Agenda for this week's PSU Board of Trustees meetings:

PSUFTG

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Many thanks.

Is the $75k figure an all-or-nothing number e.g. a student from a family with an income of $74,800 would receive an "Access Grant" fully offsetting the tuition increase while another with a family income of $75,300 would receive nothing? Tell me this isn't the best thing Sara Thordike could come up with.
As presented, it was "all or nothing" based on being above or below that threshhold wrt family income (FWIW: As an aside, I do not recall having the parameter of "family income" being precisely defined - but when I asked, it was relayed that the intention is to use the figure as calculated on the FAFSA. Which, of course, presents several concerns, which need not be enumerated here).
Obviously, and as more than one poster have pointed out, the PROCESS presents several concerns (even if everyone was in agreement that something should be done to "soften the blow" for low and moderate income students).

I can say that I presented some alternatives, wrt how to adjudicate the "offset" for low/moderate income families (rather than the "on/off" switch at $75,000) - several times - including alternatives that I think would have also been administratively easier than the plan as proposed. At no time did any of those alternatives seem to generate much interest from either Board or Administration. In fairness, I think the plan as proposed and presented by Administration was put together very quickly.
 

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A couple of thoughts....

Will that $75,000 be defined as gross income or taxable income? What is the definition of a "family"? Will the "family" have to provide copies of tax returns to somebody at PSU? Will this "family" income definition include the income of high school family members working summer jobs?
Isn’t that where the FAFSA application comes into play? That info is all
Part of that application.
 

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$12.4 million for field hockey... SMH. Is there a more under-performing sport at PSU? It pains me to say it, but this is where the $EC has the right approach. Eliminate as many ******** non-rev men's and women's sports as possible and focus on those that generate revenue
 

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$12.4 million for field hockey... SMH. Is there a more under-performing sport at PSU? It pains me to say it, but this is where the $EC has the right approach. Eliminate as many ******** non-rev men's and women's sports as possible and focus on those that generate revenue
college sports as a business- but is that what it's supposed to be?
 

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A couple of thoughts....

Will that $75,000 be defined as gross income or taxable income? What is the definition of a "family"? Will the "family" have to provide copies of tax returns to somebody at PSU? Will this "family" income definition include the income of high school family members working summer jobs?
Appears that PSU will use FAFSA and its definitions. No need to provide tax returns.
 

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As presented, it was "all or nothing" based on being above or below that threshhold wrt family income (FWIW: As an aside, I do not recall having the parameter of "family income" being precisely defined - but when I asked, it was relayed that the intention is to use the figure as calculated on the FAFSA. Which, of course, presents several concerns, which need not be enumerated here).
Obviously, and as more than one poster have pointed out, the PROCESS presents several concerns (even if everyone was in agreement that something should be done to "soften the blow" for low and moderate income students).

I can say that I presented some alternatives, wrt how to adjudicate the "offset" for low/moderate income families (rather than the "on/off" switch at $75,000) - several times - including alternatives that I think would have also been administratively easier than the plan as proposed. At no time did any of those alternatives seem to generate much interest from either Board or Administration. In fairness, I think the plan as proposed and presented by Administration was put together very quickly.
In other words, this is the best that Sara Thorndike and her minions could come up with. Big surprise. A sliding scale would have been fairer and not particularly difficult to devise. But that would have required thought and effort.
 
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$12.4 million for field hockey... SMH. Is there a more under-performing sport at PSU? It pains me to say it, but this is where the $EC has the right approach. Eliminate as many ******** non-rev men's and women's sports as possible and focus on those that generate revenue
That leaves exactly 3 remaining, all men's sports as well which I believe would be a title 9 issue so it's not even realistic.
 

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Report on PSU BOT meetings of July 2022:

Quick (sorta’) run down on the seven items brought before the Board for a vote this week. Such items are also known as “Action Items”.

Action Items (items requiring approval through Board vote). There were seven of them.
I will discuss them in the order in which they were presented at the meeting – though the one generating the most discussion/interest is the “Tuition Increase”, which was the last item on the list (Item 7)…. Feel free to jump ahead to get to that one first.
For each, I will give a brief description of the item, provide any relevant background info, and – most importantly – transcribe what I said, on the record, at the meeting, list how I voted, and why:

Item 1) Approval of the Minutes from previous meeting.

As with most boards, the first item is generally approving of the Minutes from the previous meeting (essentially, approving that the record – the minutes – of the previous meeting are accurate)
Since I was not yet a member of the Board for the previous meeting, I , appropriately, did not vote on the approval.

Items 2, 3, 4:

The next three items were lumped together as “Consent Items” – with the typical procedure being that all of them would be voted on (approved) by a single voice vote.
I, as is my right/duty as a Trustee, asked that the first of these items be separated from the others for discussion and a separate vote. That item was:

Item 2) Election of Trustee Dan Delligatti to the Executive Committee.

I asked that this item be separated, and discussed, for some specific – and, I think, important – reasons.
To the best of my recollection, I was the only Trustee to provide any questions or commentary on this item.

I voted “No” (I believe I was the only dissenting vote), after making the following public comments:

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS:
“To be clear, my concerns are completely unrelated to the qualifications or abilities of the specific nominee to the Executive Committee – but rather to my belief that the existence of the “Executive Committee” does nothing to further the mission of providing responsible governance to Penn State, and indeed creates the opportunity for governance that is incongruent with “Responsible Governance”. I cannot support the addition of any Trustees to the committee.”

A little background:
There is no reason, IMO, for the existence of the Executive Committee.
The Board Bylaws, wrt the Executive Committee, state:
(a) Purpose of the Executive Committee. The purpose of the executive committee shall be to transact all necessary business as may arise in the intervals between regular meetings of the Board of Trustees; it being understood that action by the executive committee would not be expected to be taken except in extraordinary circumstances. Notice of any action by the executive committee shall be provided to the Board of Trustees at its next regular meeting.

With today’s technology, and the fact that most off-cycle meetings of the Board take place virtually, there is no reason that the full Board cannot be solicited in the event of an unexpected – and time-critical – issue arising. In brief, the existence of the Executive Committee, IMO, only serves to provide the opportunity for actions to be taken by a small subset of the Board – without the input and approval of all members of the Board. That is the opposite of responsible governance.

As can be seen here, under the “Meetings” tab, there are no records, agenda, or minutes listed for ANY Executive Committee meetings for at least the last 10 years.
Office of the Board of Trustees | (psu.edu)
Since all “deliberative” meetings (meetings where issues are discussed, and decisions are made or recommended) should be available to the public (and, most certainly, to all members of the Board), and appropriate records and minutes published, this would indicate that no such meetings ever occurred.

That said, when I asked that this item be separated for discussion, I specifically asked the current Board Chairman (Mathew Schuyler):
“When was the last meeting of Executive Committee held, to conduct University business?”.
Chairman Schuyler responded that the Executive Committee met most recently within the last few weeks.
I wanted that question/response to be placed on record. Because, if held, where are those records?
(important to keep in mind moving forward)


I believe that my comments served to make something crystal clear:
One of two things has transpired. Either such meetings were not held (and have not been held for at least a decade), or such meetings are held – perhaps with regularity - but they are held in such a way to exclude public access (and the involvement of most of the members of the Board) and are not properly recorded.
In either case, these would be stunning examples of irresponsible governance. This is an issue moving forward.

Items 3) and 4) The other two items on the Consent Agenda passed without, to my recollection, any meaningful comments:

– The addition of Tracy Riegel (new appointed Trustee) and Steve Wagman (alumni-elected Trustee) to the Board of the Corporation for Penn State.
- The granting of “Emeriti Trustee” status to former Trustees Kathleen Casey, Dick Dandrea, Barb Doran, and Bill Oldsey. “Emeriti Trustee” status entails a non-voting position – but with certain privileges (including access to attend and engage in discussions at Board meetings). Such status is bestowed upon certain former Trustees, who meet certain requirements, at the discretion of the Board.
Further details on “Emeriti” status, and the Corporation for Penn State, can be found within the PSU BOT Bylaws on the Board website. We will talk about some of those issues in greater detail at another time.
 

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PART 2:

Item 5) Approval of the spending of $128 million for construction of the new Liberal Arts building.

To the best of my recollection, I was the only Trustee who provided any questions or commentary on this item.
I voted “No” (I believe I was the only dissenting vote), after making the following public comments:

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS:
“I have two concerns with regard to the proposed project:

1) The proposed structure serves the missions of the college of Liberal Arts, a mission which may be very justifiable and appropriate – with approximately 75% of the space being allocated to Offices and Classroom space – and something less than 25% to Laboratory space for the Anthropology Department.


Such a space – based on rough estimates of similar higher education construction throughout the country – would be expected to be priced at somewhere in the neighborhood of $650 per composite square foot, as a reasonably healthy estimate.

[Some background, which I didn’t go into detail with in my public comments: Current construction estimates for such spaces on University campuses, nationwide, are ~$800 per square foot for scientific lab spaces, and ~$600 per square foot for either classroom of office space – and those are “high side” estimates… the ~$650 per square foot is a composite for a space that is 75% “Classroom and Office” space, with the remainder being “Laboratory”. And, FWIW, there are numerous examples of current cost structures in that range among our peer institutions]

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS (continued):
This estimate, $650 per square foot, times the total listed square footage of the new building, would place a total cost at approximately $93 Million. The proposed price – of $128 million (minus $5 million to raze Oswald, if that is included) – is $35 million over that target.

To put that into some relevant perspective, that single “inefficiency” is enough money to provide 1700 full tuition scholarships to Pennsylvania students. While the “mission” may be righteous, the cost – for what we are getting – needs to be refined.

[Some background and clarification, that I didn’t go into detail with in my public comment: This is not a first time or one-of wrt Penn State Capital Expense projects. The “Fenske Lab Replacement”, “Henning Building”, “Abington Dorms”, “Lasch Building Renovations”, etc are but a few examples of similarly perplexingly-priced projects in recent years]

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS (continued):
"2) Razing Oswald:

Is spending $5 million, to tear down a 50 year old office/class building the best option?
I don’t know, but if it is, it is an indictment of our Capital Spending priorities. If Oswald, after 50 years, is in such a state of disrepair that the only viable option is to spend $5 million to tear it down, we have done a very poor job of maintaining the structure over the years.

More often than not, when we put up a new building – and tear down an older building – we hear that the ”costs” will be offset by razing the old building to save on deferred maintenance costs. At the same time, we hear reports on a regular basis that we are putting off required maintenance projects due to lack of funds.

It is far, far less expensive to take care of those assets we have – rather than allowing them to go to seed, tearing them down, and building a new replacement. And we now have well over $3 Billion of long-term debt on the University’s books – a significant portion of which is due to such actions - which will be paid by who? (We know who, it will largely be future generations of Penn State students, and their parents).


That needs to stop.”

Item 6) Field Hockey Stadium Project:

This is an ~$12 Million project to construct a stadium for PSU Field Hockey (they currently play on a field that – IMO – is “playable”, but not high end). I would not approve of the expenditure of $12 million of University funds for such a project (a project that will generate, in all likelihood, near “$0” of revenue, and not further the most critical missions of the University).
BUT (“big” but), the bulk of the funding was raised through specific philanthropy – procured through years of efforts on the part of the Field Hockey staff, with the remainder being taken on by PSU ICA (to the best of my knowledge – I do plan to talk w new Athletic Director Pat Kraft, just to touch base on his thoughts on a lot of ICA items, and will bring up the field hockey issue as well).

So, I voted to approve of the project (and I believe it passed unanimously).

Listed below are my planned comments on the proposal. Because another Trustee – Anthony Lubrano – made a statement about the project that was just about identical to my thoughts, and in the interest of maintaining meeting brevity, I simply mentioned “Ditto”, and that I concurred w Lubrano’s thoughts on the matter.
But here are my thoughts and explanations:

“As opposed to many ICA projects in recent years, this project illustrates – IMO – a reasonable process.
The folks involved with the Field Hockey program – led, largely, I believe, by head coach Charlene Morret – raised the bulk of the funds necessary through philanthropy. I know she was also VERY willing and enthusiastic to discuss the project, her visions for the program, and engage in informative discussions about the merits and requirements. That is a good thing – and it is the process through which optimal decisions are made.

For a “niche program”, with very little opportunity for revenue generation, to have raised such funds via philanthropy is a testament to their hard work, and the generosity of our donors. Kudos to both.

I would like to hear, specifically, that ICA will take on responsibility for any expenditures over and above the amount raised through philanthropy – and I expect to discuss this with new Athletic Director Pat Craft…. Who I am hopeful will provide some much needed sound fiscal management to that department.

In the interim, with both congratulations for a job well done thus far, and the hope for greater fiscal responsibility and strategic vision moving forward by PSU ICA, I can – cautiously – approve of this project.”
 
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PART 3:



Item 7) Faculty/Staff Salary Increases and Tuition Increases:

Important: These were listed as one item – though it should have been two separate items – and thereby required us, as Trustees, to vote on them both together. I asked for them to be separated, but was told (by Board leadership) to "pound sand" (in so many words).


Cliff’s Notes, This Item called for:
- Approval of the spending required to provide a 2.5% across-the-board increase to faculty/staff salaries
- And approval of increases to PSU tuition rates.
The tuition increase (details can be linked here: 2022-23-July-BOT-Schedules.pdf (psu.edu) ) was, roughly speaking, 5% increase for most Pennsylvania students, 6% increase for most Non-PA students, lower increases at Commonwealth Campus than at University Park, and a commitment on the part of Administration (Dr Bendapudi) to “make whole” all students with family incomes under $75,000 (presumably through grant money, provided by Penn State, to such students, in an amount equal to the increase in tuition costs)

I voted “No” (I was one of six who voted “No” – though I WANTED to vote “Yes” on the 2.5% salary increase for Staff/Faculty). I was, to the best of my recollection, the only one who gave Reasons and Explanations as to why they were voting "No" - so I couldn't say whether or not others agreed or disagreed with my assessments.
Those 6 who voted “No” were – Ted Brown, Alvin DeLevie, Anthony Lubrano, Jay Paterno, Alice Pope, and myself – all of whom are alumni-elected trustees. Three alumni-elected trustees – Christa Hasenkopf, Brandon Short, and Steve Wagman voted “Yes” – to approve the tuition hikes/salary increases. IIRC, two trustees, who are members of Tom Wolf’s cabinet, abstained from voting)

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS:
“This really should be two separate items – and the parameters of each are significantly different. I asked that the two items be separated but, as you all know, I was rebuffed.

With regard to the salary increases:
While I would like to see increased salary pools be allocated with a significant emphasis on performance-based differential increases - and I believe that, moving forward, that preference is shared by current administration - I also understand the desire to provide some baseline across-the-board salary increases - - so that all PSU employees can receive some salary boost.
And so, I can approve of that portion of the proposal


With regard to the Tuition Increases:
We know we were surprised by the lack of increased finding from the State… and it kind of threw things into a bit of a tizzy. Unfortunately, the prevailing knee-jerk reaction appears to have been “We have to raise tuition”.
IMO – the reaction should have been “We need to get to work on the things that we should have been doing for the last 10 years”.
Now, Dr Bendapudi and her administration walked into this crisis situation, not of their doing – we would be remiss to not recognize that, and I believe we are all hopeful that moving forward we will be able to work together – Board and Administration - to overcome the mess (and it is a mess) that we all find ourselves in.
That said, there is plenty of “low hanging fruit” with regard to savings and increased efficiencies that we can, and should, be able to harvest – to mitigate tuition increases at this time. The potential silver lining of the surprise from Harrisburg CAN be that it will light a fire under our behinds to do those things we should have been doing all along.

And so, if we cannot separate these two items – and I don’t know why we can’t, and we absolutely should separate them – I will have to vote “No”, even though I support the Salary increase portion of the item.”
 

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Saw a post earlier wrt "Committees" of the Board.

Quick list of which Alumni Elected Trustees are on which committees - along with the committee assignments of all of the new (joining this year) trustees. Assignments to Committees are done by the Board Chairman (Matt Schuyler):

Full list here Committee Membership | Office of the Board of Trustees (psu.edu)

Alumni Elected Trustees:

Steve Wagman: Executive Committee, Academic Affairs Committee (Chair of Committee), and Outreach Committee
Jay Paterno: Outreach Committee, Equity Committee, and Academic Affairs Committee
Christa Hasenkopf: Outreach Committee, and Audit Committee
Alvin DeLevie: Outreach Committee, Legal Committee, and Audit Committee
Alice Pope: Governance Committee, Long Range Planning Committee, and Academic Affairs Committee (Vice Chair of Committee)
Brandon Short: Equity Committee (Vice Chair), and Finance Committee
Anthony Lubrano: Finance Committee, and Audit Committee
Ted Brown: Academic Affairs Committee, Audit Committee (Vice Chair), and Risk Committee
Barry Fenchak: Academic Affairs Committee

Other New Trustees:

Richard Sokolov (Business and Industry Appointed): Executive Committee, Finance Committee, Outreach Committee (Chair)
Naren Gursahaney (Business and Industry Appointed): Equity Committee, and Outreach Committee
Tracy Riegel (At Large Appointee): Academic Affairs Committee, and Equity Committee
Eric Hagarty (Cabinet Member of Tom Wolf): Academic Affairs Committee, and Outreach Committee
 

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Report on PSU BOT meetings of July 2022:

Quick (sorta’) run down on the seven items brought before the Board for a vote this week. Such items are also known as “Action Items”.

Action Items (items requiring approval through Board vote). There were seven of them.
I will discuss them in the order in which they were presented at the meeting – though the one generating the most discussion/interest is the “Tuition Increase”, which was the last item on the list (Item 7)…. Feel free to jump ahead to get to that one first.
For each, I will give a brief description of the item, provide any relevant background info, and – most importantly – transcribe what I said, on the record, at the meeting, list how I voted, and why:

Item 1) Approval of the Minutes from previous meeting.

As with most boards, the first item is generally approving of the Minutes from the previous meeting (essentially, approving that the record – the minutes – of the previous meeting are accurate)
Since I was not yet a member of the Board for the previous meeting, I , appropriately, did not vote on the approval.

Items 2, 3, 4:

The next three items were lumped together as “Consent Items” – with the typical procedure being that all of them would be voted on (approved) by a single voice vote.
I, as is my right/duty as a Trustee, asked that the first of these items be separated from the others for discussion and a separate vote. That item was:

Item 2) Election of Trustee Dan Delligatti to the Executive Committee.

I asked that this item be separated, and discussed, for some specific – and, I think, important – reasons.
To the best of my recollection, I was the only Trustee to provide any questions or commentary on this item.

I voted “No” (I believe I was the only dissenting vote), after making the following public comments:

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS:
“To be clear, my concerns are completely unrelated to the qualifications or abilities of the specific nominee to the Executive Committee – but rather to my belief that the existence of the “Executive Committee” does nothing to further the mission of providing responsible governance to Penn State, and indeed creates the opportunity for governance that is incongruent with “Responsible Governance”. I cannot support the addition of any Trustees to the committee.”


A little background:
There is no reason, IMO, for the existence of the Executive Committee.
The Board Bylaws, wrt the Executive Committee, state:
(a) Purpose of the Executive Committee. The purpose of the executive committee shall be to transact all necessary business as may arise in the intervals between regular meetings of the Board of Trustees; it being understood that action by the executive committee would not be expected to be taken except in extraordinary circumstances. Notice of any action by the executive committee shall be provided to the Board of Trustees at its next regular meeting.

With today’s technology, and the fact that most off-cycle meetings of the Board take place virtually, there is no reason that the full Board cannot be solicited in the event of an unexpected – and time-critical – issue arising. In brief, the existence of the Executive Committee, IMO, only serves to provide the opportunity for actions to be taken by a small subset of the Board – without the input and approval of all members of the Board. That is the opposite of responsible governance.

As can be seen here, under the “Meetings” tab, there are no records, agenda, or minutes listed for ANY Executive Committee meetings for at least the last 10 years.
Office of the Board of Trustees | (psu.edu)
Since all “deliberative” meetings (meetings where issues are discussed, and decisions are made or recommended) should be available to the public (and, most certainly, to all members of the Board), and appropriate records and minutes published, this would indicate that no such meetings ever occurred.

That said, when I asked that this item be separated for discussion, I specifically asked the current Board Chairman (Mathew Schuyler):
“When was the last meeting of Executive Committee held, to conduct University business?”.
Chairman Schuyler responded that the Executive Committee met most recently within the last few weeks.
I wanted that question/response to be placed on record. Because, if held, where are those records?
(important to keep in mind moving forward)


I believe that my comments served to make something crystal clear:
One of two things has transpired. Either such meetings were not held (and have not been held for at least a decade), or such meetings are held – perhaps with regularity - but they are held in such a way to exclude public access (and the involvement of most of the members of the Board) and are not properly recorded.
In either case, these would be stunning examples of irresponsible governance. This is an issue moving forward.

Items 3) and 4) The other two items on the Consent Agenda passed without, to my recollection, any meaningful comments:

– The addition of Tracy Riegel (new appointed Trustee) and Steve Wagman (alumni-elected Trustee) to the Board of the Corporation for Penn State.
- The granting of “Emeriti Trustee” status to former Trustees Kathleen Casey, Dick Dandrea, Barb Doran, and Bill Oldsey. “Emeriti Trustee” status entails a non-voting position – but with certain privileges (including access to attend and engage in discussions at Board meetings). Such status is bestowed upon certain former Trustees, who meet certain requirements, at the discretion of the Board.
Further details on “Emeriti” status, and the Corporation for Penn State, can be found within the PSU BOT Bylaws on the Board website. We will talk about some of those issues in greater detail at another time.
And with this effort, you have communicated with this board more than all the other alumni elected members combined since the events of 2011/12. Thank you.
 

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That leaves exactly 3 remaining, all men's sports as well which I believe would be a title 9 issue so it's not even realistic.
But somehow the $EC finds a way to prosper supporting 15+ sports and not the 30+ that PSU has committed to. There's a model for success here but it's just that we haven't embraced it for whatever reason
 
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Barry,

Thank you for this report.

Keep up the campaign for fiscal responsibility.

Watch your six, my friend. One meeting in and I see you shaking the trees. The "Old Guard" will not take kindly to your calling them out.

Was the ten years a specifically intended time frame? (Initial board makeup post Sandusky debacle).
 

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Saw a post earlier wrt "Committees" of the Board.

Quick list of which Alumni Elected Trustees are on which committees - along with the committee assignments of all of the new (joining this year) trustees. Assignments to Committees are done by the Board Chairman (Matt Schuyler):

Full list here Committee Membership | Office of the Board of Trustees (psu.edu)

Alumni Elected Trustees:

Steve Wagman: Executive Committee, Academic Affairs Committee (Chair of Committee), and Outreach Committee
Jay Paterno: Outreach Committee, Equity Committee, and Academic Affairs Committee
Christa Hasenkopf: Outreach Committee, and Audit Committee
Alvin DeLevie: Outreach Committee, Legal Committee, and Audit Committee
Alice Pope: Governance Committee, Long Range Planning Committee, and Academic Affairs Committee (Vice Chair of Committee)
Brandon Short: Equity Committee (Vice Chair), and Finance Committee
Anthony Lubrano: Finance Committee, and Audit Committee
Ted Brown: Academic Affairs Committee, Audit Committee (Vice Chair), and Risk Committee
Barry Fenchak: Academic Affairs Committee

Other New Trustees:

Richard Sokolov (Business and Industry Appointed): Executive Committee, Finance Committee, Outreach Committee (Chair)
Naren Gursahaney (Business and Industry Appointed): Equity Committee, and Outreach Committee
Tracy Riegel (At Large Appointee): Academic Affairs Committee, and Equity Committee
Eric Hagarty (Cabinet Member of Tom Wolf): Academic Affairs Committee, and Outreach Committee

Thank You for the input and write up. This is some of the things I wanted to see in transparency in a BOT... Well done keep asking the questions and getting things on the record.
 
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My brother and I have conversations all the time about how PSU is not the same school it was back when we attended. In terms of affordability. Especially for blue collar Pennsylvanians.
 
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More than a little ironic that inflation is cited as a reason for the tuition increase when PSU has been running ahead of that curve for decades. bGuess Brandon wasn't paying attention.
 
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More than a little ironic that inflation is cited as a reason for the tuition increase when PSU has been running ahead of that curve for decades. bGuess Brandon wasn't paying attention.

A school the quality of Penn State should be ahead of the curve.
 

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PART 2:

Item 5) Approval of the spending of $128 million for construction of the new Liberal Arts building.

To the best of my recollection, I was the only Trustee who provided any questions or commentary on this item.
I voted “No” (I believe I was the only dissenting vote), after making the following public comments:

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS:
“I have two concerns with regard to the proposed project:

1) The proposed structure serves the missions of the college of Liberal Arts, a mission which may be very justifiable and appropriate – with approximately 75% of the space being allocated to Offices and Classroom space – and something less than 25% to Laboratory space for the Anthropology Department.


Such a space – based on rough estimates of similar higher education construction throughout the country – would be expected to be priced at somewhere in the neighborhood of $650 per composite square foot, as a reasonably healthy estimate.

[Some background, which I didn’t go into detail with in my public comments: Current construction estimates for such spaces on University campuses, nationwide, are ~$800 per square foot for scientific lab spaces, and ~$600 per square foot for either classroom of office space – and those are “high side” estimates… the ~$650 per square foot is a composite for a space that is 75% “Classroom and Office” space, with the remainder being “Laboratory”. And, FWIW, there are numerous examples of current cost structures in that range among our peer institutions]

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS (continued):
This estimate, $650 per square foot, times the total listed square footage of the new building, would place a total cost at approximately $93 Million. The proposed price – of $128 million (minus $5 million to raze Oswald, if that is included) – is $35 million over that target.

To put that into some relevant perspective, that single “inefficiency” is enough money to provide 1700 full tuition scholarships to Pennsylvania students. While the “mission” may be righteous, the cost – for what we are getting – needs to be refined.

[Some background and clarification, that I didn’t go into detail with in my public comment: This is not a first time or one-of wrt Penn State Capital Expense projects. The “Fenske Lab Replacement”, “Henning Building”, “Abington Dorms”, “Lasch Building Renovations”, etc are but a few examples of similarly perplexingly-priced projects in recent years]

MY PUBLIC COMMENTS (continued):
"2) Razing Oswald:

Is spending $5 million, to tear down a 50 year old office/class building the best option?
I don’t know, but if it is, it is an indictment of our Capital Spending priorities. If Oswald, after 50 years, is in such a state of disrepair that the only viable option is to spend $5 million to tear it down, we have done a very poor job of maintaining the structure over the years.

More often than not, when we put up a new building – and tear down an older building – we hear that the ”costs” will be offset by razing the old building to save on deferred maintenance costs. At the same time, we hear reports on a regular basis that we are putting off required maintenance projects due to lack of funds.

It is far, far less expensive to take care of those assets we have – rather than allowing them to go to seed, tearing them down, and building a new replacement. And we now have well over $3 Billion of long-term debt on the University’s books – a significant portion of which is due to such actions - which will be paid by who? (We know who, it will largely be future generations of Penn State students, and their parents).


That needs to stop.”

Item 6) Field Hockey Stadium Project:

This is an ~$12 Million project to construct a stadium for PSU Field Hockey (they currently play on a field that – IMO – is “playable”, but not high end). I would not approve of the expenditure of $12 million of University funds for such a project (a project that will generate, in all likelihood, near “$0” of revenue, and not further the most critical missions of the University).
BUT (“big” but), the bulk of the funding was raised through specific philanthropy – procured through years of efforts on the part of the Field Hockey staff, with the remainder being taken on by PSU ICA (to the best of my knowledge – I do plan to talk w new Athletic Director Pat Kraft, just to touch base on his thoughts on a lot of ICA items, and will bring up the field hockey issue as well).

So, I voted to approve of the project (and I believe it passed unanimously).

Listed below are my planned comments on the proposal. Because another Trustee – Anthony Lubrano – made a statement about the project that was just about identical to my thoughts, and in the interest of maintaining meeting brevity, I simply mentioned “Ditto”, and that I concurred w Lubrano’s thoughts on the matter.
But here are my thoughts and explanations:

“As opposed to many ICA projects in recent years, this project illustrates – IMO – a reasonable process.
The folks involved with the Field Hockey program – led, largely, I believe, by head coach Charlene Morret – raised the bulk of the funds necessary through philanthropy. I know she was also VERY willing and enthusiastic to discuss the project, her visions for the program, and engage in informative discussions about the merits and requirements. That is a good thing – and it is the process through which optimal decisions are made.

For a “niche program”, with very little opportunity for revenue generation, to have raised such funds via philanthropy is a testament to their hard work, and the generosity of our donors. Kudos to both.

I would like to hear, specifically, that ICA will take on responsibility for any expenditures over and above the amount raised through philanthropy – and I expect to discuss this with new Athletic Director Pat Craft…. Who I am hopeful will provide some much needed sound fiscal management to that department.

In the interim, with both congratulations for a job well done thus far, and the hope for greater fiscal responsibility and strategic vision moving forward by PSU ICA, I can – cautiously – approve of this project.”
Do you have any thoughts about what would cause the cost of the Welch building to be more expensive than the averages of similar construction at other universities? Are unions a factor in the cost of construction? Are we using more expensive building materials in order to fit in among architectural standards of the campus? Is the design of the building inefficient relative to usable square footage vs total square footage? What’s driving the cost up? These questions would be interesting to put to whichever board members or committees are responsible - thanks.
 

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Do you have any thoughts about what would cause the cost of the Welch building to be more expensive than the averages of similar construction at other universities? Are unions a factor in the cost of construction? Are we using more expensive building materials in order to fit in among architectural standards of the campus? Is the design of the building inefficient relative to usable square footage vs total square footage? What’s driving the cost up? These questions would be interesting to put to whichever board members or committees are responsible - thanks.
It's been clear for a while that Penn State overpays for construction to the benefit of the cabal that runs the place and their buddies
 
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GrimReaper

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Do you have any thoughts about what would cause the cost of the Welch building to be more expensive than the averages of similar construction at other universities? Are unions a factor in the cost of construction? Are we using more expensive building materials in order to fit in among architectural standards of the campus? Is the design of the building inefficient relative to usable square footage vs total square footage? What’s driving the cost up? These questions would be interesting to put to whichever board members or committees are responsible - thanks.
Wouldn't expect answers from the Board, but those questions should be put to the person in charge of the project or who has overall responsibility for construction projects at PSU.
 

Nitwit

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Wouldn't expect answers from the Board, but those questions should be put to the person in charge of the project or who has overall responsibility for construction projects at PSU.
Obviously. The board needs to ask those questions and obtain those answers.
 

BobPSU92

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I'd be surprised if the Board ever asked those questions. Maybe Barry will start something. And maybe he'll get answers. Considerably better odds on the former than the latter.

The board laughs at questions and answers.
 
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