Why not Pat Fitzgerald from Northwestern as our new DC? Awesome linebacker coach for LBU!

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Alleged hazing at NW listed below. Decide for yourself if this gets Fitz cancelled forever as a college coach.

"Running": A punishment that "consisted of 8-10 upperclassmen, dressed in masks, holding down a player, and dry humping the player in a dark locker room."
"Shrek claps": When "upperclassmen on the team would run around" a player who made a mistake in practice "while clapping their hands above the head" of the teammate.
"Carwash": A "tradition" that consisted of "players lining up, standing naked, and spinning around the entrance of the showers so that all freshman players were forced to rub up against the line of men to get to their showers."
"Naked center-quarterback exchange": Another "tradition" that called for freshmen to execute a routine center-quarterback snap while both were naked.
"Gatorade shake challenge": When freshmen were forced to drink as many Gatorade shakes as possible in 10 minutes, and if they refused they would be subjected to "running."
If you don’t see any issue with some of these activities then you are a sick mofo.
 

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My hope is it is someone with the same defensive philosophy as Diaz. Truth be told he brought an aggressive, physical, style of defense we haven't seen since Sandusky.
This is why I think Poindexter would be the logical choice. Diaz was known to coach aggressive defense and he delivered. In today’s high scoring game, you can’t sit back to defend, you have to be aggressive. That’s why Bradley and Pry’s defenses bothered me sometimes. The soft zone, bend don’t break defense is more likely to get exploited with today’s offenses.
 

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If you don’t see any issue with some of these activities then you are a sick mofo.

WTF is their obsession with nudity and nude hazing?

As for Poindexter, he is very well regarded and has playcalling experience as a DC. He had two solid years at UConn relative to their talent. I think Lynn would have been interesting but seems like this is the movie that makes the most sense, especially since he just spent two years working with Diaz.
 

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WTF is their obsession with nudity and nude hazing?

As for Poindexter, he is very well regarded and has playcalling experience as a DC. He had two solid years at UConn relative to their talent. I think Lynn would have been interesting but seems like this is the movie that makes the most sense, especially since he just spent two years working with Diaz.
Yup. Make Dex the DC. Promote Connor to LB coach. Keep rolling.
 
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Different strokes for different generations, Tinkerbell.

sorry, but I think the joke is on you. I'm in an older generation. And years ago, when I heard reports from fellow athletes as to what they had been through (in terms of hazing), or later when friends told me what they had experienced back in the day (in terms of hazing), I just laughed and didn't think too much about it, as it was pretty much expected.

One of the advantages of age, if put the effort in, is that you have experience, more information, and learn from it. Hazing has proven to be pretty disgusting, and is illegal in most states. In addition, most schools (high school and college) have policies against it.

USA society has evaluated hazing, and found it to be bad. Pretty much any time reports of it appear, the coach of the respective program resigns or is fired.
 
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Yeah, the Fitz idea has to get a 'hell no'. There are a lot of better men and better coaches out there.

It’s PSU. You conduct a “NATIONAL. SEARCH. o_O “, and then you promote from within.
Don't we also hire another dean and create a Board committee?
 
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Fitzgerald is more than likely done as a college coach unless something drastic changes in the next 12 months. Either he knew about it and condoned it, in which case he never needs to be around anyone under the age of 21 every again. Or he didn't know about it, which means he didn't know what was going on in his own program.

With that being said, he's still a good football coach and shouldn't be blackballed completely. If he's willing, he'd probably be a good NFL coach.
 

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Different strokes for different generations, Tinkerbell.
So, you have no issue with dudes holding another dude down and rubbing on them or forcing guys to go through a line of naked men with their schlongs out, or forced naked QB/center exchanges, but you call me tinkerbell? Got it. You fall into the category of “dirty old man”.
 
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So, you have no issue with dudes holding another dude down and rubbing on them or forcing guys to go through a line of naked men with their schlongs out, or forced naked QB/center exchanges, but you call me tinkerbell? Got it. You fall into the category of “dirty old man”.
Maybe not, he could be into that sort of thing? I still remember the HS recruit (name escapes me) for PSU who committed and then ended up at Ole Miss because their HS team hazing was sexual assault with a broomstick IIRC.
 

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That's a pretty ignorant statement to make.

Hazing is illegal in the State of Illinois

Hazing is against the policy of Northwestern. The policy specifies that acts of hazing, or failure to report acts of hazing, may cause individuals or groups to face disciplinary sanctions up to and including removal from the University.

Hazing took place in the NW football program while Fitzgerald was head coach. It appears that it was rather widespread, and as such a failure under his leadership.

Despite what you indicated, there is nothing woke about hazing.

If I recall correctly, Fitzgerald sued NW in October for illegally breaching his employment contract and an oral contract. As long as that suit is unresolved, I don't think that any university will be entertaining the idea of employing Fitzgerald.

This is the best response.

Like I said before, at best he was ignorant of it, which shows he’s a pretty poor coach not knowing what’s going on in his own locker room.

At worst he knew and condoned it, which should disqualify him from ever coaching at the college level again.

Either way, laws were broken and policies were violated. Guess what? That has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with personal responsibility.
 

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Fitz has shown himself to be arrogant and dismissive of Penn State. Don't want a clash of coaching egos spoiling the environment/team chemistry.
Actually, he was very supportive of JoePa and Penn State during our toughest times.
 

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That's a pretty ignorant statement to make.

Hazing is illegal in the State of Illinois

Hazing is against the policy of Northwestern. The policy specifies that acts of hazing, or failure to report acts of hazing, may cause individuals or groups to face disciplinary sanctions up to and including removal from the University.

Hazing took place in the NW football program while Fitzgerald was head coach. It appears that it was rather widespread, and as such a failure under his leadership.

Despite what you indicated, there is nothing woke about hazing.

If I recall correctly, Fitzgerald sued NW in October for illegally breaching his employment contract and an oral contract. As long as that suit is unresolved, I don't think that any university will be entertaining the idea of employing Fitzgerald.
Thanks, Tom. Over the past year or so my experience has been that posters who are either too lazy to do factual research on a subject or too biased by their own rigid political views to think for themselves fall back on the "easy" explanation --- it's "woke".
 
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He's mocked Bill O'Brien, for instance. We can agree to disagree on PF's potential as our DC.
I wasn't supporting him as a candidate for DC. I was correcting your comment that he was "arrogant and dismissive toward Penn State".
 

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I think Franklin has evolved. You conduct a “NATIONAL. SEARCH. o_O “, and then you pick the DC with the best hair.
Posting the job and a process is required by HR policy, I would presume. That would not, of course, not preclude hiring in house....but only after the policy is followed.
 

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Posting the job and a process is required by HR policy, I would presume. That would not, of course, not preclude hiring in house....but only after the policy is followed.
There is a difference between posting a job (passive) and conducting a national search (active). First is often policy, second not.

When filling coaching vacancies, I've seen PSU post the job after it's filled.
 

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Posting the job and a process is required by HR policy, I would presume. That would not, of course, not preclude hiring in house....but only after the policy is followed.

Do you have a link to the job posting? Asking for me.
 
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I wasn't supporting him as a candidate for DC. I was correcting your comment that he was "arrogant and dismissive toward Penn State".

And I countered with an example of his later attitude towards the Penn State head football coach. Peace out.
 

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Include me when you make a list of people confused by the Bill O'Brien fan club.

FTR, I view BOB as a good bridge between IT and the current situation of Penn State football. Give huge credit to Mauti et al. but BOB provided a point around which the bruised fanbase and team could coalesce. He stepped into a situation many others refused to consider. Deserves respect for that.
 
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FTR, I view BOB as a good bridge between IT and the current situation of Penn State football. Give huge credit to Mauti et al. but BOB provided a point around which the bruised fanbase and team could coalesce. He stepped into a situation many others refused to consider. Deserves respect for that.
Agree with the first part, but I don't necessarily give him respect for clearly taking a job he was using as a stepping stone.
 
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FTR, I view BOB as a good bridge between IT and the current situation of Penn State football. Give huge credit to Mauti et al. but BOB provided a point around which the bruised fanbase and team could coalesce. He stepped into a situation many others refused to consider. Deserves respect for that.
I have a different view. I realize it doesn't mean others have to agree. BOB was a journeyman college assistant coach. He rubbed against Tom Brady during an era that NE was winning SB. He didn't get a HC position after NE lost the Super Bowl and "settled" for the PSU position. He never had any intention of staying. He jumped at the first opportunity to grab a HC job in the NFL.
He has proven to be that sort of journeyman ever since. I can't think of anyone who has procured more wealth by doing less in the coaching profession than BOB.
PSU BOT used him and he used PSU.
I give a "ton" of credit to Mauti and others who were Paterno recruits , young men of commitment and character for saving football here. To me BOB was okay. Again, I just don't see the hype. I can let it at "a good bridge."
 

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Whatever works for you . . .
It works because it's true. He jumped at the first chance he got for NFL money. I don't blame him and don't hold it against him, but I'm not going to give him any respect for taking the PSU job.
 

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This is maddening. BOB said from Day 1 that the NFL was the pinnacle of the coaching profession. He never once said how long he was going to stay at PSU. He could have ran when sanctions were levied. He stayed and made the most of it and from what the players from those two years say, he was a really good coach and mentor for them. I found him to be a breath of fresh air into a program that needed it. It just happed under unusual and unfortunate circumstances. At this point, if anyone still has an issue with him, that’s on them.
 
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New buzz seems to be Geoff Collins. Great recruiter, minister of mayham DC @ Miss State and Florida. Stumbled as HC @ GT.
Great recruiting, attacking D and tons of experience...sounds familiar?
 

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This is maddening. BOB said from Day 1 that the NFL was the pinnacle of the coaching profession. He never once said how long he was going to stay at PSU. He could have ran when sanctions were levied. He stayed and made the most of it and from what the players from those two years say, he was a really good coach and mentor for them. I found him to be a breath of fresh air into a program that needed it. It just happed under unusual and unfortunate circumstances. At this point, if anyone still has an issue with him, that’s on them.
You might want to talk to Hack's parents about BOB's promises on how long he would be at PSU.
 
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