I don’t think this staff is capable of coming up with a good game plan, or coaching the players well enough to execute it.
Wright/Rogers - Let's get this out of the way
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Because they are not all on the same page. From Top down... we are in a bad position.
Rogers is just an extension of Leach to the mouthbreathers. They hated Leach as coach because we didn’t RuNDaBaWl!!! enough. Now that Leach is dead, the only thing linking us to him is Rogers. So all the venom that went to Leach last year (as we were winning nine games and the Egg Bowl) is now solely going to Rogers. If Wright goes 9/22 for 78 yards with two picks against Arkansas, I predict they will be very quiet.
Yea this 4-8 stuff is so much better than that crappy 9-4 season last year, now we use a tight end.
A head coach hiring position coaches before the coordinator is just unheard of right?
Except when Leach did it when he hired Arnett
Sweet dancing Jehovah, I don't know how many times I have to say it. Comparing records is completely irrelevant when comparing the offenses. Statistically, the offenses are pretty similar with a smaller sample size this year. Defense was good last year, terrible this year. It really, really isn't that hard to understand with only a modicum of thought.
I agree with much of this, but there are definitely some of our fans that "know" with certainty that Rogers is the biggest issue with the offense and switching to Wright would be an improvement despite the coaches - who see them both every day - thinking otherwise.
I don't think those are the loudest voices anymore, but just like we shouldn't straw man people with the "Mike Wright the savior" thing, we shouldn't ignore the fact a vocal group of our fans have pinned the majority of our offensive issues on Will Rogers for much of the season.
That said, it would be awesome if Mike is the spark that turns things around, I'm just not expecting it.
sad thing is even after you posted this, there will still be "I told you so" posts.
I stopped reading after your statement that comparing Wins and Losses is irrelevant. if you aren’t selling used cars for a living, you missed your calling.
If so many fans know that Rogers is what is holding the offense back and that Wright will be a big improvement they should be ecstatic tomorrow because obviously if that is true surely we can beat a team that has lost 5 straight games. No more noodle armed feet in concrete system QB. If a mobile QB is the cure we will have it. Mike has all the intangibles and should run the RPO like a pro. By 3 pm tomorrow we should know. If the offense looks good I will admit I was wrong. I doubt anyone else here has the balls to tho.
Would you mind quoting some posts where people say they "know" this ? I've seen numerous people saying want to see Wright play/give him a chance but I haven't noticed anyone saying he was a sure "cure" for our problems.
What you don't understand is that with so many returning pieces on offense (QB, RB, bunch of WRs, entire OL), we should have taken another step on offense. And with the losses on defense, it's not entirely out of the question to take a step back on defense. But instead, we have made no improvement on offense (according to your stats), and went off the cliff on defense. And I would venture to say that any objective eye test view of the offense would yield that we were, in fact, better last year.
Arnett goes and changes the offense, disallowing the natural improvement from getting a year older, and allows the defense to badly regress. That's on him.
Or his stats were propped up by the system he was in before with 60 attempts s game with most behind the line of scrimmage
Let's not get crazy our line wasn't that great last year neither. The run blocking had gotten better each game outside of lsu. Our passing game sucked against lsu and bama
But remember it's the same exact players. Same guys that are almost all seniors. Which is another point about next year. Not one returning starter on the OL. A couple guys who have played but no starters
I really enjoyed our 9 wins and and wish coach Leach could have coached many more years here. Having said that, how many wins do you think we would have had last year with this year's defense ?
We scored 7 offensive points last year in 40 % of our power 5 games. We won the Ole Miss and Illinois games in spite of his **** tastic play. Overall wins aren’t a quarterback stat. We are losing this year from horrendous defensive play with the same offensive output.
I know you didn't read the whole post because you missed the last sentence about giving it a modicum of thought. It's pretty clear your analytical skills are non-existent so let me break this down for you in simple terms.
A football record incorporates a combined performance in Offense (that's when we have the ball), Defense (that's when the other team has the ball) and Special Teams (that's when the kicking stuff happens). You can have a good record and have a bad offense/good defense and vice versa. The discussion at hand is the performance of the offense, thus rattling off a team's record doesn't tell you how good or bad the offense is. If you are still confused, let me refer you to the 6-1 Iowa Hawkeyes.
And let's say we play your game for a second. Please refer to the chart below comparing last year's opponents (or equivalent) to this season.
| 2022 | 2023 | ||
| ETSU | W | SELA | W |
| Arizona | W | Arizona | W |
| LSU | L | LSU | L |
| Kentucky | L | South Carolina | L |
| Alabama | L | Alabama | L |
| Bowling Green | W | Western Michigan | W |
I'll let you check my math to confirm, but I count 3-3 for both?
Don’t know if MW will be successful or not, he does have a strange throwing motion. Considering our offensive line hasn’t been good for the last several years and the defense has been bad this year I’d keep our expectations very low tomorrow. It’s worth a shot at changing QBS, even it it’s due to an injury.
As long as it takes for the play to develop. You running a PA, then the average needed is 3 seconds.
I dnk if they are or not.... but they fought Bama and LSU tooth and nail. I was surprised arkansas lost to OM. But even that was a respectable game.
We were never close with LSU and Bama. I'm afraid of the games we have left, this game is our smallest chance to win.
look mom a retardNo game plan will ever work if a player can’t execute.
80% of fans can’t understand that difference.
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True… I think I’ve seen wright run about 5 plays… I sure hope he has more he can execute than that.
Are you counting FGs? I’m not pulling up the schedule from last year but that sounds wrong. We scores 7 offensive points or less in 4 P5 games?
Yes, we are just as well coached as last year, by gosh you’ve convinced me, we need to give Arnett and this wonderful coaching staff an extension. let’s lock them in before a blue blood steals them.
So since we are comparing records, we should finish up 9-4 right ?
I’m beginning to wonder if you are literally made of straw at this point.
I would be surprised to see this coaching staff put together a good game plan.
Everyone keeps wanting them to simplify the playbook for rogers. Leach ran 4 plays so weight can run one more than will. That would be the rpo where the qb runs or can pass. He's done that pretty well
I’ve given up on good. I’d accept a game plan, period
There really isn’t any facet of the game, on or off the field, that I feel like this coaching staff has covered