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lemonears

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But, wait. There's more.


It seems like there are two types of players who head to the portal. The first type are players who think they deserve more playing time but aren't getting it. We have had many players of this type. The other type are players who have proven themselves at a lower level school and want to prove themselves in higher level competition and want to experience a top level college atmosphere. The 3 kids from pitt are of this type. They passed their audition at a MAC-level school and now what to try the real thing. This seems like a logical progression to me.
 

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As much as I hate Pitt, I hope they push the tampering angle and don’t let up. This reeks so bad and is terrible for cfb if this kind of stuff starts happening more.

Collectives operate *independently* from schools (snicker) - if a player can have an agent or representative fielding offers, how do you police that?
 
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Addison is a star. Would Mike Trout want to play for a minor league team if he had a chance to play in the majors? Addison probably worked hard to develop his skill. Why should he not get the chance to play for a big time program in a big time conference? Maybe he is sick of playing in front of 20K sleepy fans every week and would like to occasionally showcase his skills on national TV. Maybe Addison is tired of playing against cupcakes and wants to show the world that he can excel against big time teams. That could improve his draft status.

What would you do if you were Addison?
20 years ago he would have further refined his skills, competed and been drafted high with a lucrative contract and NFL stardom. Like Larry Fitzgerald. Today he first signs a lucrative contract, refines his skills, gets drafted with another lucrative contract and achieves NFL stardom. Such is life for top players in College these days.
 

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It seems like there are two types of players who head to the portal. The first type are players who think they deserve more playing time but aren't getting it. We have had many players of this type. The other type are players who have proven themselves at a lower level school and want to prove themselves in higher level competition and want to experience a top level college atmosphere. The 3 kids from pitt are of this type. They passed their audition at a MAC-level school and now what to try the real thing. This seems like a logical progression to me.
Sure, because we know that players at Pitt have no chance to prove themselves NFL worthy. Just ask Aaron Donald.
 

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Addison is a star. Would Mike Trout want to play for a minor league team if he had a chance to play in the majors? Addison probably worked hard to develop his skill. Why should he not get the chance to play for a big time program in a big time conference? Maybe he is sick of playing in front of 20K sleepy fans every week and would like to occasionally showcase his skills on national TV. Maybe Addison is tired of playing against cupcakes and wants to show the world that he can excel against big time teams. That could improve his draft status.

What would you do if you were Addison?
Nobody anywhere in this thread blames Addison. The issue is the environment which allows him to make such a switch. The intent of NIL has morphed into true free agency, which is what everyone is so upset about.
 

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This can't be allowed to continue, can it? Do the schools really want this? After all the schools as a collective ARE the NCAA.
 

LionJim

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This can't be allowed to continue, can it? Do the schools really want this? After all the schools as a collective ARE the NCAA.
They’d have to go to court to stop it, and I’d guess that most attorneys would consider this to be a losing proposition. SCOTUS has pretty much said that you can’t stop someone for paying a college student, for whatever reason.
 
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It seems like there are two types of players who head to the portal. The first type are players who think they deserve more playing time but aren't getting it. We have had many players of this type. The other type are players who have proven themselves at a lower level school and want to prove themselves in higher level competition and want to experience a top level college atmosphere. The 3 kids from pitt are of this type. They passed their audition at a MAC-level school and now what to try the real thing. This seems like a logical progression to me.
I totally agree. Addison is a special receiver and if he had gone to a higher level program he might have won the Biletnikoff Award last year and Pickett could have proven himself to be a 1st round draft pick, maybe even the 1st QB taken. And if they had come here they might have played for a top 20 team and won a Conference Championship. What the hell were they thinking?
 

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If players leave that have a nil deal do they have to pay it back and with penalty?
 

LionJim

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Seems like Addison’s production last year was Pitt’s return in their investment. Now he wants a better return for his efforts. The American way.
The American Way, yeah. In the end, you can’t push back on this fact.
 
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The American Way, yeah. In the end, you can’t push back on this fact.

Nope, young kid wants to maximize earnings as soon as possible. Let's face it, in 10 years he won't be playing football and it would be perfectly reasonable for him to look back and say "did I make as much money as possible when I had my highest earning potential. But this isn't a story of right or wrong, it's a questions of whether each fan wants chooses to support it literally($) and figuratively. Saying coaches leave all the time for more money doesn't make this any more desirable. I fundamentally have a problem with college football coaches making $7M a year. I think players should go to class, I don't think players deserve much more than scholarships. I don't think that football revenue should be funneled back into the football team only so that they can build bigger better facilities. This thing has jumped the shark way before Kelly went to LSU or Addison goes to USC. I don't like it, I don't think it was how college sports were intended to operate. I think there should be a separate league or consortium of schools that want to do this how it was done 30 years ago.
 

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What pisses me off about this whole thing is that the NCAA had 20+ years to figure out some type of framework to deal with compensating players. They could have started off with stipends two decades ago to keep things at bay while developing protocols for incorporating NIL into college athletics. Instead, they did absolutely nothing on the compensation front and hurt its goodwill by overreaching with PSU and doing nothing with UNC. So now we have the Wild West.

I'm not sure what the legal ramifications would be, but at a minimum there should be some type of "transfer fee" in situations like this. Player has to pay his original school 15-20% of NIL money in excess of what they earned at their original school for the remainder of their college career. Reimburses the original school for scholarship and costs incurred developing the player.
 

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Wait a second...is Pitt really a pre-season top 10 ranked team? Seemed like Pickett was their whole team last year and he's gone. Have they recruited well enough to justify this or is this a sign of how weak the ACC is?
 

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Wait a second...is Pitt really a pre-season top 10 ranked team? Seemed like Pickett was their whole team last year and he's gone. Have they recruited well enough to justify this or is this a sign of how weak the ACC is?
Read their message board. They should be a playoff team from what I read.

seriously, there are some great Pitt fans, my neighbor included. This is a sad day for college sports.
 
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I'm not sure what the legal ramifications would be, but at a minimum there should be some type of "transfer fee" in situations like this. Player has to pay his original school 15-20% of NIL money in excess of what they earned at their original school for the remainder of their college career. Reimburses the original school for scholarship and costs incurred developing the player.
Not to say any of that is necessarily bad but transfers would make the argument they were being treated differently than others. $1 million NIL kid would have to pay significant money if he left while the kid who nabbed the 85th scholarship and didn't land NIL money wouldn't have to pay a dime. Meanwhile, both received the same benefits associated with their scholarships. Since the universities aren't involved with NIL (cough, cough), they couldn't make the argument one kid cost them more in scholarship benefits than the other.
 

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Wait a second...is Pitt really a pre-season top 10 ranked team? Seemed like Pickett was their whole team last year and he's gone. Have they recruited well enough to justify this or is this a sign of how weak the ACC is?
Early polls had Pitt in the Top 10, likely due in part to an easy schedule.
 

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Nope, young kid wants to maximize earnings as soon as possible. Let's face it, in 10 years he won't be playing football and it would be perfectly reasonable for him to look back and say "did I make as much money as possible when I had my highest earning potential. But this isn't a story of right or wrong, it's a questions of whether each fan wants chooses to support it literally($) and figuratively. Saying coaches leave all the time for more money doesn't make this any more desirable. I fundamentally have a problem with college football coaches making $7M a year. I think players should go to class, I don't think players deserve much more than scholarships. I don't think that football revenue should be funneled back into the football team only so that they can build bigger better facilities. This thing has jumped the shark way before Kelly went to LSU or Addison goes to USC. I don't like it, I don't think it was how college sports were intended to operate. I think there should be a separate league or consortium of schools that want to do this how it was done 30 years ago.
Addison is the tip of the iceberg. Watch for Arkansas in the future to reveal a pool of $50 million dollars to hand out to portal transfers. My prediction, someday college programs like Arkansas, Oregon and T A&M will have donor payrolls larger than the Pittsburgh Pirates.
 

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I'm a little surprised that Texas hasn't made a bigger splash in all this.
Absolutely. I thought it would be either them or A&M but I guess A&M must already have their NIL for recruits oiled and greased.
 

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Addison is the tip of the iceberg. Watch for Arkansas in the future to reveal a pool of $50 million dollars to hand out to portal transfers. My prediction, someday college programs like Arkansas, Oregon and T A&M will have donor payrolls larger than the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Someday? They already spend more than the pirates.
 
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