2023 Women's World Cup - USA team thread

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Except she won 2 WC’s and was a huge piece of the last one. Don't let that anger you though....it's a good thing for young women and this countries effort to move the sport forward. I've seen the best outside of maybe Jordan all lose and go down before. I love watching people root against the USA in the name of patriotism....it's awesome to see people do it. It's like those that root for PSU but want to see a player or HC fail so that they are "right".


comparing Rapino’s choke on a penalty kick to Buckner’s choke on a routine ground ball is a complement to Rapino as it shows the parity the women’s team wants.

If calling out a hypocrite for her contemptible behavior bothers you, get use to it. Free speech works both ways.
 

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comparing Rapino’s choke on a penalty kick to Buckner’s choke on a routine ground ball is a complement to Rapino as it shows the parity the women’s team wants.

If calling out a hypocrite for her contemptible behavior bothers you, get use to it. Free speech works both ways.
😂😂😂😂 Have at it with the 1st and go get her I guess. I think this time they stoked the folks looking to be outraged due to the team not all singing in unison. I mean she barely played and all non fans/certain media of the sport talk about is her, but not really her play which was subpar and has every right to be criticized. She wouldn't have been there minus injuries really.

If people want to pretend she had a bad career well they are basically saying they are clueless as her WC titles, gold medal, and awards kind of speak for themself. Wonder why and who leads ceratin people down that fake outrage path where it's patriotic to root against an entire US team and make villains out of US players? I don’t really as I know but maybe you can figure it out too.
 
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Buckner? His error came in the 6th game of a 7 game series, a series in which he played well. His error came after a wild pitch let in the tying run. Remember the pitcher’s name? Thought so.
Believe it was Bob Stanley…”behind the bag”

But you are right. Putting Buckner in the same category as Rapinoe isn’t fair to Buckner. Buckner was pure class. Same for Norwood.
 
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Rapinoe is one of the greatest and most accomplished American women in her sport, Buckner got 2% of votes in support of his HOF candidacy and was promptly dropped from the ballot. This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen on this board and I know because I’ve made some of the dumbest posts/threads.
 

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Fair take, but that was settled 2 years ago and the men’s team seemed just fine with it. The men also make their bread in Europe so it’s not as big a deal to most of the men’s team. Don’t support them, but never watch any pro sport where the anthem is sung as not everyone sings. That was the fake outrage this time, but you won’t see Megyn Kelly crying when not all men aren’t singing the anthem. Hell not all of the US men sing either at every match. It’s the phony outrage whipped up by certain media types that is funny to me. I’ll root for them next WC too as I did all the previous ones. To each their own.

I’ve attended not US men’s and women’s team matches. Never once did I look to see who was singing like most people. These whipped up outrages are cute but I’m over them and I can see them for what they are.

 

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Why didn't you post this one? It's great that we live in a country where our citizens can actually display displeasure with some things, but there a TON of countries where this couldn't occur. The Iranian men did it once...ONCE...and never again. You don't have to wonder what was said to them or their families....we all get that. Is that the better option, clearly some think so...not saying you in particular either FWIW.

I watch the sport for the sport, not the anthem. I'm proud I'm an American, I served, but I knew a long time ago our **** stinks too so I won't pretend we walk on water. It stinks a whole lot less for sure than most, but I haven't walked a mile in every persons shoes so maybe I may not see their perspective all of the time. For me to tell women or others not like to me to STFU or you better sing is a joke to me. I have no idea what their life experience is, but good fake outrage on social media is probably the best discourse. Shame them, berate them.....tolerance is for the weak....I get it. 🥱

For those who don't want to be triggered.....these men in USA uniforms didn't sing the Anthem so don't watch.



 
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The USWNT isn't just another pro sports team. They are representing the US on the world stage, and being disrespectful during the national anthem is just unacceptable. Perhaps they should represent some other country or just stay home? They need to be told that they will show respect or they will not be on the US National Team. They can protest all they want with their club teams, just not when they are representing the US.
 
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The USWNT isn't just another pro sports team. They are representing the US on the world stage, and being disrespectful during the national anthem is just unacceptable. Perhaps they should represent some other country or just stay home? They need to be told that they will show respect or they will not be on the US National Team. They can protest all they want with their club teams, just not when they are representing the US.

Standing at attention isn't disrespectful. Forcing patriotism is a sure sign your country has issues with actual freedom....just saying. I know I'd rather be in a country where it is tolerated to not sing than one where a punishment could occur....but maybe you can root for those countries using your logic.
 
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Again, it's not just some pro sports team. They are the US National Team.

Yes they are and they showed the world that in a free society you are actually allowed to not sing or sing if you choose. Some of the women sang and the others stood at attention. I think you could root for Iran or N. Korea if that is really your cup of tea. Iranian men chose not to sing one time and that was it. So there is your role model.....Captain America. Are you a woman, have you walked a mile in all of their shoes? Are you a gay woman? Are you a young black female? Could it be a little bit possible they see things differently than you do? Is that even possible? Scream away at them, but I don't yearn for the day where "forced patriotism" is the way of life, but some surely seem to think it is the way to go. That is just me....but you do you.
 
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Why didn't you post this one? It's great that we live in a country where our citizens can actually display displeasure with some things, but there a TON of countries where this couldn't occur. The Iranian men did it once...ONCE...and never again. You don't have to wonder what was said to them or their families....we all get that. Is that the better option, clearly some think so...not saying you in particular either FWIW.

I watch the sport for the sport, not the anthem. I'm proud I'm an American, I served, but I knew a long time ago our **** stinks too so I won't pretend we walk on water. It stinks a whole lot less for sure than most, but I haven't walked a mile in every persons shoes so maybe I may not see their perspective all of the time. For me to tell women or others not like to me to STFU or you better sing is a joke to me. I have no idea what their life experience is, but good fake outrage on social media is probably the best discourse. Shame them, berate them.....tolerance is for the weak....I get it. 🥱

For those who don't want to be triggered.....these men in USA uniforms didn't sing the Anthem so don't watch.





here’s the thing, Rapino and company will kneel for the US National Anthem but don’t for their opponents National Anthem. Why not kneel during the Netherlands anthem to bring attention to their racist history. Does China have a team and would they kneel during their anthem?
 
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here’s the thing, Rapino and company will kneel for the US National Anthem but don’t for their opponents National Anthem. Why not kneel during the Netherlands anthem to bring attention to their racist history. Does China have a team and would they kneel during their anthem?
I love your last question.....it's perfect. Thanks for basically making my point on why I love this country without you even knowing it. You can add N. Korea, Iran, and a host of other nations where not singing would/could be punishable. Good job as that screams freedom and the land of the free. The fact you asked if China has a team shows me you don't even watch the sport, but got triggered by news media or your social media feed.

This is all so new...isn't it?

 
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Why didn't you post this one? It's great that we live in a country where our citizens can actually display displeasure with some things, but there a TON of countries where this couldn't occur. The Iranian men did it once...ONCE...and never again. You don't have to wonder what was said to them or their families....we all get that. Is that the better option, clearly some think so...not saying you in particular either FWIW.

I watch the sport for the sport, not the anthem. I'm proud I'm an American, I served, but I knew a long time ago our **** stinks too so I won't pretend we walk on water. It stinks a whole lot less for sure than most, but I haven't walked a mile in every persons shoes so maybe I may not see their perspective all of the time. For me to tell women or others not like to me to STFU or you better sing is a joke to me. I have no idea what their life experience is, but good fake outrage on social media is probably the best discourse. Shame them, berate them.....tolerance is for the weak....I get it. 🥱

For those who don't want to be triggered.....these men in USA uniforms didn't sing the Anthem so don't watch.




I love your last question.....it's perfect. Thanks for basically making my point on why I love this country without you even knowing it. You can add N. Korea, Iran, and a host of other nations where not singing would/could be punishable. Good job as that screams freedom and the land of the free. The fact you asked if China has a team shows me you don't even watch the sport, but got triggered by news media or your social media feed.

This is all so new...isn't it?


There are a lot of strawmen here. First, the USA mens team were basically being told what to do back in 2020. That was marketing and virtue signaling. Also, I didn't see that any of them didn't sing in 2020, but again, its one thing to not sing because you don't like singing or you are concentrating for the game ahead. Rapinoe made it very clear why she wasn't singing.

Second, if you don't think there is a difference between 1968 and 2023, please read some books.

Third, as much as you wish to not believe it, I am not a rightie, im a lefty.

Fourth and finally, it doesn't really matter what you think. Most people in this country don't give a damn about the USWNT. And constantly signaling that you think your country is a badie isn't going to gain you any fans, which, if your are complaining unfairly that you aren't paid enough, alienating the very people who will help you get paid isn't going to help. They aren't uniting, they are dividing. And btw, there are examples of this on the other side as well. (in my opinion)

I never watched Nascar nor do I have a single smidge of interest, but if I did, all of the over the top Yay America stuff that goes on there makes me a bit queasy as well. It sort of gross, pandering and again, virtue signaling. I just want to watch the game.
 
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There are a lot of strawmen here. First, the USA mens team were basically being told what to do back in 2020. That was marketing and virtue signaling. Also, I didn't see that any of them didn't sing in 2020, but again, its one thing to not sing because you don't like singing or you are concentrating for the game ahead. Rapinoe made it very clear why she wasn't singing.

Second, if you don't think there is a difference between 1968 and 2023, please read some books.

Third, as much as you wish to not believe it, I am not a rightie, im a lefty.

Fourth and finally, it doesn't really matter what you think. Most people in this country don't give a damn about the USWNT. And constantly signaling that you think your country is a badie isn't going to gain you any fans, which, if your are complaining unfairly that you aren't paid enough, alienating the very people who will help you get paid isn't going to help. They aren't uniting, they are dividing. And btw, there are examples of this on the other side as well. (in my opinion)

I never watched Nascar nor do I have a single smidge of interest, but if I did, all of the over the top Yay America stuff that goes on there makes me a bit queasy as well. It sort of gross, pandering and again, virtue signaling. I just want to watch the game.
So the men were forced to do so which in your eyes would be wrong and “some” women sang this time with hands over their hearts so were they forced too? Of course they weren't and kudos to the ones that did. They had a choice to make and made one...that is actual freedom, is it not? Seems like people who don’t care about the sport sure seem to care whether or not some women sing or not apparently.

I know this is all media driven fake outrage, but I really don't care whether or not athletes sing or not. I'm just saying that forced patriotism isn't the answer IMO nor is it a sign that your country is somehow superior. Nobody cares about this sport, but I can link countless national media articles on this topic....probably dozens....and there are varying takes on it. That is a good thing in the end. If my point isn't clear by now...it will never be to some.
 
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Why didn't you post this one? It's great that we live in a country where our citizens can actually display displeasure with some things, but there a TON of countries where this couldn't occur. The Iranian men did it once...ONCE...and never again. You don't have to wonder what was said to them or their families....we all get that. Is that the better option, clearly some think so...not saying you in particular either FWIW.
I agree. We also live in a country where the right to criticize our national players is protected.


Are you a woman, have you walked a mile in all of their shoes? Are you a gay woman? Are you a young black female? Could it be a little bit possible they see things differently than you do? Is that even possible? Scream away at them, but I don't yearn for the day where "forced patriotism" is the way of life, but some surely seem to think it is the way to go. That is just me....but you do you.
Have you walked a mile in TiogaLion's shoes? I have not, nor have I walked in yours.

One thing that I miss from the old forum is the ability to add a signature line. My sig there was the following and I used it mainly as a reminder to myself. "The invitation to be outraged is in no way surprising in the social media age of journalism, where every complex issue is watered down to a series of polar viewpoints." -- Tom Acey
 
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I agree. We also live in a country where the right to criticize our national players is protected.



Have you walked a mile in TiogaLion's shoes? I have not, nor have I walked in yours.

One thing that I miss from the old forum is the ability to add a signature line. My sig there was the following and I used it mainly as a reminder to myself. "The invitation to be outraged is in no way surprising in the social media age of journalism, where every complex issue is watered down to a series of polar viewpoints." -- Tom Acey
Was he criticized for not singing? Was he a target of the media? Has anyone censored him for his take? Fake outrage is just that so we agree there. On one hand people say nobody cares about the women, but it appears to be the opposite. If saying people have a right to protest or simply not sing an anthem is polarizing, so be it. What was Sophia Smith protesting? Beats me, hell she may have even sang for all I know as I watch the matches and never really focus on the anthem. I didn’t take names on who sang or not or why they made that choice. Maybe that is public information, I honestly don’t know.
 
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Buckner never should have been in the game. Every game the Red Sox were ahead in the 7th inning or later he was replaced by Dave Stapleton for defensive reasons. The guy to be blamed was John Macnamara, manager, who said that Buck talked him out of replacing him saying he wanted to be on the field when the Sox won. People also forget there was a game 7 and the Sox were ahead in that game as well
 

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Was he criticized for not singing? Have I censored him? Fake outrage is just that.
How do you know if TiogaLion's outrage is fake? So what if it is? Just how authentic is your outrage towards TiogaLion?

Human nature + social media rarely results in an actual discussion. We, myself included, usually turn any discussion into perpetual wack-a-mole competition.
 

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Was he criticized for not singing? Was he a target of the media? Has anyone censored him for his take? Fake outrage is just that so we agree there. On one hand people say nobody cares about the women, but it appears to be the opposite. If saying people have a right to protest or simply not sing an anthem is polarizing, so be it. What was Sophia Smith protesting? Beats me, hell she may have even sang for all I know.
Stop editing your posts. You keep adding paragraphs after your "quoted" poster has already seen your initial reply. It quite annoying. Making a simple correction is one thing, but adding completely new thoughts needs to be a new post.
 

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Human nature + social media rarely results in an actual discussion. We, myself included, usually turn any discussion into perpetual wack-a-mole competition.
What is the actual discussion about? Should the women be forced to sing by the US Soccer federation? What is the desired outcome of those who were so hurt over this? If you don't sing the anthem with your hand over your heart, you cannot play? I'm honestly not sure what they want as an outcome, maybe it was just to say I don't like that. I'm not telling him to do anything like editing his posts or write an apology to anyone....just saying that they don't have to sing IMO.

I honestly don't know the motive of every single player, but I'm wrong for my take somehow? There is a back and fourth here so I'm not sure where you're actually heading with that line of questioning. I have posted articles showing the US men doing this, Iranian men doing this, but I'm holding back the discussion somehow or censoring people's free speech? I see a bit of hypocrisy in all of this and even more so from people that don't even watch it at all, but want to act like this was some crime against humanity and the American way.

Here is what one player said who was making her debut and had a good tournament. Is this unfair?

USWNT defender Naomi Girma explained that the players were solely focused on the football and nothing else when they stepped out onto the pitch. "When we're out there we're preparing for the game, that [the national anthem] isn't the focus
. Ultimately every player has the choice, that's all I have to say," said defender Naomi Girma- who impressed in her World Cup debut against Vietnam- during Monday's press conference.
 

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What is the actual discussion about? Should the women be forced to sing by the US Soccer federation? What is the desired outcome of those who were so hurt over this? If you don't sing the anthem with your hand over your heart, you cannot play? I'm honestly not sure what they want as an outcome, maybe it was just to say I don't like that. I'm not telling him to do anything like editing his posts or write an apology to anyone....just saying that they don't have to sing IMO.

I honestly don't know the motive of every single player, but I'm wrong for my take somehow? There is a back and fourth here so I'm not sure where you're actually heading with that line of questioning. I have posted articles showing the US men doing this, Iranian men doing this, but I'm holding back the discussion somehow or censoring people's free speech? I see a bit of hypocrisy in all of this and even more so from people that don't even watch it at all, but want to act like this was some crime against humanity and the American way.

Here is what one player said who was making her debut and had a good tournament. Is this unfair?

USWNT defender Naomi Girma explained that the players were solely focused on the football and nothing else when they stepped out onto the pitch. "When we're out there we're preparing for the game, that [the national anthem] isn't the focus. Ultimately every player has the choice, that's all I have to say," said defender Naomi Girma- who impressed in her World Cup debut against Vietnam- during Monday's press conference.

That is nice for Naomi Girma to have said that, but Megan Rapino has said differently and has said so very vocally.

Also, if I may, as a US soccer fan let me say, that if you are going to represent the country, and then go and say the things you say (Rapinoe im looking at you) and then complain that you are not making equal money, when you alienated a large percentage of the viewing public, and viewership equates directly to money, I'm sorry, I don't want to hear the complaining about money anymore.

Their "big" viewership numbers pale in comparison to the mens. USA had 16 million viewers for the game with Holland.

I want nothing but the best for this team. I want every single TV in the US watching them and cheering them on.
But this isn't going to get them there. It put them back about 10 years and they will have to dig out.

Also, as a side note, I HATE virtue signaling with out actually ever doing a damn thing to help the situation you claim you actually care about.
Is Rapinoe not refusing to sing going to do anything to help the situation she claims to want to help? No, it would be absolutely silly to think otherwise. So the question is, why. Because of her brand, thats why, it's shallow, it's stupid and it's meaningless.
 

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Human nature + social media rarely results in an actual discussion. We, myself included, usually turn any discussion into perpetual wack-a-mole competition.

What is the actual discussion about? Should the women be forced to sing by the US Soccer federation? What is the desired outcome of those who were so hurt over this? If you don't sing the anthem with your hand over your heart, you cannot play? I'm honestly not sure what they want as an outcome, maybe it was just to say I don't like that. I'm not telling him to do anything like editing his posts or write an apology to anyone....just saying that they don't have to sing IMO.

Our collective repetition has turned this into a perpetual wack-a-mole competition with no end in sight. I shall put down the padded hammer and let other discuss.
 

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That is nice for Naomi Girma to have said that, but Megan Rapino has said differently and has said so very vocally.

Also, if I may, as a US soccer fan let me say, that if you are going to represent the country, and then go and say the things you say (Rapinoe im looking at you) and then complain that you are not making equal money, when you alienated a large percentage of the viewing public, and viewership equates directly to money, I'm sorry, I don't want to hear the complaining about money anymore.

Their "big" viewership numbers pale in comparison to the mens. USA had 16 million viewers for the game with Holland.

I want nothing but the best for this team. I want every single TV in the US watching them and cheering them on.
But this isn't going to get them there. It put them back about 10 years and they will have to dig out.

Also, as a side note, I HATE virtue signaling with out actually ever doing a damn thing to help the situation you claim you actually care about.
Is Rapinoe not refusing to sing going to do anything to help the situation she claims to want to help? No, it would be absolutely silly to think otherwise. So the question is, why. Because of her brand, thats why, it's shallow, it's stupid and it's meaningless.
Ok, go get her. She is one piece and she triggers people. You find it meaningless. Do you speak for everyone? Do some people find value in what she did? I guess so because she still had commercial deals somehow. She was only there due to injuries really, but you just harp on her which is fine. I doubt you and her have identical takes either. I doubt my every take lines up with hers too. No problem there but what is the end game?
 
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Ok, go get her. She is one piece and she triggers people. You find it meaningless. Do you speak for everyone? Do some people find value in what she did? I guess so because she still had commercial deals somehow. She was only there due to injuries really, but you just harp on her which is fine. I doubt you and her have identical takes either. I doubt my every take lines up with hers too. No problem there but what is the end game?

Ok, so tell me, what value to her cause does it bring? I want a concrete example.
She can do whatever she wants by the way. But I roll my eyes when she complains about criticism.
 
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Ok, so tell me, what value to her cause does it bring? I want a concrete example.
She can do whatever she wants by the way. But I roll my eyes when she complains about criticism.
Are you not talking about her? What cause of hers bothers you? You still didn’t answer the end game and are only talking about her. In terms of her impact, I did a quick google and this came up. I'm not a female nor am I gay, but apparently some find value in what she has done. Again this comes down to one person instead of the team and that was manufactured by the media. She has not made a direct impact on my life nor am I triggered by her. My nieces love her and have for a decade as they grew up playing and watching the US women's side. They admire for her what she did on the pitch and don't care about the other BS....never once heard them speak about the anthem, but both had her jersey. Stay mad at her, but if they all don't sing for the next WC the media needs to find a new villain I guess.


And the positive impact is something she still sees firsthand.


“I still, to this day, have people coming up to me or writing me or whatever it may be, you know, thanking me or saying, you know, I’m the reason they felt OK with themselves or I’m the reason their family was OK – or you know, parents coming up to me who very clearly have little budding gay children,” said Rapinoe. “And even if it’s an unspoken thing, they see themselves in me.”
 
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Are you not talking about her? What cause of hers bothers you? You still didn’t answer the end game and are only talking about her. In terms of her impact, I did a quick google and this came up. I'm not a female nor am I gay, but apparently some find value in what she has done. Again this comes down to one person instead of the team and that was manufactured by the media. She has not made a direct impact on my life nor am I triggered by her. My nieces love her and have for a decade as they grew up playing and watching the US women's side. They admire for her what she did on the pitch and don't care about the other BS....never once heard them speak about the anthem, but both had her jersey. Stay mad at her, but if they all don't sing for the next WC the media needs to find a new villain I guess.


And the positive impact is something she still sees firsthand.


“I still, to this day, have people coming up to me or writing me or whatever it may be, you know, thanking me or saying, you know, I’m the reason they felt OK with themselves or I’m the reason their family was OK – or you know, parents coming up to me who very clearly have little budding gay children,” said Rapinoe. “And even if it’s an unspoken thing, they see themselves in me.”

Her cause doesn't bother me. Her actions do zero. Thats my point. All it does is alienate and divide.
Further, she is silly and naive is she thinks her actions on the field can somehow enact social change.
Her play on the field certainly helps, but "Taking a stand" does zero.

Again, I find it silly. Thats take. It makes me not want to watch them. Thats my opinion and its the opinion of many others.
Now again, I am a lefty, I am aware of the side that puts me on, but it is what it is. I think this team set back the progress that has been made in the sport. (this specific womens world cup team)
 

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Her cause doesn't bother me. Her actions do zero. Thats my point. All it does is alienate and divide.
Further, she is silly and naive is she thinks her actions on the field can somehow enact social change.
Her play on the field certainly helps, but "Taking a stand" does zero.

Again, I find it silly. Thats take. It makes me not want to watch them. Thats my opinion and its the opinion of many others.
Now again, I am a lefty, I am aware of the side that puts me on, but it is what it is. I think this team set back the progress that has been made in the sport. (this specific womens world cup team)
Ok. Don’t watch.
 

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I follow the Thorns so I am more familiar with Sophia Smith & Olivia Moultrie than the others. Smith has been playing more in the center for them this year than the wing and I think that will be her natural position by the next Olympic & Cup cycle.

Just looking at the stat sheets, some might want to write Moultrie off as overrated. But you have to remember that she's only seventeen playing against adult professionals, not her U-20 peers. I'm also glad that she has been brought along slowly rather than the force feeding that Freddy Adu received.

Rodman has shown some glimmers of becoming a high end talent.

Girma was one of the few brightspots of the tourney.

On another note, while I do think that the NWSL is great for the future of the American game, I think it would be beneficial for more of our top players to spend some time in the European leagues as well.
 
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The problem is you can’t be critical of Rapinoe without being labeled a misogynist, sexist, homophobe, triggered or insert any other name typically used by others who don’t agree.
Yeah, it always cracks me up when the social justice warriors talk about freedom. If you don't support every single aspect of a particular issue, you are somehow against the entire issue.

And their beliefs are rooted in truth, while anybody who doesn't think like they do is being manipulated.

For me it is a time and place thing. Politics has been injected into damn near everything by both sides. I guess I'd like to find an occasional refuge from it here and there.

I sing and play guitar out, and i have NEVER...not once...spewed anything political despite having the only microphone. People came to hear music and the occasional awful joke...Not be lectured to.

Can we just play soccer please? Can we protest for whatever cause you're promoting in some other way? Do i honestly have to be subjected to politics no matter what the occasion, event or venue?
 

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Yeah, it always cracks me up when the social justice warriors talk about freedom. If you don't support every single aspect of a particular issue, you are somehow against the entire issue.

And their beliefs are rooted in truth, while anybody who doesn't think like they do is being manipulated.

For me it is a time and place thing. Politics has been injected into damn near everything by both sides. I guess I'd like to find an occasional refuge from it here and there.

I sing and play guitar out, and i have NEVER...not once...spewed anything political despite having the only microphone. People came to hear music and the occasional awful joke...Not be lectured to.

Can we just play soccer please? Can we protest for whatever cause you're promoting in some other way? Do i honestly have to be subjected to politics no matter what the occasion, event or venue?
What was the protest this time? Who really spun up this magical protest? Some of the women simply didn't sing.....who made that into something? What was this protest in this WC or was this simply carried over from 4 years ago? I hate it when the media stokes fake outrage.....I have yet to see what in 2023 the protest was....but I'm also not proactively looking for it so maybe it is out there, it could be?

Some of the women stood at attention as far as I know and it triggered a certain media to trigger it's folks as it's just that easy. Nobody took a knee, there was no signs on a shirt that I could tell....so what is the real rub? It cracks me up that people can get so easily manipulated by the media.
 
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