A Comprehensive Look at what MSU is doing in student recruitment

00Dawg

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People don't take the SAT because scholarships are SAT only; they take the SAT because some people do better on the SAT than the ACT.
Or because they want to complete for National Merit Finalist spots. Bear in mind that label is from 30 years ago.
 
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HRMSU

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Those are both excellent questions. I will attempt to answer.

1. If we did this, our enrollment would suffer. That's why we need to consider waiving OOS tution for alumni kids, Memphis area and high achieving out of state. Texas and Georgia have unique issues where it iis extremely difficult to get into UTexas and UGA, even as a in-state student. A Dallas or Atlanta area kid with a 4.0+ GPA and a 28 ACT might not get into their state's flagships if they are not in the top 10% of their graduating class. Those kids have to drop to Texas Tech/Texas State level or go private to TCU/SMU/Baylor. Ole Miss becomes a very attractive option to get a big school experience. So don't assume that all of those out of state kids are dumbasses, although they get a share of wealthy out of state kids interested in Greek Life.

2. We've got a lot of debt in the infrastructure, which is probably why we can't do anything drastic to better the student quality. We built a lot of campus on Pell Grants.
To point #1 regarding UT or A&M it really is top 8-10% graduating class or a very good SAT/ACT score. With the population in TX that sends a lot of really good to average students in TX looking for options. Arkansas has really capitalized on it with 80%/70% discount of out of state tuition to neighboring states. So, they get a bunchof TX kids, Ole Miss gets the stereotypical kids who can't get into UT or A&M but parents have $, and Tech and others get the rest.
 

eckie1

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This is the feel-good thread of the year for a guy whose son seems dead set about go to State (who lives in TX).*****

I did see that non-resident legacies get $5K a year based on some pretty minimum requirements. And, if we can get his ACT score up, we’d get $22K a year off. He’s already met the $72K a year


It will be interesting to see how it goes down. He doesn’t even want to look anywhere else, but he has to realize places like UT and the OK schools will throw a lot his way. Just gotta go hear them out.

ETA, out-of-state tuition is a racket. Total bill for each year would still be $13K, at least.
 

WilCoDawg

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That recruiter looks like the epitome of a nerd who desperately is trying to associate with who she thinks are cool kids. “Look at me! I’m a snobby rebel, too! Let’s be friends and say ‘Moo U’ at farmers.”