We never lose to Maryland and never beat OSU.
Tomorrow never knows.
We never lose to Maryland and never beat OSU.
This may shoot up to #1 in the probability list.4. Big Ten forgot Penn State is a member of the conference.
Nothing to disagree with here. However, the only way the stands are full is if it is a meaningful game. The only post-Thanksgiving home game that even came close to a full house was Sparty in 2016. Even then, the students weren't back yet but managed a half full or so student section IIRC. Announced attendance was 97k+ but in reality probably 10k less.One would hope that the one thing PSU demanded was a decent end of year game each year.
Playing home finales against the likes of Rutgers and Maryland, with 2/3 empty stands - while the rest of the big-time football world is making their final statements playing games like OSU-Michigan, USC-UCLA, Auburn-Alabama, TAMU-LSU, Florida-Florida State is the epitome of bush league.
Based on what we have seen thus far, the BEST they are likely to get for 2024 is Michigan State - and I'd wager dollars to donuts their 2025 season finale is Rutgers (with an outside shot at the powerhouse Minnesota Gophers)
Agree, but only way Penn State is going to get a quality last game going forward is to find another name school outside of B1G to agree to being last game of season in an alternating home and home.One would hope that the one thing PSU demanded was a decent end of year game each year.
Playing home finales against the likes of Rutgers and Maryland, with 2/3 empty stands - while the rest of the big-time football world is making their final statements playing games like OSU-Michigan, USC-UCLA, Auburn-Alabama, TAMU-LSU, Florida-Florida State is the epitome of bush league.
Based on what we have seen thus far, the BEST they are likely to get for 2024 is Michigan State - and I'd wager dollars to donuts their 2025 season finale is Rutgers (with an outside shot at the powerhouse Minnesota Gophers)
When ND eventually joins, they will be presumably be paired with USC, so our best bet is with the ACC schools in which case FSU or Miami would be most exciting IMHO.Agree, but only way Penn State is going to get a quality last game going forward is to find another name school outside of B1G to agree to being last game of season in an alternating home and home.
UCLA would always be USC’s final game of the regular season, much like OSU-UM. Assuming that ND joins, ND would need to find some team other than USC to end their season with. In such a situation, who would be the logical candidate?When ND eventually joins, they will be presumably be paired with USC, so our best bet is with the ACC schools in which case FSU or Miami would be most exciting IMHO.
Seems nobody got stuck with two tier-one opponents, so they wouldn’t do that to OSU. USC maybe, but would USC agree to that when they’re already stuck with ND plus the Big Ten?
Okay, let’s list the possibilities.
1. PSU requested that they not be assigned any protected rival.
2. PSU overlooked the memo and forgot to request a protected rival.
3. PSU requested at least one protected rival but the B1G said nfw.
I’ve got no idea but do imagine that Kraft will be asked what’s what. I think it has to be either 1 or 3. Kraft would never admit 2, anyway, but details of those sort of screwups tend to leak. The media will ask these specific questions for sure.
Good thought, but didn't Kraft say in the BOT meeting that capacity will never dip below 100k, both during or after construction, with the plans they have in place?Isn't 2025 the year the West stands are supposed to be ripped apart...might be for the best that the 2025 home schedule sucks, so when it's not finished in time for football there is less bitching
Think you nailed it.I'd bet on scenario #3. I'd imagine all teams submitted their preferred rivalry games, possibly in some sort of ranked order. The conference then likely reviewed which they considered must haves, aka OSU-UM, and nice to haves, aka anything PSU submitted.
Looking at the table I posted earlier, they may have also made a decision to give the four tier one programs - OSU, UM, PSU, USC - two games each against tier one opponents per season. Since OSU-UM is a must have protected game, the PSU-OSU game couldn't be protected unless you either (1) give OSU a third game against a tier 1 opponent or (2) decide that OSU will never get to play USC. I doubt the networks would allow the latter to happen, and I doubt OSU would agree to an extra tier one game unless each of UM, PSU and USC also all got a third tier one game. Doing that would put the conference right back where they are now with the top programs beating each other up and limiting possible playoff appearances. So the only compromise left on the table is to break up the PSU-OSU game.
It makes sense. I'd have liked to see our two big matchups be one home and one away though, for schedule balance. This is probably a one time deal, perhaps due to stadium renovation concerns as mentioned above. It creates a nice advantage for us in what is likely Allar's final year though, we need to be all in on a playoff run for 2024 because with 2025's road schedule it will be tough. UM is in the same situation only with the years flipped.Think you nailed it.
Of all of those factors Manny not being there is the one that might be the most unlikely. I hope I'm wrong but we have the players on defense in 23 for another standout year, so he'll get offers and he's said publicly that he eventually wants to be a head coach again.I like the way '24 is setting up for us. A lot.
5 home games, 4 away, none really tough. No Michigan. OSU at the Beav for the whiteout.
3rd (and possibly last) years for Allar, the backfield duo, King, Chop, and Abdul.
And hopefully Manny's hair will still be gracing the sideline.
Diaz is gone after this year.I like the way '24 is setting up for us. A lot.
5 home games, 4 away, none really tough. No Michigan. OSU at the Beav for the whiteout.
3rd (and possibly last) years for Allar, the backfield duo, King, Chop, and Abdul.
And hopefully Manny's hair will still be gracing the sideline.
Rumor is he has a barber at Rinaldo's that he really likes. Some things are worth more than money.Diaz is gone after this year.
He is being paid by Miami (to the tune of, IIRC, 3-4 million per year) through 2023 - so there was/is no financial motivation for him to leave PSU until then.
That ends at that point - and PSU (or anyone else) surely isn't going to pay him that kind of scratch to be a DC. He will be elsewhere for 2024.
It's a perfect setup for the TV folks on #2. OSU-Michigan at noon and then USC-UCLA in primetime.PSU is in a unique situation regarding rivalries. We have new Big 10 rivals with relatively recent histories, and old Eastern rivals with longer histories. All of the Big 10 protected rivalry games are long-standing rivalries. PSU’s long-standing rivals are Eastern schools. But when PSU joined the Big 10, it gave up 30 years of consistent games with those teams. Of PSU’s Eastern rivals, only Maryland and Rutgers are Big 10 members. Those rivalries are very one sided in favor of PSU. Most of the Big 10 protected rivalry games are regional in interest. They are based on geography and tradition. Floyd of Rosedale is a cool trophy, but the game doesn’t have the same appeal as two highly ranked teams. PSU vs Michigan, Ohio State and USC are bigger draws. I wouldn’t be surprised if PSU took a pass on a protected rival game in favor of cycling through opponents to prevent staleness.
Two questions:
1. What team will PSU play as the final game of the season? A Big 10 team or OOC?
2. Will USC vs UCLA will be played the same day as The Game?
Probably better since they renovated it. Before that, it largely depended on where you sat and some locations simply were bad.Thinking ahead. What’s the game experience like at the LA Coliseum?
I’m not sure how Nebraska and Iowa are a protected rival game, giving Iowa three. Why wouldn’t they just make PSU and Nebraska a protected game?
Don't believe it's that simple. Both schools would have to either request or approve the pairing. But since PSU has a history of silently taking it up the wazzu, you might have a point.I’m not sure how Nebraska and Iowa are a protected rival game, giving Iowa three. Why wouldn’t they just make PSU and Nebraska a protected game?