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Google it…the answer to your question…CBS showed him for 4 seconds. So, they did show him…but certainly not for long. If you blinked…you missed it.
 

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It was a football game. Sorry for your hurt feelings over lack of political goobers on camera.
If Biden was there they would have fixated the camera on him standing there confused thinking its a baseball game, mouth wide open, asking for some ice cream. But Biden hasn't been to a single Army/Navy game....doesn't have the balls to show his face around true Americans. Would get booed out of the building.
 
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If Biden was there they would have fixated the camera on him standing there confused thinking its a baseball game, mouth wide open, asking for some ice cream. But Biden hasn't been to a single Army/Navy game....doesn't have the balls to show his face around true Americans. Would get booed out of the building.
I guess I take back my previous post. Please note that I am not indicating my political leanings. I'll simply state that I would be turned off by similar disparaging remarks about Trump.
 
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I saw a mention of the 15 mil ABC is paying, but did not see anyone mention the 700+ million Fox settled with Dominion lawsuit a few months ago, nor the 2.something billion lawsuit they have coming in 2025 from Smartmatic? What absolutely shocks me is people rely on Fox news and others, who tell them mainstream media is corrupt, when thats all they do 99% of the time is have these talking heads offering their opinions on things. In a previous lawsuit their attorney's argued no reasonable person would believe Fox or something like that as a defense, they are entertainment, not news. Another big issue is many younger people relying on youtube, pod, social medial broadcasts for their news.

Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."
 

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I saw a mention of the 15 mil ABC is paying, but did not see anyone mention the 700+ million Fox settled with Dominion lawsuit a few months ago, nor the 2.something billion lawsuit they have coming in 2025 from Smartmatic? What absolutely shocks me is people rely on Fox news and others, who tell them mainstream media is corrupt, when thats all they do 99% of the time is have these talking heads offering their opinions on things. In a previous lawsuit their attorney's argued no reasonable person would believe Fox or something like that as a defense, they are entertainment, not news. Another big issue is many younger people relying on youtube, pod, social medial broadcasts for their news.

Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

No one wins when we start to argue which side's propaganda lies the most.

Both sides are right about the other side.
 

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You know well and good that if crooked Joe or incompetent Kamala had been there every MSM would have made sure everyone knew it.
 
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I think its the two sides fighting against each other, vs for the American people that has got us in this mess. Didn't George Washington or someone back in the 1700's warn against a two party system? I know we have some smart people out there that should know this!
 
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I think its the two sides fighting against each other, vs for the American people that has got us in this mess. Didn't George Washington or someone back in the 1700's warn against a two party system? I know we have some smart people out there that should know this!
George Washington, in his farewell address, advised against forming political parties period. Not sure that I'm that smart. 🤷‍♂️

But the one thing I try hard to double down on is to be civil and respectful to all, regardless of whether or not we share the same political views. Glad to discuss issues, but please wipe your feet and leave personal attacks on people (politicians and non-politicians) outside the door.
 

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If Biden was there they would have fixated the camera on him standing there confused thinking its a baseball game, mouth wide open, asking for some ice cream. But Biden hasn't been to a single Army/Navy game....doesn't have the balls to show his face around true Americans. Would get booed out of the building.
You will be seeing Donald Trump going through the same aging process in the next 4 years. We need age limits.
 
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George Washington, in his farewell address, advised against forming political parties period. Not sure that I'm that smart. 🤷‍♂️

But the one thing I try hard to double down on is to be civil and respectful to all, regardless of whether or not we share the same political views. Glad to discuss issues, but please wipe your feet and leave personal attacks on people (politicians and non-politicians) outside the door.
Sorry, but "being civil" went out the window with a certain politicians "Deplorables" comment.

I do understand your sentiment but those days are over. One side should absolutely be cut off, shunned, and rejected. And they have been.
 
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Poor snowflakes. Stop the squeal widdle ones.
Cry when they win cry when they lose.
American Crybabies
the fact you are old as dirt and speak like this tells us all we need to know....typical lib....old asss body... 8 year old mentality
 

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I am totally amazed at how Trump has hoodwinked over a hundred million people.
He is totally owned by billionaire oligarchs and his whole agenda is to enrich himself and the people who bought him. The Senate, the House and the Supreme Court have all bowed down to him. The media (other than Fox News and the other propaganda outlets) is the only guard rail left. I’m afraid our country has totally failed educating our citizens. If you think the next four years are going to be good for the average person, you are sadly mistaken.
Trump is a billionaire. It’s Harris and Biden that are owned.
 

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At least one poster mentioned that Biden didn’t go to football games. So you really can’t compare Biden and Trump’s football coverage. Yes…Taylor Swift is shown all the time when she is at a game. That is one reason I don’t care for the Chiefs. With Trump…you have to

What does any of this have to do with sports? Trump DID NOT come to watch a football game. He came to be seen and promote his nominees and wealthy friends. I agree…strange that it was not mentioned that the president elect was at the game. It had to be a decision made not to show him. But those commenting on his not being shown…had to know by “some source” that he was going to be there. I didn’t know he was there, but almost every national news cast that night showed him at the game. But what does his victory and the Democrats have to do with the army/navy game? Lines have been drawn. Almost 40% of the registered voters…DID NOT vote. Did we discuss when Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc went to games?
It’s got the same thing to do with sports that Taylor Swift does at a Kansas City Chiefs game.
 

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It’s got the same thing to do with sports that Taylor Swift does at a Kansas City Chiefs game.
I don’t watch the Chiefs for I don’t like Taylor getting all that attention. I have no problem with Trump being at a game and getting filmed. Tradition. Nice to see him honor it. Unfortunately, he wasn’t thinking about tradition on Jan. 20, 2021.
 
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I don’t watch the Chiefs for I don’t like Taylor getting all that attention. I have no problem with Trump being at a game and getting filmed. Tradition. Nice to see him honor it. Unfortunately, he wasn’t thinking about tradition on Jan. 20, 2021.
yes he was celebrating with aryan hero penny
kyle rittenhouse should have been invited
 

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It’s got the same thing to do with sports that Taylor Swift does at a Kansas City Chiefs game.
If you hit the ignore button you won't have to deal with those who would be much happier living under Stalin, Castro or the like. You can debate them on the facts but they will never see the "light because their foolish heart has been darkened."
 

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George was right...its come to party over country these days, it does not matter if the issue/resolution is good for the majority of Americans, whichever side did not come up with it, will fight it to keep the other from having a political win. Just look at the recent immigration bipartisan bill, that was killed by Johnson because Trump did not want the issue solved so he could continue to use it for politics. Look at the NC general assembly, they recently tied reducing the incoming Governor's power to Hurricane Helene funding. Seriously, pass a hurricane bill free from BS. Current Gov vetoed it but because they still have a super majority, they override it. They have a super majority because a congresswoman from Charlotte ran as a Dem two years ago, then switched over to GOP immediately after the election. SMH....planned the whole time. Just heard, believe it was Florida, the GOP did the same thing. Gerrymandering the districts is bad enough, we are not picking our reps anymore folks, they pick a group of us they know will vote their way each election, no matter what they do or do not do. We are just pawns, being played by the rich and powerful.
 
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This is what makes me feel better and smile.......

Whatever, and I do mean WHATEVER it is "they" want for the next 2 years (at least) = automatic "No." They have lost. Everything. And it is glorious. Massive changes are coming. "oh, you want this?" No. "Oh, you want that?" No. Lol.

But yes, you are right. If it was Taylor "cat lady" Swift, or Obama in the suit, they'd have panned the suit at least every 10 minutes....
How would this be any different than the divisive nature of the last 10 years of the Republican party (aka the one kidnapped by MAGA)?

What you really mean is: adhering to the Constitution? We don't care. Honoring societal and political norms? We don't care. Maintaining a moral and ethical compass? We don't care. Nominating and empowering political appointees who are embroiled in scandal, have served time in prison, or may soon serve time in prison? Fake news and yes, please!
 

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yes he was celebrating with aryan hero penny
kyle rittenhouse should have been invited
He will probably celebrate Inauguration day with Luigi Mangione. And we now have Ambassador to the Bahamas…Herschel Walker. Donald Jr’s ex-fiancee, Kimberly Guilfoyle, going to be Ambassador to Greece. Made for TV Presidency. No writer could come up with all this stuff!
 
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If you hit the ignore button you won't have to deal with those who would be much happier living under Stalin, Castro or the like. You can debate them on the facts but they will never see the "light because their foolish heart has been darkened."
your vivid imagination summons up peeps wanting to live under a stalin
there are many aryans horny to live under a putin.....no homos no trans few blacks....no wokes
i love freedom within the parameters of the constitution
what you love is pointless
 
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How would this be any different than the divisive nature of the last 10 years of the Republican party (aka the one kidnapped by MAGA)?

What you really mean is: adhering to the Constitution? We don't care. Honoring societal and political norms? We don't care. Maintaining a moral and ethical compass? We don't care. Nominating and empowering political appointees who are embroiled in scandal, have served time in prison, or may soon serve time in prison? Fake news and yes, please!
The difference is .... (R)'s now have all the power and the (D)'s have none. There is no debate.

Is ripping down statues and artwork YOU DISAGREE WITH - (literal fascism btw) - societal norms?
Is weaponizing the FBI and DOJ against your political opponents political norms?

Morals: (D)'s have none. How many children have you VOTED TO mutilate today? - (Oh, we care greatly, and the child mutilations are going to stop)

Scandal: Like Bill Clinton and Monica? Like Obama and the weaponization of the IRS, Fast and Furious? Like Hillary and Benghazi?

I can literally do this all day to whatever rationalizations you want to come up with. Bottom line: Whatever libs want = automatic NO.
(D)'s lost. Everything. Lol.
 

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your vivid imagination summons up peeps wanting to live under a stalin
there are many aryans horny to live under a putin.....no homos no trans few blacks....no wokes
i love freedom within the parameters of the constitution
what you love is pointless
As long as that "freedom" agrees with your point of view - right? Because if doesn't, it's called "deplorables", "racist", etc..... all the buzzwords.
I'm sure you know them all.
 
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I saw a mention of the 15 mil ABC is paying, but did not see anyone mention the 700+ million Fox settled with Dominion lawsuit a few months ago, nor the 2.something billion lawsuit they have coming in 2025 from Smartmatic? What absolutely shocks me is people rely on Fox news and others, who tell them mainstream media is corrupt, when thats all they do 99% of the time is have these talking heads offering their opinions on things. In a previous lawsuit their attorney's argued no reasonable person would believe Fox or something like that as a defense, they are entertainment, not news. Another big issue is many younger people relying on youtube, pod, social medial broadcasts for their news.

Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."
Wasn’t it Rachel Maddow that stated in a court filling that she doesn’t provide factual news and her audience doesn’t expect her to provide facts?
 
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That sounds more like Tucker CT, but I do not know really. Throw me a few google links to legit sites. I do not watch Rachel but I do not remember hearing anything on this but that does not mean it is not true.

The latest filings in the case suggest Mr Carlson expressed his dislike of the outgoing US president two days before Trump supporters stormed the US Capitol to derail lawmakers from certifying Joe Biden's election win.
"We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights," he wrote in a text sent on 4 January 2021. "I truly can't wait."
"I hate him passionately," he added.
Mr Carlson, the top-rated host on the conservative network, also appeared to denigrate the Trump presidency in these private messages, despite lauding his achievements on air.

I wish it would have gone to trial so more info like this would have come out, however Fox decided they would rather pay 787,000,000.00 to keep it from going to trial. Cant wait to see what Smartmatic does to them with their 2.7 Billion lawsuit with Fox. Looks like they already got Newsmax although I cannot find an amount anywhere.

 
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Wasn’t it Rachel Maddow that stated in a court filling that she doesn’t provide factual news and her audience doesn’t expect her to provide facts?
No…that was Tucker Carlson…in a law suit. He said under oath he did not always give factual news.
 

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Wasn’t it Rachel Maddow that stated in a court filling that she doesn’t provide factual news and her audience doesn’t expect her to provide facts?
I got your back....

I do not believe Rachel ever SAID THAT in a court filing...... the (democrat - of course) Judge said it for her in a case that was dismissed.....

OAN news sued Rachel because she said OAN was: “the most obsequiously pro-Trump right wing news outlet in America really literally is paid Russian propaganda." Link below....

The (corrupt democrat judge - Obama appointee, of course) Dismissed the case in spite of the word "literally" - saying the following:

"For her to exaggerate the facts and call OAN Russian propaganda was consistent with her tone up to that point, and the Court finds a reasonable viewer would not take the statement as factual given this context." - interestingly, the corrupt judge left out the word "literally"

The article goes on to cover Tucker Carlson and his particular ruling, stating: "This court ruling has become a very common argument used by liberals to claim that even Fox acknowledges that Carlson lies. Indeed, Maddow's own colleague Chris Hayes — whose MSNBC program is broadcast at the same time as Carlson's and routinely attracts less than 1/3 of the Fox host's audience — has repeatedly cited this court case to argue that even Fox admits Carlson is a liar, without bothering to note that his companies’ lawyers made exactly the same claims about his mentor, Rachel Maddow, to defend her from a defamation lawsuit"

Of course, the left NEVER MENTIONS that part.... the relevant part.... of course.

 
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No…that was Tucker Carlson…in a law suit. He said under oath he did not always give factual news.
That is a lie..... and a *PERFECT* example of the liberal BS... and how it's viewers blindly believe it simply because they want it to be true....
and then they turn right around and parrot that lie..... and they're not even parroting the right lie..... lol.....

You're blending stories and falsehoods - and presenting it as fact - the PRECISE reason why the left has been thoroughly rejected.....and soon to be silenced. Hopefully forever.

NOWHERE - *NOWHERE* - does it say - nor will you find any article stating "He said under oath he did not always give factual news"

Keep lying - it's precisely why the left lost. Everything.


 
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While the simple minded public, like some of those on here, is busy arguing R's and D's, the real issues are being ignored. Thats the entire plan, Distract.
None of our core problems are going to be addressed by either party. The vast majority of both sides are in on it. The arguments we see are distractions. Its all a side show.
We need to forget what we think about one party being the hero and the other being the zero.
We need to realize its the people vs the deep state. Whether you like Trump or not, he is the only one willing to challenge the status quo. It goes way deep. It goes deeper than one can even imagine. If it wasnt a big deal then why would the deep state be going after him like they are?
Its funny but not funny reading some of the posts here where some posters, obviously those of low IQ, have bought into this Trump is satan narrative that they are being fed. Look past the surface and think about what you are being told. Then assume the opposite. Think for yourself.
Quit submitting to control.
 

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That is a lie..... and a *PERFECT* example of the liberal BS... and how it's viewers blindly believe it simply because they want it to be true....
and then they turn right around and parrot that lie..... and they're not even parroting the right lie..... lol.....

You're blending stories and falsehoods - and presenting it as fact - the PRECISE reason why the left has been thoroughly rejected.....and soon to be silenced. Hopefully forever.

NOWHERE - *NOWHERE* - does it say - nor will you find any article stating "He said under oath he did not always give factual news"

Keep lying - it's precisely why the left lost. Everything.


Did you read your own article? It says Tucker’s disposition was so redacted…that it was not possible to prove exactly all the things he did say. Also, it states that pages of his testimony were even missing. And ironically after that…he was no longer employed by Fox.
 

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Did you read your own article? It says Tucker’s disposition was so redacted…that it was not possible to prove exactly all the things he did say. Also, it states that pages of his testimony were even missing. And ironically after that…he was no longer employed by Fox.
Yes, I did.......

Please point out to me where Tucker said under oath "he did not always give factual news".......AS YOU STATED HE SAID.....

YOU CAN'T - Which is entirely my point...... under the redacted part, HE COULD HAVE SAID he was green Martian....... or a magical unicorn.....
We simply don't know what he said or did not say.....

YOU do not get to make up flat out lies simply because you want it to be true...... This is not complicated.
 

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Did you read your own article? It says Tucker’s disposition was so redacted…that it was not possible to prove exactly all the things he did say. Also, it states that pages of his testimony were even missing. And ironically after that…he was no longer employed by Fox.

He was no longer employed by Fox becauss he was getting too close to truths and that was a threat to Fox. Fox isnt what people think it is.
 

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Yes, I did.......

Please point out to me where Tucker said under oath "he did not always give factual news".......AS YOU STATED HE SAID.....

YOU CAN'T - Which is entirely my point...... under the redacted part, HE COULD HAVE SAID he was green Martian....... or a magical unicorn.....
We simply don't know what he said or did not say.....

YOU do not get to make up flat out lies simply because you want
Yes, I did.......

Please point out to me where Tucker said under oath "he did not always give factual news".......AS YOU STATED HE SAID.....

YOU CAN'T - Which is entirely my point...... under the redacted part, HE COULD HAVE SAID he was green Martian....... or a magical unicorn.....
We simply don't know what he said or did not say.....

YOU do not get to make up flat out lies simply because you want it to be true...... This is not complicated.

Trump minutes later was spotted standing next to Vance, shaking his fist and waving to the crowd as it chanted “USA! USA!” and then saluting during the singing of the National Anthem.

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The difference is .... (R)'s now have all the power and the (D)'s have none. There is no debate.

Is ripping down statues and artwork YOU DISAGREE WITH - (literal fascism btw) - societal norms?
Is weaponizing the FBI and DOJ against your political opponents political norms?

Morals: (D)'s have none. How many children have you VOTED TO mutilate today? - (Oh, we care greatly, and the child mutilations are going to stop)

Scandal: Like Bill Clinton and Monica? Like Obama and the weaponization of the IRS, Fast and Furious? Like Hillary and Benghazi?

I can literally do this all day to whatever rationalizations you want to come up with. Bottom line: Whatever libs want = automatic NO.
(D)'s lost. Everything. Lol.
Morals:
Had affairs on ALL 3 wives. One wife claimed in court papers he raped her. Married one wife AFTER daughter was born.
 

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Morals:
Had affairs on ALL 3 wives. One wife claimed in court papers he raped her. Married one wife AFTER daughter was born.

And right on cue......here's the deflection......

Where did Tucker say under oath "he did not always give factual news" ..... ??????

I've already caught you in a lie. After that, nothing you say matters. (This is exactly why your side lost everything.)
 
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And right on cue......here's the deflection......

Where did Tucker say under oath "he did not always give factual news" ..... ??????

I've already caught you in a lie. After that, nothing you say matters. (This is exactly why your side lost everything..
Rape of wife, illegitimate child, and extramarital affairs…are called MORALS and SCANDALS…which you brought up. These are documented facts. I am sure we won’t have any problems for the next 4 years with President Musk running the country. No need to continue debating a fellow USC fan. (Happy holidays and Go Gamecocks!)
 
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Rape of wife, illegitimate child, and extramarital affairs…are called MORALS and SCANDALS…which you brought up. These are documented facts. I am sure we won’t have any problems for the next 4 years with President Musk running the country. No need to continue debating a fellow USC fan. (Happy holidays and Go Gamecocks!)
Where did Tucker say under oath "he did not always give factual news" - ??

Stop deflecting and answer the question.
 
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