Better Call Saul: Season 6 Discussion Thread

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I read an online suggestion to rewatch Breaking Bad S3.02, “Caballo sin Nombre,” to see just how much Jimmy misses Kim. I watched the episode today while doing a few proofs; the scene in question starts at 12 minutes. Good episode: Walt gets pepper sprayed, Jesse buys a house, the twins wait for Walt to finish his shower, pizza on the roof.
 
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I read an online suggestion to rewatch Breaking Bad S3.02, “Caballo sin Nombre,” to see just how much Jimmy misses Kim. I watched the episode today while doing a few proofs; the scene in question starts at 12 minutes. Good episode: Walt gets pepper sprayed, Jesse buys a house, the twins wait for Walt to finish his shower, pizza on the roof.
 
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I read an online suggestion to rewatch Breaking Bad S3.02, “Caballo sin Nombre,” to see just how much Jimmy misses Kim. I watched the episode today while doing a few proofs; the scene in question starts at 12 minutes. Good episode: Walt gets pepper sprayed, Jesse buys a house, the twins wait for Walt to finish his shower, pizza on the roof.
"while doing a few proofs"

You might be the coolest guy on this board
 
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End of an era tonight. Glad I got to experience it.

Saul Goodman I Give Up GIF by Better Call Saul
 

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AMC is replaying the second half of the season right now. I’m watching 6.09, “Fun and Games,” in which Hector can’t convince Don Eladio, and where Kim leaves.
 
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I tried to explain to my wife last night the depth of the show, the feelings it leaves me with, maybe lessons, the shear brilliance and genius of it all and found the challenge of doing that impossible.

She has not watched this with me nor did she watch Breaking Bad and just can’t fathom how a show of this caliber can resonate inside your mind like a good drug.
Here's a question I have pondered. I have suggested both shows to numerous folks. If just starting, as about to wrap do you start with BCS, or keep with BB as the start??
 
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Here's a question I have pondered. I have suggested both shows to numerous folks. If just starting, as about to wrap do you start with BCS, or keep with BB as the start??
I’ve given that question some thought. Story-wise, it worked perfectly the way it’s set up. You’ll have trade-offs (the casting continuity would be much superior with a linear timeline, for example) whichever way you go. Tonight is going to be fire.
 
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AMC is replaying the second half of the seaso right now. I’m watching 6.09, “Fun and Games,” in which Hector can’t convince Don Eladio, and where Kim leaves.
When Mike told Kim that she’s made of sterner stuff, he meant her ability to put on that performance at Howard’s wake.
 

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Here's a question I have pondered. I have suggested both shows to numerous folks. If just starting, as about to wrap do you start with BCS, or keep with BB as the start??
Someone on Reddit put this list out to try and watch the saga in sequence


Happy viewing!





OFFICIAL TIMELINE:

  • BCS S1 = 2002 (not counting flashbacks/futures, just "present day" Jimmy)
  • BCS S2 = 2002
  • BCS S3 = early 2003
  • BCS S4 = fastforwards through 2003 into early 2004
  • BCS S5 = 2004-05? (probably)
  • BCS S6 = (unknown, possibly ending in 2010?)
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  • BB S1 = September-October 2008 (not counting flashbacks)
  • BB S2 = November-December 2009 (timejumps 2months at end of S2)
  • BB S3 = February-April 2009
  • BB S4 = April-July 2009
  • BB S5 = August-October (timejumps ahead 4-5months in ep508)
  • BB S5B = March-April (timejumps again in ep515) ends in September 2010
  • El Camino = 1week after Felina, with final scene being Late 2010
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  • BCS final Gene episodes = 2010-11 (maybe)
 
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AMC is replaying the second half of the seaso right now. I’m watching 6.09, “Fun and Games,” in which Hector can’t convince Don Eladio, and where Kim leaves.

Watching Kim eviscerate Howard at the funeral never gets old. She didn't just sell the con, she went that extra step and put the onus on his wife for contributing to his death. It's one of the greatest scenes I have ever watched. I put it up there with Little Bill torturing Ned, and telling him what is about to happen, in Unforgiven.
 

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Watching Kim eviscerate Howard at the funeral never gets old. She didn't just sell the con, she went that extra step and put the onus on his wife for contributing to his death. It's one of the greatest scenes I have ever watched. I put it up there with Little Bill torturing Ned, and telling him what is about to happen, in Unforgiven.
She picked her time, too, making sure Cliff was there with Cheryl. Cliff was the ballgame.
 
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She picked her time, too, making sure Cliff was there with Cheryl. Cliff was the ballgame.

Definitely. It doesn't work without Cliff, his history with his own son, and all the prior work they put in making sure Cliff had his doubts. Just brilliant writing and story development.
 
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AMC is replaying the second half of the season right now. I’m watching 6.09, “Fun and Games,” in which Hector can’t convince Don Eladio, and where Kim leaves.
Just so I'm clear, BCS trumped Premier League?
 

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It just clicked with me that the music used in episode “Nippy” where the Cinnabons keep going to the security office was sampled by a band called the Wiseguys for their song “Ooh La La”



They also had this hit

 
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Someone on Reddit put this list out to try and watch the saga in sequence


Happy viewing!





OFFICIAL TIMELINE:

  • BCS S1 = 2002 (not counting flashbacks/futures, just "present day" Jimmy)
  • BCS S2 = 2002
  • BCS S3 = early 2003
  • BCS S4 = fastforwards through 2003 into early 2004
  • BCS S5 = 2004-05? (probably)
  • BCS S6 = (unknown, possibly ending in 2010?)
  • -----------------------
  • BB S1 = September-October 2008 (not counting flashbacks)
  • BB S2 = November-December 2009 (timejumps 2months at end of S2)
  • BB S3 = February-April 2009
  • BB S4 = April-July 2009
  • BB S5 = August-October (timejumps ahead 4-5months in ep508)
  • BB S5B = March-April (timejumps again in ep515) ends in September 2010
  • El Camino = 1week after Felina, with final scene being Late 2010
  • -----------------------
  • BCS final Gene episodes = 2010-11 (maybe)
Here's all the timeline info anyone could need.
 

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Here's a question I have pondered. I have suggested both shows to numerous folks. If just starting, as about to wrap do you start with BCS, or keep with BB as the start??
Boy that is a great question to ponder. I may agree with Lion Jim. I also watched the movie El a Camino that brought closure with Jesse. Highly recommend.
 

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I'm thinking Kim may kill herself, she's really in a dark spot.

Jimmy dies in the desert , maybe Mexican desert.

Just guesses.
 

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As much as I loved BCS and Breaking Bad, the last half season of BCS was not good. Once Howard was killed, the show went downhill. The final episode was not good. The last half season of Breaking Bad was all time TV great. The last half season of BCS was a great disappointment.
 
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Meh ending. I was going to add jail house lawyer for life in my alternative Saul exit, too late . In retrospect Saul was wimpy, stupid and only had his act together on the law and scams. He was also unprepared for circumstances .

I didn't like Marion ( Carol Burnett) , Saul should have tied her up and had a clean getaway. Seems like a rushed ending with Bob O's heart attack. The b&w shots were also getting lame. Overall a great series but maybe 3 episodes too long.
 

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The car was a teaser to a flash back, had me fooled too. Thought he had a private stash of bills or a cartel contact.

That shot was in color, anything current was in B/W. Carol's character - the car is beige. Yeah, that line doesn't work so well in digitally decolorized grays. Overall I actually really liked the ending episode. Gene's big scam was little more than a way to explain how he gets caught as opposed to something complex and important. He goes on the run, gets caught quickly because he truly isn't good at stuff like that, then gets one last fling as Saul doing his best as a lawyer. Then he decides to throw it all away so that he can see Kim one last time, which leads to the nice moment at the end. It had lots of cameos tastefully done asking simple what if questions. Quick answer in the beginning of the episode on what happens, then the rest spent on how he handles it and still manages to thrive. I thoroughly enjoyed the episode.
 

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Great ending to a once in a lifetime series. The writing, cinematography, and acting were just magnificent throughout. Jimmy got back to himself and this was his way to redeem at least a little piece of the person who might have been. Heavy on the theme of regret, and we have seen Jimmy/Saul have brief moments of it throughout the series, Jimmy finally realized that all the money and bs and scams hurt lots of innocent people, particularly the one person who he truly loved, Kim. He tanked his sweet jail deal when he found out Howard’s wife may sue Kim for everything. That is why he blabbed on the plane in front of the agent so word would get back to the D.A. in Albequerque to draw Kim into the courtroom where Saul gets “gone” and Jimmy comes back. Nice cameos by Mike, Walter, Chuck, and a total surprise with Marie. The Time Machine theme also ran deep in this series, lots of plotting in the dark, the peons trying to take down the elite, and the series, particularly the BCS series, using time shifts to lay out the story of how someone became such a prick, and Saul was a big one. In the end, Jimmy got what he deserved despite the attempts by those who actually loved him, to get him in the right path because they saw the talent in him.
Balls of steel but, he was blinded by his own ego. A bittersweet, but satisfying ending, to a helluva a show. We are gonna miss you Jimmy/Saul.
PS: interesting no specific song used to wrap up the series, unlike Breaking Bad.
 
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I was disappointed with the final BCS. I see one major plot mistake. Saul did not have to go back on his 7-year deal. Others say Saul was protecting Kim from being sued by Howard’s widow, but this is lame. Kim could easily point out that while they were playing tricks on Howard, it was Lalo who killed Howard. As to being an accessory after the fact, Kim could plead that if the cartel found about Lalo then she (and Jimmy) would be in great danger. Playing tricks on Howard would be a minor crime and only Howard being in the wrong place at the wrong time got him killed. And what Saul/Jimmy did had no effect on the guilt Kim was feeling. So, I do not buy Saul did this to protect Kim.
 

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I was disappointed with the final BCS. I see one major plot mistake. Saul did not have to go back on his 7-year deal. Others say Saul was protecting Kim from being sued by Howard’s widow, but this is lame. Kim could easily point out that while they were playing tricks on Howard, it was Lalo who killed Howard. As to being an accessory after the fact, Kim could plead that if the cartel found about Lalo then she (and Jimmy) would be in great danger. Playing tricks on Howard would be a minor crime and only Howard being in the wrong place at the wrong time got him killed. And what Saul/Jimmy did had no effect on the guilt Kim was feeling. So, I do not buy Saul did this to protect Kim.
Playing tricks on Howard?! They drugged him and planned it, a little more than playing tricks.
 

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Interesting that both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul ended with the protagonists coming clean about their behavior: Walter telling Skyler he did it all because he liked it, Saul/Jimmy confessing to wanting money to help Walter build his drug empire and how he lied about Kim’s involvement in Howard’s death. He takes all the blame for Walter White, “the truth is is Walter White couldn’t have done it without me”. The irony of the final bus ride is that others still identify him with Saul, hero to lowlifes and criminals.
 
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It has ended. How sad. Timeline was strange. In court, He said he met Walter white 2.5 years ago. How long was he In hiding. Unless I heard it wrong.
 

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It has ended. How sad. Timeline was strange. In court, He said he met Walter white 2.5 years ago. How long was he In hiding. Unless I heard it wrong.
Walter bit it in 2008, Gene timeline 2010
 

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I was disappointed with the final BCS. I see one major plot mistake. Saul did not have to go back on his 7-year deal. Others say Saul was protecting Kim from being sued by Howard’s widow, but this is lame. Kim could easily point out that while they were playing tricks on Howard, it was Lalo who killed Howard. As to being an accessory after the fact, Kim could plead that if the cartel found about Lalo then she (and Jimmy) would be in great danger. Playing tricks on Howard would be a minor crime and only Howard being in the wrong place at the wrong time got him killed. And what Saul/Jimmy did had no effect on the guilt Kim was feeling. So, I do not buy Saul did this to protect Kim.
Nvm.
 
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