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Nitt1300

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I have donated to St. Judes for many years. If you are looking for someone to donate to, you could do worse.
 
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kgilbert78

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You are making an apples and oranges comparison when talking about thon/4 diamonds money. First off, Nationwide Children’s is a great hospital. But the bulk of the money raised by thon ensures that thon families don’t receive a bill for medical services at Hershey. Nationwide does not have such a program. Money also funds research and additional services provided to the children. It’s really a shame that you are so jaded to believe the money is misused.
That's a good thing, but AFAIK, the money still goes through Penn State first. I wish I wasn't so "jaded", but the actions of PSU leadership over the past few years have given little reason for trust. Let me give an example of one way to do it right. My wife works for a non-profit in our town. They have open books. Anyone who want to see them can. They wish to avoid even the appearance of an issue. But PSU has been doing their best to hide the books, even from trustees. That does not engender trust.
 

BobPSU92

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I have donated to St. Judes for many years. If you are looking for someone to donate to, you could do worse.

You could do worse.

“Wouldn't you like to support a scone eater like me?” *pouty face*
 

GrimReaper

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You are making an apples and oranges comparison when talking about thon/4 diamonds money. First off, Nationwide Children’s is a great hospital. But the bulk of the money raised by thon ensures that thon families don’t receive a bill for medical services at Hershey. Nationwide does not have such a program. Money also funds research and additional services provided to the children. It’s really a shame that you are so jaded to believe the money is misused.
Just to clarify, for the year ended 6/30/23 Four Diamonds raised $29.5mm, $21.3mm of which was through Thon and Mini-Thons. Of that, $5.3mm, or about 18%, was devoted to patient care and family support. $3.9mm was spent for general administration. The remainder went to support research activities.
 

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That's a good thing, but AFAIK, the money still goes through Penn State first. I wish I wasn't so "jaded", but the actions of PSU leadership over the past few years have given little reason for trust. Let me give an example of one way to do it right. My wife works for a non-profit in our town. They have open books. Anyone who want to see them can. They wish to avoid even the appearance of an issue. But PSU has been doing their best to hide the books, even from trustees. That does not engender trust.
Remember, they are allowed to do this, because, "how dare you question something so great as a pediatric cancer charity" yet, you are spot on the nose... even in a best case scenario, the lack of transparency with that amount of money, is insane in 2024.
 

TiogaLion

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Remember, they are allowed to do this, because, "how dare you question something so great as a pediatric cancer charity" yet, you are spot on the nose... even in a best case scenario, the lack of transparency with that amount of money, is insane in 2024.
I'm actually somewhat ok with Thon and The Four Diamonds. Four Diamonds uses some of Thon funds to pay a staff that actually know how to get insurance companies to cover the bills also know how to identify public and private funding to take care of the balance. Typically that activity is less than 20% which is a very good return. For those that don't know, any PA resident pediatric cancer patent who shows up at Hershey will be treated and will not receive a bill. Their family will not receive a bill. Travel and other expenses will be covered as well.

I've always assumed the balances have been put into an endowment fund to support research but I'd like to know if that's actually the case.

Without your help we won't know.

 

HarrisburgDave

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I'm actually somewhat ok with Thon and The Four Diamonds. Four Diamonds uses some of Thon funds to pay a staff that actually know how to get insurance companies to cover the bills also know how to identify public and private funding to take care of the balance. Typically that activity is less than 20% which is a very good return. For those that don't know, any PA resident pediatric cancer patent who shows up at Hershey will be treated and will not receive a bill. Their family will not receive a bill. Travel and other expenses will be covered as well.

I've always assumed the balances have been put into an endowment fund to support research but I'd like to know if that's actually the case.

Without your help we won't know.

Thank you for information that is very enlightening.
 

GrimReaper

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I'm actually somewhat ok with Thon and The Four Diamonds. Four Diamonds uses some of Thon funds to pay a staff that actually know how to get insurance companies to cover the bills also know how to identify public and private funding to take care of the balance. Typically that activity is less than 20% which is a very good return. For those that don't know, any PA resident pediatric cancer patent who shows up at Hershey will be treated and will not receive a bill. Their family will not receive a bill. Travel and other expenses will be covered as well.

I've always assumed the balances have been put into an endowment fund to support research but I'd like to know if that's actually the case.

Without your help we won't know.

Less than 20% of what?
 

GrimReaper

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It seems incongruous that you are a Penn Stater yet understand money beyond get a lot, spend a lot more.
 
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PSUFTG2

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Thanks for your input. FYI, Barry has already spent over 40 times that much.
FWIW:

First, thanks all.

Secondly, I anticipate some very substantive updates on the status of the legal situation within the next several days - stay tuned.
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