Anyone else ready for Dak to demand a trade?

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He isn't perfect, but he 17ing deserves better.
 
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Oops! Green Scored Again! CeeDee throws another tantrum but is still covered.

He isn't perfect, but he 17ing deserves better.
Why would he want to play anywhere else but Dallas? His value is higher both on the field and off in Dallas than any other market. They are - and will probably forever be - America’s team.
 

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Dallas needs a QB and Dak needs a brain. Love him or hate him, he’s a gum chewing jock, future volunteer firefighter and dumber than a tin foil ball holding marinated pecan wood.

He couldn’t win the big one if he had every Dallas Allstar ever on one roster. He’s maxed and Dallas should be shopping him while his stock is still high.

Love the kid, dumb as tick tacks in a tube sock.
 
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Dak. Numbers are misleading. They constantly run up the score and pad stats in games that dont matter.

There is a reason why Dak, despite the numbers. Isnt in the MVP conversation. He's not a top 10 Qb in the league, and the only reason he gets the attention he does is BECAUSE he plays for the cowboys.

If Dak were released today where would he go?

Tampa, Washington, New Orleans, Seattle, Denver, Atlanta, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, New England, Cleveland, NYG

Thats really about it. He wouldnt be an upgrade over the rest of the league... and when you throw in his contract.. you can probably subtract 2-3 more teams on the list above.

He's overpaid for his talent. Way overpaid.
 

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I acutally like Dak. But i'm also a realist. Some fans think he's got it bad. He's actually got it VERY good. He was handed a starting position in the NFL with a wealth of talent around him. He's been surrounded by at times, the best OL in the league, all-pro wideouts, solid TE's, and probably a HOF running back as well.... and he's in the eyes of most, under performed, and the team without question as not ever lived up to expectations in his time as the QB.
 

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I love him too and glad he's made a crap load of money. But if he wants to play somewhere else he will probably have to take a cut in pay.

Throw in the fact that his contract, is such a big salary cap hit, thats why the guys like Cooper and Elliott, and some of the OL had to leave.

And its about to hamstring the cowboys even more.
 
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Dak reminds me of Lebron personality-wise. Very like-able, but is he a real leader? You gotta be an a-hole sometimes. Like Jordan, Brady, etc. if you want to be great.
 
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Dallas needs a QB and Dak needs a brain. Love him or hate him, he’s a gum chewing jock, future volunteer firefighter and dumber than a tin foil ball holding marinated pecan wood.

He couldn’t win the big one if he had every Dallas Allstar ever on one roster. He’s maxed and Dallas should be shopping him while his stock is still high.

Love the kid, dumb as tick tacks in a tube sock.
So, I guess you think you could take him in chess….
 
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Dallas needs a QB and Dak needs a brain. Love him or hate him, he’s a gum chewing jock, future volunteer firefighter and dumber than a tin foil ball holding marinated pecan wood.

He couldn’t win the big one if he had every Dallas Allstar ever on one roster. He’s maxed and Dallas should be shopping him while his stock is still high.

Love the kid, dumb as tick tacks in a tube sock.
There’s stupid, there’s dumb as 17 and then there’s the idiotic word salad you just put out there which is beyond words.

My god.
 

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Dak. Numbers are misleading. They constantly run up the score and pad stats in games that dont matter.

There is a reason why Dak, despite the numbers. Isnt in the MVP conversation. He's not a top 10 Qb in the league, and the only reason he gets the attention he does is BECAUSE he plays for the cowboys.

If Dak were released today where would he go?

Tampa, Washington, New Orleans, Seattle, Denver, Atlanta, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, New England, Cleveland, NYG

Thats really about it. He wouldnt be an upgrade over the rest of the league... and when you throw in his contract.. you can probably subtract 2-3 more teams on the list above.

He's overpaid for his talent. Way overpaid.
Care to explain how Dak is officially an MVP candidate, literally, yet isn’t in the conversation for MVP?
 

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Oops! Green Scored Again! CeeDee throws another tantrum but is still covered.

He isn't perfect, but he 17ing deserves better.
He never should have come out and tried to absorb all the blame from the playoff game. Now, every mouth breather out there is running with it.

No QB in the league would’ve succeeded with no blocking, no run game, WR’s dropping easy passes AND having to play from behind the whole game. None of the fanboys want to believe that Dallas has a garbage team…. But outside of about maybe 5 players, it’s true.

I’d love to see him go somewhere that emphasizes winning championships, but those places are few and far between. Could you imagine him at San Fran?? The QB they have is literally a water boy.
 

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He never should have come out and tried to absorb all the blame from the playoff game. Now, every mouth breather out there is running with it.

No QB in the league would’ve succeeded with no blocking, no run game, WR’s dropping easy passes AND having to play from behind the whole game. None of the fanboys want to believe that Dallas has a garbage team…. But outside of about maybe 5 players, it’s true.

I’d love to see him go somewhere that emphasizes winning championships, but those places are few and far between. Could you imagine him at San Fran?? The QB they have is literally a water boy.

He came into the league with so much talent around him it was silly. He did nothing with it. Actually he came into the league in a similar situatuon as the water boy they have playing QB now. Water boy is winning playoff games.

Lets not forget 1 pick that led to points inside the 20, and a pick 6. Hard to come back from those, in the playoff game.

Facts are, no he didnt lose the game by himself. But he's the 50 million dollar man. He's held to a higher standard. And the team has consistantly underperformed with him at QB.

All that being said. Dak isnt in a bad situation and was never in a bad situation. He was actually set up for success early in his career. They have drafted offensive players to put around him. And they are over-paying him. He's got it real good. He just needsd to keep up his end of the bargain. I see why he catches the grief he does.
 

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He came into the league with so much talent around him it was silly. He did nothing with it. Actually he came into the league in a similar situatuon as the water boy they have playing QB now. Water boy is winning playoff games.

Lets not forget 1 pick that led to points inside the 20, and a pick 6. Hard to come back from those, in the playoff game.

Facts are, no he didnt lose the game by himself. But he's the 50 million dollar man. He's held to a higher standard. And the team has consistantly underperformed with him at QB.

All that being said. Dak isnt in a bad situation and was never in a bad situation. He was actually set up for success early in his career. They have drafted offensive players to put around him. And they are over-paying him. He's got it real good. He just needsd to keep up his end of the bargain. I see why he catches the grief he does.
They played Aaron Rodgers in their first playoff game. They had a 1st round bye. And he was a rookie. “Did nothing with it” doesn’t apply here.

It’s been a mess since then because the entire supporting cast either withered away (Zeek) or got dumped.
 
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He had an MVP caliber season with the worst roster of any of the candidates: Purdy and McCaffrey, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. That doesn’t happen because he’s a bad QB.

Your kidding right?

CeeDee lamb is better than anyone Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen has to throw too. Im sure Josh Allen would love the Dallas OL as well. Lets please talk about all the "weapons" Lamar Jackson as around. You are right with SF, but on the offensive side of the things. They are one of the few teams that have more weapons than Dallas does.
 
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They played Aaron Rodgers in their first playoff game. They had a 1st round bye. And he was a rookie. “Did nothing with it” doesn’t apply here.

It’s been a mess since then because the entire supporting cast either withered away (Zeek) or got dumped.

Been a mess since year 1?

Elliott was a produtive all-pro type back for the first 5 years of Dak's career

Dak started with a prime Dez Bryant and very good Jason Witten still playing. When they started to fade Amari Cooper who was an All-Pro entered the picture, followed by years of Cooper and Lamb, before Cooper had to be phased out because of money.

Not to mention for the first 5 years of his career Dallas had without question the best OL in the league, and still does have one of the highest graded OLs in the league.

Andy Dalton was productive with this group when Dak went down.

Dallas has ALWAYS had weapons around Dak. And drafted weapons to put around Dak.
 

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If Dak demanded a trade and went to the Falcons, he would be another Kirk Cousins. A very good quarterback with little playoff success who nobody really thinks about that much. The reason he is so marketable is because he plays for the Cowboys. The Cowboys QB is the most marketable position in the NFL.
 
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OK so you give Dak a pass for a rookie losing at HOME as a FAV.

He's 2-5 in the playoffs. Of the 5 losses, 3 have been home losses, 3 have been games he was favored to win.

I'd say thats squandering opportunities. Home games where your favored and lose... not a good look.

BTW: The waterboy in SF-- as a rookie, went 2-0 as a rookie, before getting injured and losing the Philly game, and is 3-1 overall in the playoffs--- thats taking advantage of opporutnies, even as a rookie--- something Dak didnt do nor has he shown to be able to do.
 

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Your kidding right?

CeeDee lamb is better than anyone Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen has to throw too. Im sure Josh Allen would love the Dallas OL as well. Lets please talk about all the "weapons" Lamar Jackson as around. You are right with SF, but on the offensive side of the things. They are one of the few teams that have more weapons than Dallas does.
Both the Ravens and Bills have running QBs. But if you think Josh Allen has nobody to throw to, I swear you need to just log off. Having one single WR can be worthless at times. Dallas has Lamb and literally nobody else. And if you really think anybody would trade OL’s with Dallas, I’m floored.

Again, Dak had an MVP caliber season with having one WR, no running game, a weak OL and a schizophrenic defense. That’s noteworthy whether you want to believe it or not.
 

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No fan base is happy with a QB until they into the Super Bowl. They will always ***** and moan.
 
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Your kidding right?

CeeDee lamb is better than anyone Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen has to throw too. Im sure Josh Allen would love the Dallas OL as well. Lets please talk about all the "weapons" Lamar Jackson as around. You are right with SF, but on the offensive side of the things. They are one of the few teams that have more weapons than Dallas does.
This is simply not true. Dak's receivers get zero separation, which was extremely apparent against Green Bay. Josh Allen has Gabe Davis at #6 in the League and Khalil Shakir at #12. Lamar Jackson has Odell, when he is healthy at #8, and stud tight end in Mark Andrews (which Ferguson may turn out to be). There isn't a Cowboy in the top #25, and all you have to do is watch a game to realize it. Does Dak miss throws he should make and boneheaded plays? Absolutely. Does Dak ever have wideopen receivers like his opponents? Nope.

Link for facts instead of opinions: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-yards-of-separation-average-per-team-2023-wr
 

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OK so you give Dak a pass for a rookie losing at HOME as a FAV.

He's 2-5 in the playoffs. Of the 5 losses, 3 have been home losses, 3 have been games he was favored to win.

I'd say thats squandering opportunities. Home games where your favored and lose... not a good look.

BTW: The waterboy in SF-- as a rookie, went 2-0 as a rookie, before getting injured and losing the Philly game, and is 3-1 overall in the playoffs--- thats taking advantage of opporutnies, even as a rookie--- something Dak didnt do nor has he shown to be able to do.
I think your fatal flaw is that you are putting everything on a single player. The waterboy is surrounded by elite talent and has an elite head coach. Anybody could do what he’s doing, and San Fran had been rolling way before he came to town. Dallas has been a dumpster fire for 30 years.

And if you think this past playoff loss was on Dak, you simply can’t be helped. The pass to Cooks that was picked was neither on Dak nor Cooks…. Cooks couldn’t even extended his arms because he was being held so badly. Your hero, Lamb, was garbage. The defense was a sieve, and there was no running game or blocking.

Outside of a running QB, nobody would have succeeded in that game. And even with a running QB, where would the blocking come from?
 

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Dallas ranked as 6th
Buffalo 16th

Buffalo
WR 1 Diggs 103, 1183, 8
WR 2 Davis 45, 746, 7
WR 3, Shakier, 39, 611, 2
TE 1, Kincaid, 46, 746, 7
RB 1, Cook 1137 yards

Dallas
WR 1 Lamb 135, 1746, 12
WR 2, Cooks, 71, 761, 5
WR 3, Gallup, 34, 318, 2
TE 1, Ferg, 71, 761, 5
RB 1, Pollard 1005 yards

I'd say Dallas has more weapons.

and again lets not even talk about Baltimore. Comical to think that the Dallas offensive side of the ball isnt oozing with talent. Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen both would BEGGGGG for the weapons dallas has
 

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This is simply not true. Dak's receivers get zero separation, which was extremely apparent against Green Bay. Josh Allen has Gabe Davis at #6 in the League and Khalil Shakir at #12. Lamar Jackson has Odell, when he is healthy at #8, and stud tight end in Mark Andrews (which Ferguson may turn out to be). There isn't a Cowboy in the top #25, and all you have to do is watch a game to realize it. Does Dak miss throws he should make and boneheaded plays? Absolutely. Does Dak ever have wideopen receivers like his opponents? Nope.

Link for facts instead of opinions: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-yards-of-separation-average-per-team-2023-wr

That has to be the dumbest list ever. Yards of seperation. Most of the guys on that list run deep routes. Meaning a few busts and you have an open reciever with 10 yards of seperation. George Pickens being at the top of any list and guys Alec Pierce and Shaheed from New Orleans says exactly what the list is.
 

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Dallas needs a QB and Dak needs a brain. Love him or hate him, he’s a gum chewing jock, future volunteer firefighter and dumber than a tin foil ball holding marinated pecan wood.

He couldn’t win the big one if he had every Dallas Allstar ever on one roster. He’s maxed and Dallas should be shopping him while his stock is still high.

Love the kid, dumb as tick tacks in a tube sock.
You misspelled tic tacs.
 

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I think your fatal flaw is that you are putting everything on a single player. The waterboy is surrounded by elite talent and has an elite head coach. Anybody could do what he’s doing, and San Fran had been rolling way before he came to town. Dallas has been a dumpster fire for 30 years.

And if you think this past playoff loss was on Dak, you simply can’t be helped. The pass to Cooks that was picked was neither on Dak nor Cooks…. Cooks couldn’t even extended his arms because he was being held so badly. Your hero, Lamb, was garbage. The defense was a sieve, and there was no running game or blocking.

Outside of a running QB, nobody would have succeeded in that game. And even with a running QB, where would the blocking come from?

Anyone could do what hes doing. All things said about Dak when he came in. Difference is the water boy is winning in situatuons where Dak couldnt.

Difference is others in the league. Like Jordan Love, are winning games with lesser talent around him and Dak cannot win. Guys making 1/25th of was Dak does like Baker Mayfield are finding ways to win games in the playoffs when it matters while Dak is throwing pick 6's, failing to get down a ball can get spiked for a FG, and many other boneheaded plays that are leading to losses.
 

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BTW: Dallas had 2 OL make the All-Pro team.

So yeah that OL is a major problem
 

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Anyone could do what hes doing. All things said about Dak when he came in. Difference is the water boy is winning in situatuons where Dak couldnt.

Difference is others in the league. Like Jordan Love, are winning games with lesser talent around him and Dak cannot win. Guys making 1/25th of was Dak does like Baker Mayfield are finding ways to win games in the playoffs when it matters while Dak is throwing pick 6's, failing to get down a ball can get spiked for a FG, and many other boneheaded plays that are leading to losses.
There’s nothing “lesser” about Green Bay’s talent. Or Houston’s. They’re just young and they’ve competently built teams for the future. Dallas has not.

You really think Jordan Love would’ve had an MVP season on the Cowboys this year?

You say you like Dak, but your arguments don’t indicate that at all. You may as well be on 105.3 The Fan mouth breathing with those yokels.
 
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