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Agreed their qb is a mental case, and the weakness of their team.
But I tire of seeing other teams do things to clemson and us being unable to duplicate it.
They sucked worse last year and it didn't go well.
That would be nice. Just don't see us going into the Swamp and stopping Richardson. UT will vaporize us. Don't see us winning at Clemson either. We just aren't good enough on either side of the ball.
I hope I'm 100% wrong though.
I hope I'm 100% wrong though.
As much as I think Clemson is beatable, we are not ND on the offensive front. I do think we have the perimeter weapons to hurt them…if Satterfield gives us a chance and our OL holds up. Not sure either will happen.
On the flip side, while our defense is serviceable, we still lack the playmakers up front to stop the run consistently. Shipley is good, and will run the ball well enough so that they don’t have to put it in DJ’s hands.
Now, if we manage to force them to throw, it may become interesting.
On the flip side, while our defense is serviceable, we still lack the playmakers up front to stop the run consistently. Shipley is good, and will run the ball well enough so that they don’t have to put it in DJ’s hands.
Now, if we manage to force them to throw, it may become interesting.
It's amazing how much euphoria we exhibit after a single win over a struggling team, even after an embarrassing loss in the previous game.
Our fan base is nothing if not predictable.
You must have bought some fresh garnet Vape this morning.
It's a result of false promise and frustrated hope over many decades - a longingness like none other in major college football. Understand I'm talking about schools that take football seriously and have invested heavily to reach the Promised Land. I'm not talking about Northwestern or Iowa State. We have striven mightily only to have all efforts and initiatives frustrated the vast majority of the time. It is a forlorn and pathetic legacy. It continuously engenders straws that many in our fanbase have to grasp - poor souls.
I think it goes beyond investment. Decision making on hiring the best coach has been the key to Clemson success, Georgia and others
And there are posters on here who think we are in great shape and should not question anything!
And Clemson and Georgia have had there share of lemons also. Its a tough business.....there aren't many "sure things."
If we find a way to win one of our final 3 games, that all but assures Satterfield will be back. Is it worth it? Yeah, always take the win, but I’d sure love to see something different on offense next season.
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DJ can suck all year, and their receivers have performed subpar. With that said, we will see Jerry Rice and Joe Montana for that one day. It sux how this works.
They haven't legalized marijuana in SC yet....have they? Though I doubt that would be strong enough to elicit that level of euphoria.
That portion of the fanbase are generally referred to as The SuNsHiNe PuMpErS. They would make criticizing the USC Coaches or officials a misdemeanor criminal offense if they could!
a 3 win season- they are like, awesome, wait till next year fellas!
Barely bowl eligible- they are humping Tanners leg.
The pumpers mean well. But IMO they are supportive to a fault where they do more harm than good.
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Clemson promoted Dabo a no name assistant at the time. Was it good decision making or did they get lucky that it worked out?
I like the way you think, brother. I can't get there at this time, but I sure hope you're right.
This, and our fanbase's eternal willingness to crow about how "this is the year" or "we are going to have a special season" every August makes us a source of ridicule among other fan bases. The OP is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. We will be lucky to beat UF and go 7-5 and for that we should be very grateful. I guess the OP elected to leave out a game to make the record look better?
7-5 would be a decent year, but there would always be freaking Missouri. Hateful loss.
Unfortunately of all Clemson opponents SC is perfect for them. Hopefully this is the last year of it being that. SC offense just doesn't have the ability to expose like other schools. I think it will be closer this year than the ladt 7-8 or whatever but they'll still win a 24-10 type score.
True fans want accountability…..they just don’t call for a coach or AD to be fired at the first punt or dropped pass of the season. Those calling for Satterfield to be fired before this season were comical. Now the end of this season we need to make an upgrade Unless a rabbit comes out of a hat.
You all remind me of the hindsight crowd claiming Holbrook should have never been hired. Laughable. Did it work out…no. Dumbo should have never been hired and I remember Clemson fans being irate over this no name non ever been a coordinaltor person. It lucked out and worked.
Then there’s the crowd who hopes/prays we fail so they can say I told you so, be able to say “sunshine pumper,” or harp on we can never win….wah wah wah. Funny how all the newer posters fall into this category.
I wake up every day with hope…….does every day work out perfectly?…..heck no. But then I focus on tomorrow being better. I hate to lose……but I dare say most of you have lost a bunch in life but keep on plugging forward. That’s how I treat football….and I get pissed after every loss so I was pissed allot when Muschamp was here. I was truly pissed after the uga and mizzou games. The Arkansas game I saw some good stuff I thought and mistakingly thought we would play them toug.
I am no where near satisfied at this point…..but we appear to be going in the right direction. We will know shortly and if Shane can’t get it done we should go in another direction. Lastly, firing your coordinator mid-season is stupid.
Where is this euphoria you speak of? I haven’t seen anyone acting like a corner has been turned. Beating Vandy is what we were supposed to do and expected…nothing more and nothing less. I take no pleasure in beating the Vandys and Ga States of the world. I just know losing to them would suck.
Calling for Satterfield to be fired before this season was not "at the first punt or dropped pass", but after a year of results, backed up by multiple years of his history as an OC.
And now that we're admitting we need to make an upgrade, it does seem like it was the right call after all.
But I agree that firing an OC in mid season is not called for here. That's why I'm hoping it's just being handled with class until (the end of the season) when the announcement is made.
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I don't recall anyone calling for a mid-season firing. Changes on offense yes - firing no. Coach Beamer himself as well as players have publicly acknowledged changes on offense were needed. There is a strong chance Coach Beamer will lose the gains he has made in changing culture, building player relationships and recruiting if he does not make the move. End of season and pre-bowl game would be preferable to get extra practice with a new OC and system.
If it was “lucky “, they got lucky three times. The three best coaches they’ve ever had
This isn't the only place that Gamecock Football is discussed. Facebook features several Gamecock pages, one of which is Gamecocks Forever. Pollyanna lives there. And Bo, DANG, this very 8-3 thread started TODAY. Come on, now.
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If it worked out, it must be assigned as good decision making. No one can prove otherwise.
Yes...we don't have one player as good as Shipley (including C. Smith)...and he will get 20 touches vs. us.
With our offense.....unlikely we score a bunch on them. 14 MAYBE? 10 likely.
Yes, losses to Vandy or Ga State or SC State or any cupcake are indicators of serious deficiencies in an SEC program. When college football went to a 12 game schedule we were supposed to get better OOC matchups since teams could lose an OOC game and still win their conference championship. Instead, we got another cupcake game added every season so overpaid coaches could tack on another win and get bowl eligible easier. With most teams playing 3 cupcakes a season now, a team really only has to win 3 legitimate games to be bowl eligible. With 34 or so bowls, being in a bowl is the FBS equivalent of a participation trophy.
And yet that seems to be the goal for many and think others should be impressed by it
Throw in Vandy, and there are basically 4 built-in wins on the schedule, so we actually only need to find 2 additional wins on the schedule. I'm glad we're bowl eligible b/c it means we don't totally suck, but I'm well aware that getting to 6 wins is considerable easier when you start at 4 wins.
I agree with a lot of what you said; however, I disagree that those who were calling for Satt to be released last year were wrong. The offense was terrible last year excluding the Mayo Bowl. I'm not talking about QB play or anything like that, I'm talking about the offensive scheme, which is the same as this year, was terrible. Satt should have never been hired, and he should have been released at the end of the year last year. What's most infuriating is that he is capable of calling a good game, like the Mayo Bowl, but then immediately follows it by calling some of the dumbest, predictable offenses in the world. We need a quality coach with a proven track record (Remember Satt was fired from Temple as well), who can innovate or at least be creative with the offensive weapons we have. For the first time in a long time, we have several offensive weapons in Bell, Vann, Lloyd, and Wells. We aren't really putting them in positions to make plays because the offensive scheme is so bland and predictable. I understand what you were saying, and under normal circumstances I would give a guy the benefit of the doubt, but Satt needed to go last year. Hopefully we can respectfully agree to disagree.
I'm sure they would like to grab the brass ring and have invested heavily to do it. But it must be said that they have realized far more success for their investment, especially in this millennium, than we have. We would have loved to be where they are and have been in terms of achievement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Ducks_football
I get it and your points are valid. I had all the same concerns with our offense. I tried to incorporate the QB issues, along with what was many times poor execution (blocking, dropped passes, etc.). Overall, with the apparent improvement (minus the tater game), it felt like maintaining continuity with much better execution would be possible this year.
We now have enough sample size to know we need a different approach IMO.
Muschamp Syndrome. I'm hopeful we're not going make that 5-year mistake again.