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Just watched todays conference call with Nick. He was using lots of Coach speak and defended his assistants by backing them 100% etc. I hope I am wrong….but in my opinion he seems a bit lost with no clear answers about what went wrong the past several weeks. For me it is either of two things 1) there is so much wrong that he has to pick his poison with a fix on a few things while leaving other glaring issues masked. 2) He would never admit it…..but the team has flaws in personnel that he can’t properly fix till the off season. Netting it out….IMO….The birds will make the playoffs….but….will not make it past the 2nd game. Howie will need( post season) to fix the issue at Linebacker and multiple changes in the secondary. I am not sold with either offensive or defensive coaches …..but my SWAG….is that Nick retains both next season. As I mentioned in an earlier post I live in DFW and was at this game….I was amazed with how much better / faster the Cowboys played which I hate to admit.
 

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Just watched todays conference call with Nick. He was using lots of Coach speak and defended his assistants by backing them 100% etc. I hope I am wrong….but in my opinion he seems a bit lost with no clear answers about what went wrong the past several weeks. For me it is either of two things 1) there is so much wrong that he has to pick his poison with a fix on a few things while leaving other glaring issues masked. 2) He would never admit it…..but the team has flaws in personnel that he can’t properly fix till the off season. Netting it out….IMO….The birds will make the playoffs….but….will not make it past the 2nd game. Howie will need( post season) to fix the issue at Linebacker and multiple changes in the secondary. I am not sold with either offensive or defensive coaches …..but my SWAG….is that Nick retains both next season. As I mentioned in an earlier post I live in DFW and was at this game….I was amazed with how much better / faster the Cowboys played which I hate to admit.
People forget what a young coach Nick is. And his staff is young as well - save for maybe Stoutland. They may be in some shock right now. If you look at the play designs on offense, it's not great. Lots of slow developing routes where Hurts has to hang onto the ball for too long. That either causes him to panic and force throws or stresses the OL on protections.
 

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People forget what a young coach Nick is. And his staff is young as well - save for maybe Stoutland. They may be in some shock right now. If you look at the play designs on offense, it's not great. Lots of slow developing routes where Hurts has to hang onto the ball for too long. That either causes him to panic and force throws or stresses the OL on protections.
Agree on the youth aspect. Would love to bring in Frank Reich as a consultant assisting on game plan with Brian Johnson. Reich did not work out as a head coach…but….most respect his ability to work with QB’s and offensive schemes etc. he and Nick are very close…..I would not be surprised if a few calls have been made.
 
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People forget what a young coach Nick is. And his staff is young as well - save for maybe Stoutland. They may be in some shock right now. If you look at the play designs on offense, it's not great. Lots of slow developing routes where Hurts has to hang onto the ball for too long. That either causes him to panic and force throws or stresses the OL on protections.
It seems to me that opposing coaches have figured how to scheme AJB into a relative lack of productivity, relative to his productivity earlier in the season. Am I wrong? Is this a factor in Philadelphia calling “lots of slow developing routes where Hurts has to hang onto the ball for too long?”

I just remembered that Goedert has returned.
 

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Well I’ll say again NY having the refs pick up the holding flag on Dallas first TD was huge. of course you can’t put the ball on the ground 3 times either. Eagles need to go back to running the ball more. On D they need to set the edge harder
 

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It seems to me that opposing coaches have figured how to scheme AJB into a relative lack of productivity, relative to his productivity earlier in the season. Am I wrong? Is this a factor in Philadelphia calling “lots of slow developing routes where Hurts has to hang onto the ball for too long?”

I just remembered that Goedert has returned.
Having our TE back should certainly help. I also agree on the current plethora of slow developing plays. Would love to see quick pass short distance game if brown or smith get a clean slant pattern…..they could house it at any time. Get the ball out of Hurts hands quicker . Blend that in with a bit of RPO and you just might see Hurts regain the potential MVP status that he lost the past 3 weeks. On defense…. learn to ( with intent) tackle again. Having several consecutive games against quality NFC teams with 3 days more rest than they had equals tired legs. If we hold onto the ball and play offense with tempo….we have a good shot in Seattle . Continue our current pattern of slow starts and Seattle will truck us. PS: Telling stat ….at this point last season we were a plus 14…..as of now we are a negative 4 !
 
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I can’t tell if this is good or bad news

Bad. Very bad. Yes the back end has sucked this year but Slay has been the best CB of the group. And going up against metcalf and Lockett….. this is gonna suck. Hopefully the young guys can slow them down without PI Facemask penalties
 
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Good. Something had to be done. There’s no excuse for this D not being at least decent.

There’s a trail here for sure. D started going down hill a month or 2 ago, then got smoked the last 2 weeks. Granted the last 2 weeks were against high level offenses. But the players started to talk. And Byard seemingly forced Desai to hand gameplanning to the players.

If it was just the last 2 weeks I’d feel like this was a knee jerk. but take the last 2 months into account and it Sounds like a complete lack of confidence to me.

My concern is how does Desai take this being replaced by not another position coach or the head coach, but an analyst? This smells like a girl breaking up with you but telling you that you can keep living with her while her new boyfriend moves in. Weird and wide open for a ton of drama.
 

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There’s a trail here for sure. D started going down hill a month or 2 ago, then got smoked the last 2 weeks. Granted the last 2 weeks were against high level offenses. But the players started to talk. And Byard seemingly forced Desai to hand gameplanning to the players.

If it was just the last 2 weeks I’d feel like this was a knee jerk. but take the last 2 months into account and it Sounds like a complete lack of confidence to me.

My concern is how does Desai take this being replaced by not another position coach or the head coach, but an analyst? This smells like a girl breaking up with you but telling you that you can keep living with her while her new boyfriend moves in. Weird and wide open for a ton of drama.
Desai is obviously gone after this season. The tweet you posted tells the tale. His defense has been the worst in the league for several weeks. There is no excuse for that with the Eagles personnel.

I suspect a player mutiny. Nick had to make this change or he’d be at greater risk.
 

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There’s a trail here for sure. D started going down hill a month or 2 ago, then got smoked the last 2 weeks. Granted the last 2 weeks were against high level offenses. But the players started to talk. And Byard seemingly forced Desai to hand gameplanning to the players.

If it was just the last 2 weeks I’d feel like this was a knee jerk. but take the last 2 months into account and it Sounds like a complete lack of confidence to me.

My concern is how does Desai take this being replaced by not another position coach or the head coach, but an analyst? This smells like a girl breaking up with you but telling you that you can keep living with her while her new boyfriend moves in. Weird and wide open for a ton of drama.
Byard. I don’t trust. He hasn’t been here long enough to start dictating things. IMHO he is part of the problem
 

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Byard. I don’t trust. He hasn’t been here long enough to start dictating things. IMHO he is part of the problem

I could care less how long he’s been there. He’s a two time all pro, veteran player. If he walks through the door and sees something is wrong, I would hope he would do anything possible to try and fix it.
 
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I could care less how long he’s been there. He’s a three time all pro, veteran player. If he walks through the door and sees something is wrong, I would hope he would do anything possible to try and fix it.
I don’t think he’s preformed anywhere close to the credentials you sight. In fact I think he s been a weak spot
 

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I don’t think he’s preformed anywhere close to the credentials you sight. In fact I think he s been a weak spot

Agree. He hasn’t played well at all. However without being in the building I have no idea if that’s him or the scheme that has been bottom of the league since week 8. And with his credentials, he’s earned some benefit over his first time former DC
 

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Agree. He hasn’t played well at all. However without being in the building I have no idea if that’s him or the scheme that has been bottom of the league since week 8. And with his credentials, he’s earned some benefit over his first time former DC
Isn’t that about the time he showed up??
Plus Desai is not a first time DC
 
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