Why Doesn’t Dak Start?

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Every time he’s the quarterback good things happen. His pass completion percentage is insane and he actually throws the ball downfield. He can run the read option and he is a threat with his legs if he keeps it. When he is a receiver we almost never throw to him so what is he gaining (what does the team gain) by not playing quarterback? The Duke’s Mayo Bowl was not a fluke and his performance was perfection. Rattler hasn’t risen to the occasion.
 

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Cause we have a 10 year history of only playing one QB.........even if we're down 35 or up 35. It's a fad Muschamp started that Shane is continuing. No QB gets any snaps other than the starter. Would hate to get someone some game experience. I know most college players really love to practice with no chance of ever getting into a game:confused:
 

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Cause we have a 10 year history of only playing one QB.........even if we're down 35 or up 35. It's a fad Muschamp started that Shane is continuing. No QB gets any snaps other than the starter. Would hate to get someone some game experience. I know most college players really love to practice with no chance of ever getting into a game:confused:
Truth!
 

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Every time he’s the quarterback good things happen. His pass completion percentage is insane and he actually throws the ball downfield. He can run the read option and he is a threat with his legs if he keeps it. When he is a receiver we almost never throw to him so what is he gaining (what does the team gain) by not playing quarterback? The Duke’s Mayo Bowl was not a fluke and his performance was perfection. Rattler hasn’t risen to the occasion.
We can only use the Dak scheme so much. The element of surprise makes it work. If we ran it every play, average defenses can stop it.
 

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We can only use the Dak scheme so much. The element of surprise makes it work. If we ran it every play, average defenses can stop it.
There is no evidence to support that, respectfully. Let’s let Dak play until someone actually shuts him down, then adjust.
 
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Because we can’t block consistently against good teams we need to run the read/option and we need Dak and Doty to run it. Implementing the read/option helped the Head Ball Coach overcome exactly what we’re dealing with now.
 
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Enough about Joyner - He's had multiple OC's and NOT one has thought he was good enough to play the QB position. These people have seen him practice everyday since he's been here and NOT one has thought he was the best option. So, LET IT GO IT AIN'T HAPPENING
Muschamp and staff should have moved him to safety where he could have showcased his talent these last few years.
 

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Enough about Joyner - He's had multiple OC's and NOT one has thought he was good enough to play the QB position. These people have seen him practice everyday since he's been here and NOT one has thought he was the best option. So, LET IT GO IT AIN'T HAPPENING
Muschamp and staff should have moved him to safety where he could have showcased his talent these last few years.
So all of the horrible OC’s we’ve had didn’t see the appropriateness of making him a starting quarterback? That’s the best endorsement he could possibly have!
 
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Every time he’s the quarterback good things happen. His pass completion percentage is insane and he actually throws the ball downfield. He can run the read option and he is a threat with his legs if he keeps it. When he is a receiver we almost never throw to him so what is he gaining (what does the team gain) by not playing quarterback? The Duke’s Mayo Bowl was not a fluke and his performance was perfection. Rattler hasn’t risen to the occasion.
Cause he's not a QB and never will be.
 

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Prime Tom Brady wouldn’t be the solution in Marcus Satterfield’s offense. Who’s playing QB simply doesn’t matter in
Enough about Joyner - He's had multiple OC's and NOT one has thought he was good enough to play the QB position. These people have seen him practice everyday since he's been here and NOT one has thought he was the best option. So, LET IT GO IT AIN'T HAPPENING
Muschamp and staff should have moved him to safety where he could have showcased his talent these last few years.
Safety? Seriously?
 

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Anyone who dismisses Dak as a quarterback for a perceived “lack of arm strength” — Spencer has that and his average pass is about six freaking yards — and a HUGE number of his passes are screens.
 
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There is no evidence to support that, respectfully. Let’s let Dak play until someone actually shuts him down, then adjust.
Let me offer you some evidence. If you were a DC, when Dak #5, came in. Would you play you safeties and CB’s in the same place? Opposing coaches know he seldom throws. He is there to run. Change of pace works for him. I would like to see him play more, but not as an every play QB.
 
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So all of the horrible OC’s we’ve had didn’t see the appropriateness of making him a starting quarterback? That’s the best endorsement he could possibly have!
Let me see if I understand. Two coaching staffs with multiple OC's doesn't play the best available QB... hummm I guess they want to lose.
 

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Average defenses are stopping us now.
yes, I agree. i think we are sort stuck with the offensive scheme we have. This team has spent most of its practice time working on it. In most cases what you practice is your best bet. I agree, Rattler has not performed, but to change to a running QB type of offense, will not change much.
 

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Every time he’s the quarterback good things happen. His pass completion percentage is insane and he actually throws the ball downfield. He can run the read option and he is a threat with his legs if he keeps it. When he is a receiver we almost never throw to him so what is he gaining (what does the team gain) by not playing quarterback? The Duke’s Mayo Bowl was not a fluke and his performance was perfection. Rattler hasn’t risen to the occasion.
Bo, it ain’t going matter until we have a solid o-line and a top notch play caller. Bottom line we have somebody trying to teach Rattler a pro-style offense and don’t appear to know what he’s doing himself. Hell, even Rattler have said it didn’t seem like we were probably prepared offensively for a certain game!!! 👀
 

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Enough about Joyner - He's had multiple OC's and NOT one has thought he was good enough to play the QB position. These people have seen him practice everyday since he's been here and NOT one has thought he was the best option. So, LET IT GO IT AIN'T HAPPENING
Muschamp and staff should have moved him to safety where he could have showcased his talent these last few years.
He looked the best yesterday.
 

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Beamer needed some splash on the recruiting front. May have made some promises to Rattler.

I hope he didn't, but it looks that way.
 
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As shaky as Rattler has been, I don't see any other QB on our roster making any difference in our current win total. 3 of our 4 losses have been wipeouts. The only one we might have had a shot in with better overall offensive play was Mizzou, but I don't think even in that one any of our other QBs would have made a difference.
 
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Every time he’s the quarterback good things happen. His pass completion percentage is insane and he actually throws the ball downfield. He can run the read option and he is a threat with his legs if he keeps it. When he is a receiver we almost never throw to him so what is he gaining (what does the team gain) by not playing quarterback? The Duke’s Mayo Bowl was not a fluke and his performance was perfection. Rattler hasn’t risen to the occasion.
Agreed!
 

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Let me offer you some evidence. If you were a DC, when Dak #5, came in. Would you play you safeties and CB’s in the same place? Opposing coaches know he seldom throws. He is there to run. Change of pace works for him. I would like to see him play more, but not as an every play QB.
We are just so unimaginative and lame. We could bring Dak in as a WR, get them used to seeing #5. Then suddenly switch with Rattler for a few plays. But nope, we are too lame to even try another QB ever. We are gonna throw the same screens until we go 6-6 and play some low level bowl.
 
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Dak is one of those guys who makes things happen when the ball is in his hands whether QB, RB, WR, etc... This guy was compared to Lamar Jackson (who we would have likely moved to safety, CB, WR lol) at one time. Our refusal to use him in any meaningful way this year is mind boggling.

Our most successful years came under a dual threat QB and we absolutely refuse to make it a meaningful part of our offense since. A dual threat QB is one of the hardest things to game plan for and can absolutely wreck a defense. We just watched Richardson. Watch what Hooker does this week with both his arms and legs. I watch teams around the country every year design offenses around a dual threat QB and win ball games. Who cares about PRO style, this is college. Design an offense that puts these guys in space to make plays!











 
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At this point, why not? Doing what we've done the first 10 games isn't working. I don't think Dak would have been successful as a season-long starter at QB, but let's try the bowl game offense again. What is there to lose at this point? At the very worst, it's ineffective, which means it'll be as effective as what we've been doing all season.
 

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At this point, why not? Doing what we've done the first 10 games isn't working. I don't think Dak would have been successful as a season-long starter at QB, but let's try the bowl game offense again. What is there to lose at this point? At the very worst, it's ineffective, which means it'll be as effective as what we've been doing all season.

If it works for a game as a surprise, what's the one game you use it on?

A game against UT or CU that we most likely lose badly anyway, or the bowl game where you get to end on a good note and get some momentum for the offseason?
 

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Dak is one of those guys who makes things happen when the ball is in his hands whether QB, RB, WR, etc... This guy was compared to Lamar Jackson (who we would have likely moved to safety, CB, WR lol) at one time. Our refusal to use him in any meaningful way this year is mind boggling.

Our most successful years came under a dual threat QB and we absolutely refuse to make it a meaningful part of our offense since. A dual threat QB is one of the hardest things to game plan for and can absolutely wreck a defense. We just watched Richardson. Watch what Hooker does this week with both his arms and legs. I watch teams around the country every year design offenses around a dual threat QB and win ball games. Who cares about PRO style, this is college. Design an offense that puts these guys in space to make plays!












I'm with you all the way on this. Makes no sense to anyone who is thinking critically and objectively.
 

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If it works for a game as a surprise, what's the one game you use it on?

A game against UT or CU that we most likely lose badly anyway, or the bowl game where you get to end on a good note and get some momentum for the offseason?

I don't feel good about us winning any remaining games, so go ahead and give it a shot in front of a raucous home crowd this weekend.
 
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