Those last two words are a terrific marketing ploy. Congratulations.
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Also, she tried to get student FB tickets as soon as she was eligible early morning (7 am?) and they were sold out within minutes. She bought them online from another student for $200 more than actual student pricing. So just know there's other avenues if it happens.Thanks! I appreciate all the advice I can get. A lot has changed since my wife and I graduated from Dear Old State in 1999.
The point is PSU hasn't been elite in 25+ years, but people toss it around like this just occurred on JF or due to the sanctions alone. PSU was a top 15 program years back and that is all they are now. Auburn won a natty more recently...are they elite right now? FSU? PSU hasn't won one since 86....robbed or not in 94. People blaming Franklin alone need a bit or a reality check.
I think the ‘16 team was CFP worthy and should have been there if not for the Pitt loss. We were close in other years if not for blown leads against OSU or the loss to Minnesota. ‘Elite’ has changed since the CFP has been implemented; prior to, it was extremely difficult to win a NC. Less so now. PSU I think is an elite program by every definition not counting National Championshps. One of maybe 15 programs that can regularly compete for a NC. Franklin has shown PSU can have 10+ win seasons and win NY6 bowls. Let’s take the next step - this could be a really great season.
I think you described it well. We have been using the word "NIL" to cover all forms of compensation flowing to an athlete. it would have been better to use "pay for play" to cover cases where the situations where athletes were paid as inducement to sign for a school and also any other bonuses for their actual results. Then NIL would be used in the cases where the athlete is performing a service or allowing their name, image or likeness to be used in some commercial way (i.e. Bryce with Dr Pepper or the LSU gymnastics star for the womens clothing). The later is the true NIL meaning, since NIL is an actual legal principle that has existed for a long time in trademark law. NIL came up in the OBannon case, which killed our favorite EA Sports CFB game. What is the NIL value of a 5 star 6'5" 320# DT that nobody has ever heard off? Probably zero. The pay for play value is off the charts.
BTW - i think coaches are not allowed to engage with a collective.
Better tell Franklin that because he's going to the HVU/LLC shindig on 7/27. But something tells me that cow's been out of the barnyard for a while.
Elite is more than 1 year. It’s sustained. Your definition is different than mine and they weren’t really elite in his last 12 years. Good, that’s it. Like I said 25+ years. PSU wasn't consistently elite since the late 80's. Some people just cannot admit that.
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on ESPNU this week they had a couple legal dudes covering this with the talking heads Rick N and Garret S. The talking heads started with the assumption that the NCAA has no authority to govern college athletics, and pointed to the states making laws that essentially gave their residents safe harbor from the NCAA. The legal guys made a couple good counter points. First congress is not likely to write national legislation on the matter, unless it is to give the NCAA full anti-trust immunity. That would cutoff most of the legal attacks on the NCAA jurisdiction. Second, they said there was new leadership at the NCAA, and they think that they will start moving to enforce the rules (i.e. no $$$ to induce or pay players to play rule). The two lawyers both agreed the NCAA would get suits from colleges, however they said the NCAA argument will be that it is a volunteer organization and that the schools' contracts would be a FEDERAL matter under contract law. Federal pre-emption would over rule the state statutes. None of this would be an NIL or player rights battle as the NCAA would be bringing actions against the schools. Cases might be Miami vs NCAA. Evidently the NCAA has already determined how it can catch collectives working with coaches and therefore the action would be against the school, and not player rights under NIL - players would not have standing unless somehow they could convince a court that harming a school would harm them - but the lawyers said that would not fly as they players are free to move. The third party beneficiary argument would not get them legal standing. Anyhow, they said - watch the court cases, and the only way the NCAA would lose is if the courts made a political decision - i.e. the players "deserve to be paid" since there is so much money in CFB. the only thing that the talking heads said was you cannot put the paste back in the tube and it is about player equity = political
interesting that you would think that 11-2 was "elite" in 91 and 96 but was not in 2017, '19, or '22
very interesting
And in 1993 they lost on back to back weeks to Michigan and Ohio State. In 1996 they lost to Ohio State and Iowa. How ironic. People see what they want to see despite facts.
They weren’t elite when Joe left either then. And they hadn’t been in quite some time.
Schools will simply quit being part of the NCAA. Done and done.
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