affordable fresh and nutritious food and lacking or difficult to access.

A food desert can have a ton of unhealthy fast food in it.




It appears this is yet another time where some posters really should do a bit of reading up on a topic before commenting.

Well, if people are confused, it's because it was chosen to be confusing. It's like Elizabeth Warren's paper on "Medical bankruptcies". That name was chosen to sucker people into thinking that medical bankruptcies were ones that were caused by medical bills. Food desert was chosen because if they had used words more reflective of the definition, people would have immediately realized that most of the non-rural "food deserts" were places where healthy food was less available because of the preferences of people living there.

 

[johnson86-1]

I wonder what it would be if you removed demographics and compared us to other states with lower minority demographics.

For most state rankings on whatever metric you want to look at, if you just rank states by demographics they are going to look pretty similar. We have plenty of things we are just going to rank lowly in, but mostly it's a demographics are destiny type view. That's what makes our reading and math scores so much more impressive now. We are making huge strides in rankings even if you don't adjust for demographics.

 

[mstateglfr]

Food desert was chosen because if they had used words more reflective of the definition, people would have immediately realized that most of the non-rural "food deserts" were places where healthy food was less available because of the preferences of people living there.

The comment in red doesn't address rural food deserts, obviously.
The comment in red doesn't recognize the reality that there are areas which were once food deserts and changed, despite the demographics and socioeconomic of the area staying the same.


Other than your point being bad, you make a good point.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

In this thread, I've seen this:

The two most childhood vaccinated states are West Virginia and Mississippi. The two fattest states are West Virginia and Mississippi. It wasn’t until 2023 Mississippi started allowing for religious exemptions with regards to childhood vaccines. West Virginia law currently still does not allow for religious or philosophical exemptions to mandatory school vaccinations.

....this:

All the sociologists, nutritionists, and economists who have conducted studies and analyzed data are wrong?
Food deserts as a concept are silly?


Interesting take.

....this:

I've eaten fried food, fast food, processed food and junk food all of my life and I'm nowhere close to fat. Your diet has very little to do with it.

......and this:

Federal nutrition policy for the last 50 years has done it. I saw a video recently of the LFL in the 70s or 80s and there wasn't a fat person to be seen.

To tally it up, that's the:

1) 'vaccines are killing us bu I'll shoot clorox and ivermectin up my asss' dude;
2) 'grocery stores are meanies because they want to locate where people would actually buy food' people;
3) A grown adult that literally said that what you put into your body does not affect your body;
4) a 'gubmint trying to kill us all' whacko.

Is the answer to this question really all that hard? Too many calories, and of those calories - a large portion of them are bad with little nutritional value. Then a lazy lifestyle. That is 80% of it right there. I guess I didn't realize this needed a political debate.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

Spanking children is not only ineffective, it's the fastest way to spot someone who fundamentally misunderstands their child's behavior as well as their own. It also makes you look like a simpleton.

If you spank your kid, you teach your child to be afraid of you to some degree. You think you're teaching them consequences to the unwanted conduct, but young kids don't make that connection because they lack the understanding of why the conduct is bad for the most part.

My brother and I grew up getting spanked by my dad several times a week, usually for fighting. I/we never stopped the fighting, but we did dread my dad. Those two things never connected.

I have two teenage boys who have never been spanked and they've somehow turned out just fine.

There's absolute no augment to counter that society was much, much, much better 40+ years ago when spanking kids was the norm. Would you rather live in 1980 and have your kids grow up in 1980 or today? I'll take 1980 and the spankings.

 

[paindonthurt]

The comment in red doesn't address rural food deserts, obviously.
The comment in red doesn't recognize the reality that there are areas which were once food deserts and changed, despite the demographics and socioeconomic of the area staying the same.


Other than your point being bad, you make a good point.

If healthy food doesn’t exist in a rural area bc the people there don’t prefer it, then it’s the people’s fault.

People are responsible for their own actions.

Very very few people who want to eat healthy don’t have access to healthy foods. You can bend and twist however you want but that’s a fact.

 

[paindonthurt]

In this thread, I've seen this:


....this:


....this:


......and this:


To tally it up, that's the:

1) 'vaccines are killing us bu I'll shoot clorox and ivermectin up my asss' dude;
2) 'grocery stores are meanies because they want to locate where people would actually buy food' people;
3) A grown adult that literally said that what you put into your body does not affect your body;
4) a 'gubmint trying to kill us all' whacko.

Is the answer to this question really all that hard? Too many calories, and of those calories - a large portion of them are bad with little nutritional value. Then a lazy lifestyle. That is 80% of it right there. I guess I didn't realize this needed a political debate.

It doesn’t need a political debate but one side wants to blame bad health on someone other than the person who lives a crappy lifestyle.

 

[paindonthurt]

Spanking children is not only ineffective, it's the fastest way to spot someone who fundamentally misunderstands their child's behavior as well as their own. It also makes you look like a simpleton.

If you spank your kid, you teach your child to be afraid of you to some degree. You think you're teaching them consequences to the unwanted conduct, but young kids don't make that connection because they lack the understanding of why the conduct is bad for the most part.

My brother and I grew up getting spanked by my dad several times a week, usually for fighting. I/we never stopped the fighting, but we did dread my dad. Those two things never connected.

I have two teenage boys who have never been spanked and they've somehow turned out just fine.

What an absolute crock of shlt.

my dad whipped my a$$ when I didn’t do what he said. He explained to me before and after why.

same with my sisters and brother. He didn’t have to whip us a lot bc we learned.

im better for it and I love my dad for it.

are there other ways? Sure but one way doesn’t work for everyone and some kids need their @SS beat occasionally

 

[thekimmer]

I don’t have much of an informed opinion on food deserts. I know the term and understand the meaning. I can 2 sides of that debate.

I go duck hunting in a small town in the delta, Lambert. There ain’t **** around lambert. A dollar store and some gas stations is about it. And there certainly ain’t a lot of healthy food around. I can get on board with the fact that the reason there is not healthy food around is because it won’t sell. I 100% understand that and agree with that thought. But you know there are at least a handful of people that do make better eating choices and probably have to travel a decent little hike to get some quality healthy food.

So I understand it as a term and a theory/thought, but I think stores are going to carry what will sell.

A food desert isn't an area with a total lack of food.
It's an area where affordable fresh and nutritious food and lacking or difficult to access.

A food desert can have a ton of unhealthy fast food in it.




It appears this is yet another time where some posters really should do a bit of reading up on a topic before commenting.

OK then what is the solution? Have the government mandate that there must be a Kroger within walking distance of every American? Good luck with that. I think that even if there were that option most would still buy ding dongs and chips.

The problem is not the availability of food. If enough people wanted to buy healthier food, it would be available. Their are many causes but one of the main ones is an ingrained culture of government dependency where people are given just enough to live on while they sit on their asses all day and was created to maintain a perpetual reliable voting bloc.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

Just keep eating. You have a mouth, stomach and butthole. Don't let it go to waste. My BMI is sitting at 23 and I eat what I want about 6 days a week.