Clemson, Fla St., Oregon and Washington to Big 10 ?
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Just curious, but why?
Supposedly clemson is doomed if they stay in the ACC. And if they come to the SEC, they can't compete week in and week out.
Getting B10 money, and an easier schedule (than the SEC) seems like the worst case for us.
I see where you're coming from but if the ACC stays together Clemson is a guaranteed lock with the expanded playoff. If they actually have to play a decent schedule in the Big 10 they'll lose 3 games a year and won't make it.
Wouldn’t this be seen as Clemson and FSU avoiding the SEC? They are the 2 logical schools to be added next. This would seem like a move to make sure that doesn’t happen.
My gut tells me this won’t happen, at least not this week. We’ll see.
My gut tells me this won’t happen, at least not this week. We’ll see.
We use to refer to these as blowup doll gang bangs…..nothing but hot air
Big 10 has rights split among several networks. If anything ever goes wrong with ESPN/Disney, the SEC is in trouble.
Can`t see this one coming to reality. Doesn`t the Big 10 value academics? That should eliminate Moo U. I know their rankings are good but I don`t buy it.
Not as of 2024. ESPN paid $3B for through 2034 for the rights to the CBS game.
We didn’t say we’re a smarter conference…just better at footbawl.
I will say the way the B10 has structured it is very smart. Fox gets the noon window, CBS gets the 3:30 window, and NBC gets the prime time night game, “Big 10 Saturday Night”. They’ll all rotate championship game telecasts.
I believe that contract runs out this year.
We didn’t say we’re a smarter conference…just better at footbawl.
I will say the way the B10 has structured it is very smart. Fox gets the noon window, CBS gets the 3:30 window, and NBC gets the prime time night game, “Big 10 Saturday Night”. They’ll all rotate championship game telecasts.
Yep. SEC and ESPN both bet big on each other...VERY big. Big 10 spread it around.
I'm skeptical of the rumors, but it would be funny to hear what the "We don't want Clemson having access to SEC money" crowd thinks about them landing in the Big 10 and getting more money.
Nonsense. The sec product is better than anything the other conferences have to offer. They would just sell to the next bidder
BIg 10 inked an $8 billion deal with Fox/CBS/NBC. Who's left?
Big 10 bet the house on broadcast TV. SEC bet big on cable. Likely, both will be wildly successful. But all the SEC eggs are in one basket.
Hard to imagine any of those four being accepted by the Big 10. None line up academically and I don't see what the draw would be for the Big 10 outside of Washington's tv market.
There are much bigger fish out there in the ACC alone. You take schools like Georgia Tech and UNC and you get the academics and enormous TV markets in SEC territory.
There are much bigger fish out there in the ACC alone. You take schools like Georgia Tech and UNC and you get the academics and enormous TV markets in SEC territory.
I believe Washington and Oregon are both AAU members, which has historically been a requirement for admission into the Big 10 (Nebraska was an AAU member at the time they were admitted). Now that UCLA and USC are Big 10 members, the addition of Washington and Oregon do not look as odd geographically as they once would have been.
Clemson and FSU are not AAU members, so that would definitely set new precedent for the Big 10.
And when this was being talked about a couple months ago, it was brought up that Clemson put out some roadmap to AAU membership over the next decade.
I wondered if that was an attempted bridge. I also wondered if that's just something every school puts out.
Miami, UNC, GT and Virginia are all in and all make much more sense than clem and FSU.
To be honest, half filled stadiums at GT, Virginia, Miami and UNC are things we make fun of Clemson having to play in front of.
Now it's hard for me to picture those as suddenly more desirable.
It's been said a bunch, it comes down to brand (views) vs footprint. A case can be made for both.
Everyone (almost) is streaming now. Don’t need the big networks for viewership anymore. Too big of a market, especially with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma. Not likely that ABC/Disney/ESPN would go anywhere anyway.
Both Oregon and Washington are in the AAU. So they definitely line up academically.
FSU came very close to AAU membership this year, but just fell short.
Clemson does not line up academically to B1G standards.
I doubt anything catastrophic is going to happen to Disney/ESPN, but Disney keeps pumping out box office flops and ESPN continues to have periodic layoffs.
You clearly need to look at the news. Disney is in big trouble.
Bad press almost monthlY
Box office flops
Decreased park attendance.
Layoffs left and right.
Sooner or later maybe these companies will figure it out but that discussion is not meant for a sports forum.
I don’t think GT is the draw as much as Atlanta - but you don’t get one without the other. Atlanta is the center of the college football universe and the Big 10 would love to plant their flag in the center of SEC territory. It almost makes too much sense for them.
Perhaps. It's an interesting consideration. GaTech opens up the Atlanta market but they bring zero to the table football-wise. Given that recent additions have all been brand name teams, I just don't see the Big 10 making the addition of GaTech their big move. I could see them being part of a package deal with some other ACC teams. On the other hand, with UM, OSU, PSU. Wisconsin and so on already in the conference, maybe they don't think they need to add another football power as much as they need a particular market.
Well, yeah, I know they're in a rough patch financially. Just saying they've got a long way to go before they close up shop.
I've said it before, it reminds me of the ACC getting the Boston and NY markets with Syracuse and BC. In the end, the lack of product was more impact full than the market.
Exactly, Hard to sell the market without a decent product to sell!