2021 Eagles Thread

nittanyfan333

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Oh man……. Quantitative FACTS



3. How many completions is A.J. Brown worth over Jalen Reagor? Think about the math. Let’s say Brown catches – conservatively – one pass per game that Reagor wouldn’t have caught. That’s 17 passes over an entire season. Just like that, those 17 extra completions turn Jalen Hurts from a 61.2 percent passer to a 65.3 percent passer. One more completion per game and Hurts has the 2nd-highest completion percentage in franchise history. You want a more accurate passer? Get him a more talented receiver.
 

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Oh man……. Quantitative FACTS



3. How many completions is A.J. Brown worth over Jalen Reagor? Think about the math. Let’s say Brown catches – conservatively – one pass per game that Reagor wouldn’t have caught. That’s 17 passes over an entire season. Just like that, those 17 extra completions turn Jalen Hurts from a 61.2 percent passer to a 65.3 percent passer. One more completion per game and Hurts has the 2nd-highest completion percentage in franchise history. You want a more accurate passer? Get him a more talented receiver.
This is just too much maths for me. Bring on football season!!
 

Grant Green

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Yeah, I probably should have started the new one after the schedules were released. I'll get to it in the next week.
 
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This an example of why we need a thumbs down icon on the like button
That seems to be a pattern piece where the author builds a worst case for all NFC East teams, but this team’s fortunes rest almost completely with Hurts. He wasn’t very good last season. It’s a huge wild card that could go either way. So it could be a very good season or a train wreck if Hurts continues playing like he did last year.
 
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That seems to be a pattern piece where the author builds a worst case for all NFC East teams, but this team’s fortunes rest almost completely with Hurts. He wasn’t very good last season. It’s a huge wild card that could go either way. So it could be a very good season or a train wreck if Hurts continues playing like he did at times last year.
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s1uggo72

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I’ve been boosting Hurst here but have seen zero pushback that Hurts needs to produce this year or else the Eagles move on.
my question is, then what? Garner Minshew (sp?) Nick Foles? draft a QB and start over? Retread ___________ fill in the blank.
 

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my question is, then what? Garner Minshew (sp?) Nick Foles? draft a QB and start over? Retread ___________ fill in the blank.
The Eagles would then start over, is what I would expect to happen.
 

WestSideLion

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The overall body of film from last year just isn’t very good. He’s a great kid who works hard and who you want to see succeed. But he’s not a good enough passer or visualized of the game. The film doesn’t lie.

The question is whether he can get there. To your other post, there are very few good options if Hurts fails. The Eagles put themselves in this bind.
 

Grant Green

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The Eagles would then start over, is what I would expect to happen.
Yeah, we've already gone over this. To most, it was clear when the Eagles traded a 2022 R1 for a 2023 R1 that they are positioning themselves to draft a QB next year if Hurts doesn't prove himself this season.

Starting over is not as big of a deal as it used to be. Guys like Wilson and Mahomes have proven that a good QB can win a super bowl on a rookie deal if all the other pieces are in place.
 

WestSideLion

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Yeah, we've already gone over this. To most, it was clear when the Eagles traded a 2022 R1 for a 2023 R1 that they are positioning themselves to draft a QB next year if Hurts doesn't prove himself this season.

Starting over is not as big of a deal as it used to be. Guys like Wilson and Mahomes have proven that a good QB can win a super bowl on a rookie deal if all the other pieces are in place.
And that’s still a risk, albeit one they must take. Two 1sts won’t get them into the top five (in most reasonable scenarios). So they’re looking at a guy in the 8-14 range. Who knows how that works out?

My personal preference would be to trade draft capital for an established QB vs rolling the dice on a draft pick. But that gets expensive.
 

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And that’s still a risk, albeit one they must take. Two 1sts won’t get them into the top five (in most reasonable scenarios). So they’re looking at a guy in the 8-14 range. Who knows how that works out?

My personal preference would be to trade draft capital for an established QB vs rolling the dice on a draft pick. But that gets expensive.
Who do you trade for? Anyone that is young (say, under 26) is not going to be on the table. Older players are risky as they are in the twilight of their career (Rogers, Brady, ...) or are midling (Carr, Tannehill, Jimmy G). Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson could be options, but are they that much better than Hurts?
 
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