“Penn State launches website focused on free speech and free expression on campus”
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They should be allowed to protest, he should be allowed to speak.
The University (and it's students/staff) certainly benefits from a more diverse student population. If all we're looking at is grades or test scores, we're likely not getting that type of a cross-section. So call it what you will (DEI, Affirmative Action, etc), but I'd hope that we're looking beyond simply "performance" in a potential entrant's high school transcript. Or do we really think that a kid from the Main Line that got a 1300 on the SAT after his private schooling and SAT prep courses is automatically a better candidate for admission that the kid that went to Strawberry Mansion and saw SAT questions for the first time the day he took the test and got an 1100? It's not always black and white (and I'm not just talking skin colors).
I’m sure it will be more than simple protesting. Hopefully I’m wrong and they don’t physical do anything or shout him down every second that he speaks. Students have the right to listen to all view points freely and equally.
The fact that Kirk even has anyone that wants to listen to his BS is the more concerning issue.
Do students even read the Collegian anymore? Be better off with a web-based version and save paper hence being more eco-friendly to the environment.
Just read something this morning where his microphone and speakers were turned off because they didn't have permits for the use of them or something like that. I don't like this guy but do believe in freedom on speech and feel this is a ******** move by PSU. I am okay with counter protestors as well as long as it remains civilized and peaceful, but when you show up with helmets, masks over your face, and shields becomes a problem for me(not that they did that yesterday but just making a general statement)
https://onwardstate.com/2024/09/19/...s-cut-at-penn-states-turning-point-usa-rally/
Since this is the way the first amendment reads:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
There is no amendment that says PSU can't do what they want on their property.
https://onwardstate.com/2024/09/19/...s-cut-at-penn-states-turning-point-usa-rally/
Since this is the way the first amendment reads:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
There is no amendment that says PSU can't do what they want on their property.
Think someone @GrimReaper pointed out that schools that receive government funding are basically considered a government entity for first amendment purposes and cannot do ‘whatever they want’ when it comes to suppressing free speech. Might have interpreted that incorrectly.
More info here - didn’t have permit for speakers/mics it seems; only to distribute information….
For clarification, Supreme Court has held that "public" universities are extensions of the government and freedom of speech requirements extend to them. Same is not true of private schools. Distinction is important since virtually all schools receive some form of government funding. Pretty sure PSU is considered "public."
But,but, but…We Are!…STATE. RELATED.
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DoE classifies PSU as public. Go argue with the Feds.But,but, but…We Are!…STATE. RELATED.
* Please disregard for the purpose of state funding. In this instance, we are apubicpublic university. Thank you.
Interesting quote:
“Charlie Kirk is a very inflammatory guy. Whenever someone like that comes to campus, it’s almost like the organization that is hosting these people so that they can see reactions from the other side,” Lindsey, a graduate student, said. “Maybe we should invite more left-wing figures. I just feel it’s really one-sided right now. There’s no balance.”
Lindsey, you can invite anyone to campus that you want (except Louie Freeh, of course). In other words, the "we" in "we should invite" includes "you"..... assuming that you are willing to put forth some actual effort rather than just complaining.
“Charlie Kirk is a very inflammatory guy. Whenever someone like that comes to campus, it’s almost like the organization that is hosting these people so that they can see reactions from the other side,” Lindsey, a graduate student, said. “Maybe we should invite more left-wing figures. I just feel it’s really one-sided right now. There’s no balance.”
Lindsey, you can invite anyone to campus that you want (except Louie Freeh, of course). In other words, the "we" in "we should invite" includes "you"..... assuming that you are willing to put forth some actual effort rather than just complaining.
It’s also definitely to get a reaction. Pro trolling at its finest.
“Put forth some actual effort instead of just complaining”
That applies to many on this board also.
Isn’t the petition a form of peaceful protest? Isn’t that also protected under the constitution? Just because you don’t agree with it…..
