Why would any wr go to OM before us? Hell, they only
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Pass Offense before the bowl:
Ole Miss - 2673
MSU - 1732
On top of that, we lose 1498 of those receiving yards off this year's team. You lose I believe 116 of those receiving yards. So, I might ask you the same question...why would ANY WR consider going to MSU over Ole Miss? It's clear to me that not only did we throw it a good bit more this year, but we have a whole lot more catches and yards that will be open for the taking next year.
By the way, Bumphis had less than 200 yards more receiving than Patterson this year despite being one of your primary receiving targets. Patterson had to play behind veterans, was the 5th option, and still wasn't all that far behind Bumphis.
Ole Miss - 2673
MSU - 1732
On top of that, we lose 1498 of those receiving yards off this year's team. You lose I believe 116 of those receiving yards. So, I might ask you the same question...why would ANY WR consider going to MSU over Ole Miss? It's clear to me that not only did we throw it a good bit more this year, but we have a whole lot more catches and yards that will be open for the taking next year.
By the way, Bumphis had less than 200 yards more receiving than Patterson this year despite being one of your primary receiving targets. Patterson had to play behind veterans, was the 5th option, and still wasn't all that far behind Bumphis.
Because Relf has a greater passing efficiency than Snead.RebelBruiser said:
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Bumphis had 20 more catches than Patterson and we had absolutely no QB. We get the ball to our young receivers and allow them to try to make plays. Hell Heavens had about the same touches as Patterson.
And that's why you'd come to State.
Its not like Patterson is languishing behind some studs after Hodge--Bradon Bolden was the third leading receiver.
And I just looked--of Patterson's 12 catches, half were against 1AA opponents and 2/3 of his yds were against them. He was irrelevant in the offense.
And that's why you'd come to State.
Its not like Patterson is languishing behind some studs after Hodge--Bradon Bolden was the third leading receiver.
And I just looked--of Patterson's 12 catches, half were against 1AA opponents and 2/3 of his yds were against them. He was irrelevant in the offense.
We have put WRs in the league, have the leading conference receiver, and you haven't had a relevant receiver since 1994.
Tyler Russell for 4 years > than Stanley
Mullen's passing game > than Nutt's
And the added bonus of no KKK rallies on the MSU campus.
Also, 41-27
Mullen's passing game > than Nutt's
And the added bonus of no KKK rallies on the MSU campus.
Also, 41-27
I'm guessing that you're counting Micheal Spurlock as a "WR developed at Ole Miss".
Heck, we put Lance Long in the league with Croom.
Heck, we put Lance Long in the league with Croom.
Are the Rebel trolls on here in full-force tonight? It's crazy how after they take a beatdown by our hands, then win a bowl game against a team without their best player they can't wait to come over here and show their ***...
I know u was asking a question, but u was also stating your opinions. Was just telling u to hang onto them, cause Sanders and others WILL be at Ole Miss. Man, Ole Miss sure is getting alot of postive press tonight on espn. Bet those recruits are listening.Thick said:
will be better. By the way "Literally a **********", your back ups are not proven either. Your so called veteran wr's are no better than ours, and we have a legit tightend that we throw to you don't even acknowledge that position under Nutt! We will see how well you perform McClusterless next year.
You didn't have as many options, so Bumphis got touches. Yes, your QBs sucked, but regardless, if you're a WR, you go to where the team is actually throwing the ball today, and where there are actually plays to be made. If you're an incoming WR, you're not going to take away Bumphis's touches, so whose touches are you going to get? It's really an easy sales pitch if you want to get into the numbers.
And yes, our two leading receivers were Shay Hodge and Dexter McCluster, both which are better than anything you had, which is why Patterson didn't get the touches and Bumphis did. If you had had a Hodge and McCluster, they'd have been your go to guys as well.
And yes, our two leading receivers were Shay Hodge and Dexter McCluster, both which are better than anything you had, which is why Patterson didn't get the touches and Bumphis did. If you had had a Hodge and McCluster, they'd have been your go to guys as well.
Thick said:
That's where you are a dumbass. Hodge is one of the elite receivers in the SEC, and McCluster is the best WR/RB combo in the SEC. As far as TE is concerned, my discussion was on WRs.
We're losing a lot next year, yes, but that's what you want to see if you're a player wanting to come in and play immediately. Why was Bumphis able to play immediately? Because you didn't have anyone on your team that was worth a **** at his position.
Point being, we actually threw the ball a lot this year, you ran the ball more than any team in the SEC (by percentage), and you want to tell me that should be attractive to a HS WR, especially when you lose basically nothing at the WR spot?
but don't try to act like Patterson had a comparable year to Bumphis but then say that he couldn't get touches b/c of Hodge or Mcluster.
You can't have it both ways.
The bottom line is that Patterson was irrelevant in the offense and with the way Snead stared down Hodge all year, you would think Patterson would have been more involved in an effort to find some other vertical threats.
You can't have it both ways.
The bottom line is that Patterson was irrelevant in the offense and with the way Snead stared down Hodge all year, you would think Patterson would have been more involved in an effort to find some other vertical threats.
We can't talk **** about WRs and passing offense until we actually start successfully putting up some passing yardage. Until then, we sound like dumb asses acting as if MSU is the established program for passing prowess. We may have some upside, but nothing to talk **** about.
Why would receivers go to Ole Miss? Because we throw the ball, and because they see Ole Miss receivers being drafted. At State... not so much.
Bukowski said:
is a soon to be NFL receiver? You might want to notify Mel Kiper, Jr. because I think he missed that one.
ckDOG said:
we are running an offense that is primarily 3-5 WR sets. This was our first year to install this offense and we ALL know why we didn't throw as much- we had a ****** midget QB, a pot head hitting port-a-potties, and a guy named Anthony Dixon. If we didn't run the ball as much as we did, we would have been incredibly stupid.
Todd4State said:
While I agree with everything you said, we still have not demonstrated a pass happy, WR offense. Everything you just said is hypothetical, the same way that they can hypothetically say that they will have a better passing offense than us next season, or the same way many of us say that hypothetically their QB play will also suck next season.
The point is, they have a history of throwing it more, even if it was to 2 players. Why does that even matter? To be honest, I'm more worried about taking the momentum we got from beating that *** this season and bringing in some big "nasty" type players. Games are won on the lines in the SEC and I think Dan will be able to bring in some comptetent skill players, but we need the big uglies to win consistently.
Prime Time Receivers. Nobody outside of the Golden Triangle had ever heard of Justin Jenkins or Lance Long. Mike Wallace is a big time NFL receiver that has been all over SportsCenter this season making huge play after huge play. Vincent Sanders and others are seeing this, while also seeing that we have the best receiver in the SEC this season on our roster. We are getting players to the league, State is not (yet). Oher, Jerry, Wallace, Burgess (Pro Bowl), Manning (Super Bowl MVP), Willis (Rookie of the Year, Pro Bowl, and widely considered the best LB in the NFL), Espy, Biddle, Anderson, Lucas, Green-Ellis, Spurlock (Who Dat?), Palmer and even f-ing Jermey Parnell just in the past 7 years. McCluster, Lewis, Green, Jerry, Hardy, Hodge, and Trahan will be there in April. Recruits want to go to a school that can get them national rankings, prestige, bowl wins, and eventually to the League. In the state of Mississippi, Ole Miss is the only obvious choice.
You talk about getting WR's "to the league" and then it's shown to you that MSU actually has more WR's in the league than Ole Miss... then your story changes to any position... and this was debated on NAFOOM as well and MSU and OLE MISS have EXACTLY the same number of players on NFL rosters right now... none of the State grads are named Manning so I will concede that you guys win the popularity contest.
And what's with 7 years?? I mean I thought only State fans were king of the arbitrary timeline
Next year Ole Miss will without a doubt have more player in the NFL because O left you a ton of NFL talent... it will even back out within 4-5 years.
look at the 'informal' all decade team that the CL did, it was pretty close in number of star players and this decade was horrible for MSU.
Congrats on the Cotton Bowl, I am definitely jealous of that.
And what's with 7 years?? I mean I thought only State fans were king of the arbitrary timeline
Next year Ole Miss will without a doubt have more player in the NFL because O left you a ton of NFL talent... it will even back out within 4-5 years.
look at the 'informal' all decade team that the CL did, it was pretty close in number of star players and this decade was horrible for MSU.
Congrats on the Cotton Bowl, I am definitely jealous of that.
OM
Snead, Stanley, Cotton, Randall Mackey, Clayton Moore
State
Russell, Relf, Favre
If Mullen is as great as he is, I think you'd take Snead and have Mullen clean **** that's currently lodged between his ears.
Snead, Stanley, Cotton, Randall Mackey, Clayton Moore
State
Russell, Relf, Favre
If Mullen is as great as he is, I think you'd take Snead and have Mullen clean **** that's currently lodged between his ears.
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