Drebin coming in with all emotion and zero facts as usual.
Come on, please post his game stats and tell us how he 17'd us.
Will haters right now....
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Drebin coming in with all emotion and zero facts as usual.
Come on, please post his game stats and tell us how he 17'd us.
You people are ridiculous. I guess its Wills fault that we couldn't stop Arizona from marching all the way down the field. If we had thrown 10 more passes we woulda won by more. It doesn't matter what he does. You guys don't know sh*t about football if you are blaming Will.
The TO margin was 5-1.
I think you forgot about that terrible play we ran, with Will as the QB, on 4th and goal from the 4-yard line at the end of our first possession.
Remember . . . the play where Will threw the ball to our WR way too early because Will has zero running skills, and our dumb WR fumbled the ball into the endzone?
Agree.
Calling a read option with Will as the QB will never consistently work, because Will is never a threat to keep the ball and run it.
Surely, we can all agree on this, right?
Will could have done better, but he was not THE problem tonight. He was running away from pressure on several of the pass plays and handing the ball off the rest of the time. Will reading progressions is not a problem. All Will has done for the past 3 years is go through progressions. That is the Air Raid.
Blocking and play calling were the offensive issues last night.
Honest question. Would you swap will rogers performance for de Laura’s?
So a 3 yard gain on a check down is worse than throwing it out of bounds?
I've been frustrated with Will at times but you're right. What excitement had for Barbay is now all gone. He ain't got it.
If our qb played the same game as Arizonas qb today we would have 17ing lost. FACT.
Name 3 of those times.
Be specific. Time and quarter.
No. Read my post a little further down. Bourbon and rage got the better of me. I would trade playcallers though.
They lack balance bc you only point out the downfalls without be specific and you don’t point out the good.
Actually it was a good play call.
Pittman made a great play.
Will executed it. And executing a screen correctly isn’t exactly simple.
This is a fair post but saying will rogers is $h1t is dumb.
Or the stupid commentary from those who can’t point out the specific plays will was bad on.
Are you talking about the guy who threw 4 int’s?
I've learned over my many years of watching football that low football IQ fans always blame the QB for losses and miscues. There are 11 players on offense and football games are usually won and lost in the trenches. Will was sacked twice and some have screamed "he should have thrown the ball away". He was between the tackles both times with a defender hanging on. The best we could have hoped for with that idea is intentional grounding and worst intercepted. Yes, Will missed two wide open receivers early but that happens to every QB. They aren't machines. DeLaura threw 4 interceptions but they chanced the risks/rewards associated with the passing game while we abandoned them. This is the coaches perrogative and we have witnessed it during the "Alabama football years" of Jackie and Sylvester. If you were to talk with Barbay this morning his response would be, "What are you complaining about? We won didn't we?" Isn't that what it's all about after it is all said and done. If you believe this close win was Will's fault I suggest you go back and watch the game again with an open mind. BTW I haven't heard a single complaint about Wright's sack.
Say what you want about Will, but I feel like his play was our 5th or 6th worst problem last night.
I don't think anyone thinks we have Mahomes on the bench. I think people want a more dynamic dual threat qb. Granted Barbay was too conservative tonight and deserves most of the blame. Part of it was that we were gashing them early with runs and got the lead from turnovers. A few off throws stopped a drive after a bad penalty. That kept it from being 21-0. After the bad throws and sack Barbay kept running it. Too much up the gut. He wasn't balanced at all in his attack which is where we need to be. About 60-40. I kept looking at offensive numbers on the tron all night. Arizona and delaura was killing us. Had it not been for the turnovers they would have murdered us. Barbay needs to stick with qb and plan around that qb. The gimmick running a a qb on and off on hurts things. But with will in that limits ours options to just the back. If will is in we need to be throwing 60 percent of the time. It's predictable that marks is getting the ball. Very few ends rounds. A botched bad reverse. I would prefer we ran modified air raid this year. And then transitioned to a dual threat qb running a Riley style offense. Instead we a running a pro style offense.
It sounds like you folks wish we had Dak Prescott on the bench. He has left, and we have not signed another quarterback like him that is ready to play. There are the people hollering the want a quarterback that can run more. We ran the ball almost 40 times last night and still didn't do diddly. We passed for more yards than we ran for, so explain that logic to me. The biggest problem with our offense is the offensive line, and a few people (including me) pointed this out preseason. It doesn't matter who is playing quarterback if they can't be protected. We used to almost completely passblock. Now, they have to relearn how to block for the run and pass, and everybody thinks it will be easy to change that in one season. They may improve as the season progresses, but if you want our offense to improve, we can improve our offensive line. We could have Brady or Hurts as a quarterback if we don't have a line to support him he ain't going to do ****
Arizona had a dynamic dual threat who cost them the game.
Mums the word on Wright's sack. No mention of overcoming a holding penalty in OT either. All negatives on Will for some reason. Folks on here share their opinion then by gum it becomes their law. They won't be happy until Will is on the bench. Our fans have a low football IQ or maybe they are too drunk to see what is going on during the game. Will is the reason we won last night. Without those two pass plays we would have lost by 3.
And when we play Wright and he has sub par games they lose their collective minds again.
I would say he was the only reason they were in the game. High risk high reward player. I hate you guys that like the Payton manning style qbs can't see where the game has gone snd where you need to go if you want to put up points quickly. Dual threat qbs that can extend plays scramble and make throws are the top offensive producers. Go look at the top scoring offenses by stats. Leach style air raid qbs are not there. Pro style offenses are t there either. Pass only qbs are the past. So are run only qbs. If you want a dynamic offense you need to be running a modified air raid with s mobile qb that can scramble and throw on the run.
The air raid is a good offense when you have inferior talent. Mike Leach routinely beat teams with superior talent because of the quick strike ability. The problem that we have is we are in the first year of a transition with an air raid QB. Our coaching staff promised we would see some air raid tendencies with this offense. I hope they keep their promise going forward.
Okay outside of Texas in 08 what defensively good not even great team did air raid beat? That same team got beat by houston dale nutt and ole miss. They also lost to OU that year. OU go that arse handed to them by Florida that year.
wazzu well it was the pac 12. Defense the years that leach was there was a myth. And Washington killed them every year.
that version of air raid is as antiquated as the crap we ran last night up the middle and hope qb can get a 3rd and long pass
I can see a lot more about the game than you can. I assure you.
I want a mobile qb who is accurate and doesn’t make mistakes. But if you’d trade wills performance for their qbs performance I can’t help the kind of stupid you are.
If you can throw a 3 yard pass that goes for 30 or throw a 20 yard pass that goes for 30, you always pick the 3. Risk reward.
I can't help people that would like to have an unathletic qb that unless it was leach that started him wouldn't have ever seen the field in the sec. Anyone but leach would have buried him on the depth chart as a backup. We screwed up on the OC and qb transfer portal. Of course it doesn't matter if Barbay will only call hand offs up the middle
Yes, a coach that took his teams to bowl games 19 of 21 years and won 9 games 7 times was a has been with an antiquated offense which revived our program. Do you read the stuff you post?
Do you read the stuff you post? One dimensional offenses are things of the past and will never win big. You have to be balanced.
So he did NOT throw a TD pass that was over 20 yards in the air?
*waving my hands like I just don't care*
Not sure what game you were watching but holy hell if there is such a thing.
This isn't last year's season where Rogers could change a play. Every play called was on Barbay! Period.
Doesn't matter. It's the OC Barbay. It's his job to put them in the right position and he stood before the MSU fans and stated he would adpat to the talent on this team.
It's on HIM. Period!
He took a 76% passer and gave the ball to him 17 times. Nobody in the right mind does that. I have never seen that at any level.
It blows me away that we have people posting on here that can see 2 recievers wide open 30 yards downfield on every other play but Matt Wyatt doesn't see it, Will doesn't see it, the coaches must nor see it. It's easier to see when you don't have a DL in your face tho I guess. No doubt yall played QB back in the day. In junior high ?
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