Borkey questions Hadad's divisiveness

Maroon13

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interesting that others outside the State fan base have observed this split ...
 
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WT17 is he saying that is wrong?
His whole stance is State has a lame gameday because of logos, LEDs and speakers. It's all petty.

Logos is a personal preference. We had one night game this year, EKU. I can hear the rap music and 4th Q song just fine. I don't get the problem there either.

...and the dude has been given the logo. A game last year. On merchandise.... he is just never happy.
 

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It's also convenient that he says the AD serves up crap and calls it ice cream. That's his opinion. Some people like what the University serves up.

Then he goes on characterize fans that don't agree with him but agrees with University.... maybe Lebby has a plan for Hutzler and now isn't the time.

Anyways, he is on public radio, heard by all of Mississippi and once again he just gripes about all things Mississippi State. It's one thing to have your opinions and express them in your friend group or privately but this dude is very publicly crapping on Mississippi State.
 

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It's also convenient that he says the AD serves up crap and calls it ice cream. That's his opinion. Some people like what the University serves up.

Then he goes on characterize fans that don't agree with him but agrees with University.... maybe Lebby has a plan for Hutzler and now isn't the time.

Anyways, he is on public radio, heard by all of Mississippi and once again he just gripes about all things Mississippi State. It's one thing to have your opinions and express them in your friend group or privately but this dude is very publicly crapping on Mississippi State.
You’re a dumb mother 17er and should be on Genespage with the rest of the sheep.
 

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It's also convenient that he says the AD serves up crap and calls it ice cream. That's his opinion. Some people like what the University serves up.

Then he goes on characterize fans that don't agree with him but agrees with University.... maybe Lebby has a plan for Hutzler and now isn't the time.

Anyways, he is on public radio, heard by all of Mississippi and once again he just gripes about all things Mississippi State. It's one thing to have your opinions and express them in your friend group or privately but this dude is very publicly crapping on Mississippi State.
1) He did not say that our AD is serving up crap. He said that we have a lot of fans that can be served crap with a spoon, and they’d eat it up because they’ll never question anything that MSU does. He’s also not wrong

2) It’s fitting that you bring up Lebby/Hutzler because there’s a perfect example of fans being served an absolute **** sandwich and told to enjoy it. Behind door #1, fire him and owe $2M that we don’t have. Or door #2, keep on keepin’ on and hope that our 130th ranked defense can improve to Sirmon level of a$$ next season. Oh, and please send more money

3) I have listened to T&L for years, and when there is something enjoyable going on, Hadad is our biggest cheerleader. Put the worst product on the field that many of us have seen in our lifetimes, however, and you’re gonna hear about it. Details matter, and when you’re staring 2-10 or god forbid 1-11 in the face, fans are gonna pay attention to them
 

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It's also convenient that he says the AD serves up crap and calls it ice cream. That's his opinion. Some people like what the University serves up.

Then he goes on characterize fans that don't agree with him but agrees with University.... maybe Lebby has a plan for Hutzler and now isn't the time.

Anyways, he is on public radio, heard by all of Mississippi and once again he just gripes about all things Mississippi State. It's one thing to have your opinions and express them in your friend group or privately but this dude is very publicly crapping on Mississippi State.
You are hearing what you want to hear because you have an axe to grind with Hadad.
 

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Anyways, he is on public radio, heard by all of Mississippi and once again he just gripes about all things Mississippi State. It's one thing to have your opinions and express them in your friend group or privately but this dude is very publicly crapping on Mississippi State.
Mississippi State has done an exceptional job of "very publicly crapping" on itself the last two seasons in football as well as the Moorhead saga, the last 3 baseball seasons, and before Jans the Rick Ray and Howland decade. You think "all of Mississippi" didn't notice that and talk publicly about it?

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This debate about fan engagement and atmosphere is all just a bunch of ********. If we were winning football games instead getting the stem-winding **** beat out us by the Toledo Rockets, nobody would be talking about this. You think anyone really cared about the lights or the goddamned sound system when we beat Texas A&M and Auburn in back to back weeks and were ranked # 1 in the country? Come on. Just give us a a 7 win team with a solid and aggressive defense and a lot of this talk will go by the wayside.
 

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This debate about fan engagement and atmosphere is all just a bunch of ********. If we were winning football games instead getting the stem-winding **** beat out us by the Toledo Rockets, nobody would be talking about this. You think anyone really cared about the lights or the goddamned sound system when we beat Texas A&M and Auburn in back to back weeks and were ranked # 1 in the country? Come on. Just give us a a 7 win team with a solid and aggressive defense and a lot of this talk will go by the wayside.
Winning masks things for sure but some of these issues have been going on for years and it only gets worse. The lighting and PA in the stadium are pathetic. It’s just not a good product right now.
 

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We are divided by age I’m afraid. In my experience it’s the older fans/alum that feel this way. Also the university issued boot lickers that are out there but mostly the older generation. Older alum have money but don’t care about the little things. The younger consumer cares but doesn't have the funding that the silver dawgs have. These are the people who make the difference right? The ones spending or not spending money. This is just how I feel. If we had all these things that we currently lack, the older generation wouldn’t know/care. But they hear about the rest of us complaining and all they know is that we are losing and think we need to shut up and get up earlier and milk the cows like they used to.
 
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His whole stance is State has a lame gameday because of logos, LEDs and speakers. It's all petty.

Logos is a personal preference. We had one night game this year, EKU. I can hear the rap music and 4th Q song just fine. I don't get the problem there either.

...and the dude has been given the logo. A game last year. On merchandise.... he is just never happy.
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1) He did not say that our AD is serving up crap. He said that we have a lot of fans that can be served crap with a spoon, and they’d eat it up because they’ll never question anything that MSU does. He’s also not wrong

2) It’s fitting that you bring up Lebby/Hutzler because there’s a perfect example of fans being served an absolute **** sandwich and told to enjoy it. Behind door #1, fire him and owe $2M that we don’t have. Or door #2, keep on keepin’ on and hope that our 130th ranked defense can improve to Sirmon level of a$$ next season. Oh, and please send more money

3) I have listened to T&L for years, and when there is something enjoyable going on, Hadad is our biggest cheerleader. Put the worst product on the field that many of us have seen in our lifetimes, however, and you’re gonna hear about it. Details matter, and when you’re staring 2-10 or god forbid 1-11 in the face, fans are gonna pay attention to them
No need for me to type anything. Seinfeld nailed it
 
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We are divided by age I’m afraid. In my experience it’s the older fans/alum that feel this way. Also the university issued boot lickers that are out there but mostly the older generation. Older alum have money but don’t care about the little things. The younger consumer cares but doesn't have the funding that the silver dawgs have. These are the people who make the difference right? The ones spending or not spending money. This is just how I feel. If we had all these things that we currently lack, the older generation wouldn’t know/care. But they hear about the rest of us complaining and all they know is that we are losing and think we need to shut up and get up earlier and milk the cows like they used to.
Well, I’m 63 and don’t know if all you said is true or not. I’m still interested in exactly the same things I was 40 years ago. Listen to the same music, get a chill when the jets fly over, would love LED lighting, and wish all the games were at night. I still love a big tailgating day where I can drink and laugh it up all day before going into the game. I like the music loud and nonstop in the games. Hate it when we we only ring and don’t yell, and nobody stands up during the game! Our opponents fans stand! Hate the fact that we still have no seating or bowl in the SEZ.
 

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Well, I’m 63 and don’t know if all you said is true or not. I’m still interested in exactly the same things I was 40 years ago. Listen to the same music, get a chill when the jets fly over, would love LED lighting, and wish all the games were at night. I still love a big tailgating day where I can drink and laugh it up all day before going into the game. I like the music loud and nonstop in the games. Hate it when we we only ring and don’t yell, and nobody stands up during the game! Our opponents fans stand! Hate the fact that we still have no seating or bowl in the SEZ.
I also don’t feel that it’s all older alum who feel this way. Just the majority. For instance, there’s not many 63 year olds on this message board.
 

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His whole stance is State has a lame gameday because of logos, LEDs and speakers. It's all petty.

Logos is a personal preference. We had one night game this year, EKU. I can hear the rap music and 4th Q song just fine. I don't get the problem there either.

...and the dude has been given the logo. A game last year. On merchandise.... he is just never happy.
I do not often cuss, but this has pushed me to off the ledge. You need to shut your a** up and go back to TOS. Our athletic department is a total sh*t show right now. Thank the good Lord that we have people like @Brian Hadad and @RobbieFaulk to give us a voice because I do not have it. I do not have a lot of money to give and the place I sit I cannot hear a thing. If it was not for Chris Jans and James Armstrong our athletics would be one of worst in the country for results. Little things are the most important thing we can do. If you do not do the little things right, they add up quickly. That is why we are in our current spot. Over the past 6 years we have refused to do the little things, and the debt is due. So, if you think none of these things matters you are part of the problem. BTW, I will back Hadad and Robbie because he actually cares. Unlike the people with power, they will be here in ten years.
 
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His whole stance is State has a lame gameday because of logos, LEDs and speakers. It's all petty.

Logos is a personal preference. We had one night game this year, EKU. I can hear the rap music and 4th Q song just fine. I don't get the problem there either.

...and the dude has been given the logo. A game last year. On merchandise.... he is just never happy.
On another note. I go to several Alabama home games a year (daughter goes there), and I sit close to the field in club seats and cannot hear one thing the announcer says and can barely hear music.
 
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I do not often cuss, but this has pushed me to off the ledge. You need to shut your a** up and go back to TOS. Our athletic department is a total sh*t show right now. Thank the good Lord that we have people like @Brian Hadad and @RobbieFaulk to give us a voice because I do not have it. I do not have a lot of money to give and the place I sit I cannot hear a thing. If it was not for Chris Jans and James Armstrong our athletics would be one of worst in the country for results. Little things are the most important thing we can do. If you do not do the little things right, they add up quickly. That is why we are in our current spot. Over the past 6 years we have refused to do the little things, and the debt is due. So, if you think none of these things matters you are part of the problem. BTW, I will back Hadad and Robbie because he actually cares. Unlike the people with power, they will be here in ten years.
Good or bad - a few long time athletic department employees are no longer with State. Mike Richey for example who was awesome.
 
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Last thing..... the athletic department isn't a shitshow. many aspects are just fine. It is just how you people want to view things. The Football team performance sucks but the rest is fine.

Selmon communicated like an adult the why and how on logos, LEDs and so on. And like kids, some people just can't accept being told no or wait.

We all want these things but there are legitimate reasons why they aren't in place. However all these people think there is some huge conspiracy from Templeton to now Selmon and Kenum.

have a great weekend
 
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It's also convenient that he says the AD serves up crap and calls it ice cream. That's his opinion. Some people like what the University serves up.

Then he goes on characterize fans that don't agree with him but agrees with University.... maybe Lebby has a plan for Hutzler and now isn't the time.

Anyways, he is on public radio, heard by all of Mississippi and once again he just gripes about all things Mississippi State. It's one thing to have your opinions and express them in your friend group or privately but this dude is very publicly crapping on Mississippi State.
It looks like one of Jean's sheep got loose.
 

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This debate about fan engagement and atmosphere is all just a bunch of ********. If we were winning football games instead getting the stem-winding **** beat out us by the Toledo Rockets, nobody would be talking about this. You think anyone really cared about the lights or the goddamned sound system when we beat Texas A&M and Auburn in back to back weeks and were ranked # 1 in the country? Come on. Just give us a a 7 win team with a solid and aggressive defense and a lot of this talk will go by the wayside.
Those games you reference happened 10 years ago. Pretty sure we still have the same lights and sound system we used that year. It may be the same sound system we had in 2004 when we beat Florida. No one complained about it that day either, but that has absolutely zero to do with people complaining in 2024. Do you still use the same boom box you used in high school to listen to music?

We need to keep up with technological advances, like everyone else. It's not that much to ask.
 

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Last thing..... the athletic department isn't a shitshow. many aspects are just fine. It is just how you people want to view things. The Football team performance sucks but the rest is fine.

Selmon communicated like an adult the why and how on logos, LEDs and so on. And like kids, some people just can't accept being told no or wait.

We all want these things but there are legitimate reasons why they aren't in place. However all these people think there is some huge conspiracy from Templeton to now Selmon and Kenum.

have a great weekend
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