Agenda for this week's PSU Board of Trustees meetings:
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$10 million in engineering fees and $3 million in actual construction costs. In going to hang up and listen to the heads exploding here on the Engineering/McAndrew board.
Engineers gonna get paid.
I'm thinking CR66 (Zippy from the old board) style
I like the FH program and support it. However, without reading the plan, $13M seems to be at least $10M over what is reasonable
This reminded me of some of the nonsense that our county makes us do when selling tickets for the football game. We have a ticket booth that’s about 15 feet in front of the only gate into the stadium. But instead of roping off an aisle way to walk through the gate once you have paid, the county makes each person get a ticket and then hand it to the person at the gate to walk in. So instead of having three people selling tickets at the ticket booth we also need to have at least one more person being paid to just collect the ticket that was given to them 15 feet earlier. I do realize we could do it our own way but the problem is when it’s a big game and there’s a few thousand people there get busy and you don’t notice someone from the county athletic department come by and then they reprimand you.
At a previous school that was an assistant athletic director, we needed to build a new field house and ticket booth/press box at our stadium. I understand that what Penn State is building is going to be significantly nicer than what we built but what we had was a very nice facility and considering that it is only a ticket booth and public restrooms for the field hockey facility they wouldn’t be any bigger than what we had at our high school. And we were able to get our whole thing done 10 years ago for under 1 million so even if they went with things that were twice as big as what we did and then add in the increase in cost from 10 years ago plus other various amenities for the locker rooms there’s still nothing close to 13 million.
I laughed at first, but it's true. I work with marketing people in a fortune 500 company. They have to submit a budget every fiscal year and they tell me that if they don't go over budget, their monies will be cut the following year. Over budget means more monies allocated to them the following year.
They have $7.75 donated and they are borrowing $2.5. My math isn't very good but I'll take a crack:
$12.8 budget - ($7.75 donated + $2.5 borrowing) = $2.55 still needed and unaccounted for in the agenda. What's $2.55 million among friends.
Barry, how will the BOT divide this up? JK
It sounds to me like a Barb Doran and Sandy Barber legacy thingy.
I doubt that ROI for most of the sports in the red is measured in attendance figures.
This is especially true with government agencies. Every department always spends every dollar out of fear that if they don't, their budget will be cut in future years.
Any renderings available of these projects? Didn't see any on the OPP site.
Doubt that "ROI" for these sports is measured by any metric. That would require critical thinking by Athletic Department administration and their enablers on the BoT.
Penn State laughs at critical thinking.
So BARRY. 
, tomorrow is the big day. Go get us a win.
Will Tom start an official BARRY. vs. bot game thread?
, tomorrow is the big day. Go get us a win. Will Tom start an official BARRY.
vs. bot game thread?It's Friday, not tomorrow.So BARRY.
Will Tom start an official BARRY.
The Pennsylvania State University
Board of Trustees Public Meeting
Friday, July 22, 2022
1:00 pm
Conference Center, Main Classroom Building
Penn State York Campus
July 21-22, 2022 | Office of the Board of Trustees
trustees.psu.edu
Let's hope so.So BARRY.
Will Tom start an official BARRY.
That's what they want Barry to think.
They'd have to see it before they could laugh at it.
Barry, I asked a serious question much earlier in the thread before all the snarky comments started - why isn’t the board scheduled to approve the 2022-23 university budget on Friday as has been done for the last 40+ years? Does it have anything to do with the recent departure of the Budget Officer and/or the Provost?
Ghost:
The Budget approval was pushed back due to - I believe - the very recent change in the State Appropriation for 2022/23. As you may know, the expectation was for a 5% (or more) increase - but it ended up being (surprisingly) a flat appropriation with no increase (except for a few smaller special appropriations - like for the Innovation deal).
I believe that threw the existing budget projections back into the blender, and it was determined that it was best to take a little more time to refigure those numbers.... and the formal budget approval was pushed back (though some specific "budgetary-type items will be voted on).
Hope that helps.
Yes.
Academic Affairs, Research and Student Life (that is ONE committee, not three)
Every member of the PSU BOT Finance Committee - except for Anthony Lubrano - voted to approve of the tuition increase (5% in state, 6% out of state). The committee includes Alumni-Elected trustees Brandon Short, along w Lubrano.
$10 million in engineering fees and $3 million in actual construction costs. I'm going to hang up and listen to the heads exploding here on the Engineering/McAndrew board.
“Qualifications-Based Selection process, in which contracts for A/Es are negotiated on the basis of demonstrated competence and qualification for the type of professional services required at a fair and reasonable price. Under QBS procurement procedures, price quotations are not a consideration in tqualifications-based selection process, in which contracts for A/Es are negotiated on the basis of demonstrated competence and qualification for the type of professional services required at a fair and reasonable price. Under QBS procurement procedures, price quotations are not a consideration in the selection process.”
Of course Lupert & Dumbly may add a twist of lemon and sugar in their selection of an A/E firm and construction company.
“Qualifications-Based Selection process, in which contracts for A/Es are negotiated on the basis of demonstrated competence and qualification for the type of professional services required at a fair and reasonable price. Under QBS procurement procedures, price quotations are not a consideration in tqualifications-based selection process, in which contracts for A/Es are negotiated on the basis of demonstrated competence and qualification for the type of professional services required at a fair and reasonable price. Under QBS procurement procedures, price quotations are not a consideration in the selection process.”
Of course Lupert & Dumbly may add a twist of lemon and sugar in their selection of an A/E firm and construction company.
Once you're "qualified," you're in and can set whatever price you want. Don't all best in practice private businesses work that way?
And counting all that free money from his "consulting contract"
Don't sell Peetz short. In 2012 she gave the impression she felt football should only exist to ensure the survival of field hockey.
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