What a lame graphic by Spielberg College.
Still, gotta appreciate the emphasis on
P E N N S T A T E N I T T A N Y L I O N S
Still, gotta appreciate the emphasis on
P E N N S T A T E N I T T A N Y L I O N S
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This means Penn State will need to find someone to schedule as a rival to end the year. This is obviously the first step to renewing the yearly game against Pitt!!!I'm beginning to warm to the idea. Reminds me a little of the independent days.
I wi see when the naysayers will learn? The Big10 treats PSU equitably? Believing it is laughable!
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Unrivaled.What is odd is every team has a "protected game" except for Penn State. These are the rivalry games that will occur every year.
I think we play MSU the first two. Afterward, it will vary.PSU is in a unique situation regarding rivalries. We have new Big 10 rivals with relatively recent histories, and old Eastern rivals with longer histories. All of the Big 10 protected rivalry games are long-standing rivalries. PSU’s long-standing rivals are Eastern schools. But when PSU joined the Big 10, it gave up 30 years of consistent games with those teams. Of PSU’s Eastern rivals, only Maryland and Rutgers are Big 10 members. Those rivalries are very one sided in favor of PSU. Most of the Big 10 protected rivalry games are regional in interest. They are based on geography and tradition. Floyd of Rosedale is a cool trophy, but the game doesn’t have the same appeal as two highly ranked teams. PSU vs Michigan, Ohio State and USC are bigger draws. I wouldn’t be surprised if PSU took a pass on a protected rival game in favor of cycling through opponents to prevent staleness.
Two questions:
1. What team will PSU play as the final game of the season? A Big 10 team or OOC?
2. Will USC vs UCLA will be played the same day as The Game?
For those who wish to have a protected rivalry game, who on Earth would you want to be stuck with? Everyone would be throwing a sh*t fit if it were OSU or Rutgers. Maybe USC?
Seems nobody got stuck with two tier-one opponents, so they wouldn’t do that to OSU. USC maybe, but would USC agree to that when they’re already stuck with ND plus the Big Ten?I'd take OSU. Or USC. Or both actually. Much rather play big time teams than Rutgers or Maryland.
Might help if PSU ever stood up for itself. Difficult position to assume when it so loves taking it up the wazzu.I wi see when the naysayers will learn? The Big10 treats PSU equitably? Believing it is laughable!
Hmm, I know someone who has front row seats thereWith that mentality, we should play our games in the Champs parking lot.
Why wouldn't it be? The Game is played at 12 noon EST, and the Mayor's Cup Game can be played at 4 pm EST, which is 1 pm on the West Coast. So......yeah......2. Will USC vs UCLA will be played the same day as The Game?
USC typically plays ND the last game when it is their turn for a home game in the series. Will the B1G allow this to continue and impact another conference team’s scheduling?Why wouldn't it be? The Game is played at 12 noon EST, and the Mayor's Cup Game can be played at 4 pm EST, which is 1 pm on the West Coast. So......yeah......
USC typically plays ND the last game when it is their turn for a home game in the series. Will the B1G allow this to continue and impact another conference team’s scheduling?
If B1G makes USC-UCLA the last game every season, there aren’t going to be many options for PSU’s last game besides MSU, unless RU-MD stop being a final game.
I would imgaine they would, as that would mean that the networks have a guaranteed west coast game for an East Coast audience.USC typically plays ND the last game when it is their turn for a home game in the series. Will the B1G allow this to continue and impact another conference team’s scheduling?
If B1G makes USC-UCLA the last game every season, there aren’t going to be many options for PSU’s last game besides MSU, unless RU-MD stop being a final game.
Isn't 2025 the year the West stands are supposed to be ripped apart...might be for the best that the 2025 home schedule sucks, so when it's not finished in time for football there is less bitching2025 road schedule. Ouch. At Iowa, UM, MSU and USC in the same season. Wowsa. The home schedule is incredibly weak that season, they need to beef up the nonconference slate or tickets will be plentiful that year.
We really do not have any rivals. I believe this schedule is basically what Penn Sate wanted. The Big Ten finaly listened to Penn State for once. It also made their scheduling job easier, so they were fine with the idea.No protected rivals F the B10 Gene Smith and Barry Alvarez. The only school not have a protected rival F the Big10.
This is exactly right. I do not like the Big Ten. It was the only viable option available at the time and it turned out to be a giant money shower. However, we will never truly be at home in this conference. It is designed to favor the Legacy Powers. Anyway, there is nothing to be done about it now.PSU is in a unique situation regarding rivalries. We have new Big 10 rivals with relatively recent histories, and old Eastern rivals with longer histories. All of the Big 10 protected rivalry games are long-standing rivalries. PSU’s long-standing rivals are Eastern schools. But when PSU joined the Big 10, it gave up 30 years of consistent games with those teams. Of PSU’s Eastern rivals, only Maryland and Rutgers are Big 10 members. Those rivalries are very one sided in favor of PSU. Most of the Big 10 protected rivalry games are regional in interest. They are based on geography and tradition. Floyd of Rosedale is a cool trophy, but the game doesn’t have the same appeal as two highly ranked teams. PSU vs Michigan, Ohio State and USC are bigger draws. I wouldn’t be surprised if PSU took a pass on a protected rival game in favor of cycling through opponents to prevent staleness.
Two questions:
1. What team will PSU play as the final game of the season? A Big 10 team or OOC?
2. Will USC vs UCLA will be played the same day as The Game?
This is classic SEC strategy!We'll play Mercer. Or Temple. Or Kent State. Or maybe that will be our Bye week?
Okay, let’s list the possibilities.Might help if PSU ever stood up for itself. Difficult position to assume when it so loves taking it up the wazzu.
We really do not have any rivals. I believe this schedule is basically what Penn Sate wanted. The Big Ten finaly listened to Penn State for once. It also made their scheduling job easier, so they were fine with the idea.
I posted before seeing this earlier post. Evidently @Stephen Light sees the situation as #1Okay, let’s list the possibilities.
1. PSU requested that they not be assigned any protected rival.
2. PSU overlooked the memo and forgot to request a protected rival.
3. PSU requested at least one protected rival but the B1G said nfw.
I’ve got no idea but do imagine that Kraft will be asked what’s what. I think it has to be either 1 or 3. Kraft would never admit 2, anyway, but details of those sort of screwups tend to leak. The media will ask these specific questions for sure.
Kraft answers #1 regardless of what happened. Then it's matter of whether his rationale withstands scrutiny.Okay, let’s list the possibilities.
1. PSU requested that they not be assigned any protected rival.
2. PSU overlooked the memo and forgot to request a protected rival.
3. PSU requested at least one protected rival but the B1G said nfw.
I’ve got no idea but do imagine that Kraft will be asked what’s what. I think it has to be either 1 or 3. Kraft would never admit 2, anyway, but details of those sort of screwups tend to leak. The media will ask these specific questions for sure.
I have to say the likelihood seems to be 1 > 3 >> 2.Okay, let’s list the possibilities.
1. PSU requested that they not be assigned any protected rival.
2. PSU overlooked the memo and forgot to request a protected rival.
3. PSU requested at least one protected rival but the B1G said nfw.
I’ve got no idea but do imagine that Kraft will be asked what’s what. I think it has to be either 1 or 3. Kraft would never admit 2, anyway, but details of those sort of screwups tend to leak. The media will ask these specific questions for sure.
Kraft answers #1 regardless of what happened. Then it's matter of whether his rationale withstands scrutiny.
Doubt that 2 is the case. Started by thinking that 1 and 3 are equiprobable, but and gradually moving to the belief that it's 3.I have to say the likelihood seems to be 1 > 3 >> 2.
Equiprobable, very good.Doubt that 2 is the case. Started by thinking that 1 and 3 are equiprobable, but and gradually moving to the belief that it's 3.
4. Big Ten forgot Penn State is a member of the conference.Okay, let’s list the possibilities.
1. PSU requested that they not be assigned any protected rival.
2. PSU overlooked the memo and forgot to request a protected rival.
3. PSU requested at least one protected rival but the B1G said nfw.
I’ve got no idea but do imagine that Kraft will be asked what’s what. I think it has to be either 1 or 3. Kraft would never admit 2, anyway, but details of those sort of screwups tend to leak. The media will ask these specific questions for sure.
Trying to picture possible scenarios of #3. Here’s one: PSU asked for OSU but was denied because OSU already has Michigan and didn’t want to play both UM and PSU every year. (Just saying: I’m catching up on the thread and it’s possible that someone had already made this particular suggestion. I respect priority.)Doubt that 2 is the case. Started by thinking that 1 and 3 are equiprobable, but and gradually moving to the belief that it's 3.
Pretty much my thinking. Also possible that PSU requested Rutgers and/or Maryland (my reasoning is unimportant so I'll skip it) and both said "no."Trying to picture possible scenarios of #3. Here’s one: PSU asked for OSU but was denied because OSU already has Michigan and didn’t want to play both UM and PSU every year. (Just saying: I’m catching up on the thread and it’s possible that someone had already made this particular suggestion. I respect priority.)
Interesting. I was also thinking that maybe Maryland had requested PSU (think of the sellouts for MD home games) but PSU said no. Whatevs.Pretty much my thinking. Also possible that PSU requested Rutgers and/or Maryland (my reasoning is unimportant so I'll skip it) and both said "no."
It’s obvious we miss Sandy navigating these challenging situations.
We never lose to Maryland and never beat OSU.I just can't understand why Penn State doesn't have at least one protected rival... I would have assumed OSU and/or Maryland... I don't get it. Absolutely dumbfounded.