"Time to jump in and help."
It already doesn't.....
Have any of the other alumni appointed trustees joined the lawsuit or donated money? Jay? Lubrano?
If I were to donate to help prevent children's cancer, I certainly would not choose an arm of PSU, as THON ends up being--because money is fungible. I simply don't trust the folks running the asylum.Forget about THON and childhood Cancer! Donate that money to help a guy sue Penn State to find out if they might be paying too much in fees for money management!
If they did, they'd be kicked off the board by the new rules.
I believe I've seen this written here before and it's effing despicable. GTFOOH with this nonsense.
Seriously? Someone implied this to be true? That’s quite the conspiracy theory.I believe I've seen this written here before and it's effing despicable. GTFOOH with this nonsense.
It may have been him. I really don't know why these folks are here if they hate Penn State so much they even won't contribute to THON. It's for Child Cancer FFS.
IDK, several anonymous contributions. I imagine if they want to keep their access to the President's box at football games it's best to contribute anonymous.
So, you surmise that they are prioritizing keeping box seats at the football games over transparency of the board? Interesting. Have any of the alumni appointed trustees offered public support of the lawsuit?
The monies do not go directly to research. They go to Penn State (in the form of Hershey)--which does use them for research, but I do not trust the trustees of this university to use the money wisely. For one, it can be 100% used to fund research, but the university can reduce the other funding they give to research and use it in other ways, because the research is paid for already by THON. That's fungibility. This is the issue, in some states (Ohio included) where lottery money is earmarked for schools (in Ohio) or other projects in other states. In Ohio's case, through the years, the Legislature has then reduced other monies that were spent on education for other projects, as the lottery covered that amount they were spending previously. So there's really no additional benefit to education from the lottery. For another, due to the way Penn State works (and the way they are headed) there's no accountability. They are not subject to Sunshine laws, and requests for budget info are met with silence. Were I to donate to childhood cancer research, I'd pick a place like Children's Hospital here in Columbus, where they do have accountability. You are welcome do do with your money what you believe to be correct. But--it's not a matter of like or hate. It's a matter of trust. I love Penn State. I do not trust their leadership. And there are ample reasons for this.
Who cares? If they have as little influence as some infer here, what do they have to lose? What’s in it for them to toe the line?
Bullshît.
Why are you being like this? Are you just trying to be annoying? What a stupid conjecture you've made. I assume some anonymous donors were other Alumni Trustees but I don't know, however remaining in the President's box for football games and supporting transparency by donating are not mutually exclusive.
As I noted, you are more than welcome to spend your money the way you wish. Please consider doing others the courtesy of doing the same. You do not need foul language to make your point.
The two of us have kids on campus and we're the idiots? On a Penn State message board. I repeat, on a Penn State message board.
Will do. May I ask, when was the last time you were on campus?
I’m trying to be annoying by asking questions about the lawsuit and the support/lack of from other alumni appointed trustees? I’m sorry for trying to get all the information about the situation. I am curious as to why there hasn’t been any public comments or show of support by the other members? That seems like a fair question to ask. You seem to get upset pretty quickly when someone doesn’t follow your line of thinking.
Barry has gotten "ALL" of his "Trustee" benefits taken away because he simply asks questions. You don't see a problem with this and if you were a Trustee you would keep your mouth shut? We finally have someone to actually speak and you and many others want him to shut up??? What are you thinking...or not thinking???
Now you are putting words in my mouth. I never said I wanted Barry to shut up. I’m all for transparency. I am just curious why there hasn’t been support from the others? Don’t you think they would all be sticking together in the quest for transparency? Wouldn’t it be more effective if they all spoke out?
Nice deflection. It seems saying things with no proof as fact is part for the course these days.
Haven't you been paying attention to the voting records at all? The other Alumni Trustees only realized what was happening during the last vote. They have been eating onion dip and living large while exactly ONE person has attempted to make a difference.
But give more money even though Barry met his goal and acquired representation, right?
Each individual must, of course, make their own decisions.
2016, as I recall. We had season tickets up to 2013. Just got too expensive for us and the drive got to be a bit much. It's one thing to regularly drive 5-6 hours one way for a game when you are 40. It's another when you get into your 60s. STEP didn't help either with the expense. And, while I've enjoyed them, night games are a challenge for me. We do try to get to an away game each year. I'd had the thought of getting to each Big Ten venue, but that's become a lot more challenging with the addition of the four new schools. I do have a buddy that did it, though, finishing before the addition.
Columbus and Children's Hospital was dissed by a poster. I'm pointing out that they do a far, far better job than Hershey and that Hershey is far from an elite institution, even with all of the money from THON. With facts.
Married a local gal.... Who is *not* a Buckeye fan. Came here for grad school back in the late 1970s....A Penn Stater defending columbus. What have they done to you?
And good ice hockey--then. This was while PSU was still club hockey (my brother played for PSU in 1979). I also got to play 5 years of IM ice hockey (no checking), which was a blast. Saw guys like Jamie Macoun (who won the Cup later) for tOSU, Dave Poulin (Flyers) for ND, and Ken Morrow of Bowling Green (a hockey power at the time) who won the gold in Lake Placid and the Cup that same year. Most of my friends now never knew I was a rink rat in college in between my studies. I pretty much learned to skate at tOSU (I'd done a little in the old airplane hanger at PSU that later became a football practice areal--long before Lasch) and met my first GF that way (I was a late bloomer).Oof.
Bigger oof: I went to Illinois for graduate school. At least you got good football. I chose poorly.
You are making an apples and oranges comparison when talking about thon/4 diamonds money. First off, Nationwide Children’s is a great hospital. But the bulk of the money raised by thon ensures that thon families don’t receive a bill for medical services at Hershey. Nationwide does not have such a program. Money also funds research and additional services provided to the children. It’s really a shame that you are so jaded to believe the money is misused.
