How booked up are you? Looks like a lot of billable hours to me.
It has its holes and it could be tied up in court for years. I’m thinking more along the lines that it is a colorable argument that could be used to reduce the amount owed. The ACC wouldn’t want to lose that case.
Ok, say they can do that to cover the exit fee (whatever that is). Who is going to take them and NOT get paid for their home games for the next 13 years?? How are they going to bridge that gap?
UNC AD made some interesting comments about the FSU admin.
There are some legal arguments that can be made against the GOR, as there are against other types of contracts, but they will be expensive and take a while to come to a settlement.
And this is why people hate lawyers…..sometimes it is simply finding a reasonable enough issue that could threaten the whole agreement to force a settlement on less harsh terms. But someone will have to put up the money for that.I would defer to you on that. My brother is a contract lawyer, but that knowledge does not trickle down to me
From my perspective, I have to imagine UNC, Duke and UVA have some pretty dadgum sharp lawyers. That no serious legal challenge has even been floated, seems telling to me. Way back when the GOR was all the talk a few months ago, a source from one of those schools said their lawyers have taken the GOR apart syllable by syllable.
I have no idea what that means either and if UNC leaves it will only be when there is no hope that the conference will remain intact….long way from that happening. Pretty much, they need to negotiate a better contract somehow, someway.
Great questions and I’m not sure. I would think ESPN could renegotiate the ACC TV deal but I also understand that they are in negotiations to purchase a large streaming provider which would explain a lot of their cost-cutting.
I can understand the SEC not offering FSU and Clemson. The SEC already is in the Sunshine and Palmetto states. And I don't believe for one minute that the Gators want FSU in the SEC. In fact, I'm hearing that they privately are telling the SEC "NO". And the Gators have been in the SEC over 90 years. So, they have some "pull". Unless bringing in FSU and Clemson significantly increases the existing members payouts, which is questionable since the SEC is in those states, getting into the SEC does not look promising. I know people talk about "brand". But FSU is not looked at nationally as they were in Bobby Bowden's heyday. And Clemson is not that far removed from the Tommy Bowden era. "Brands" come and go. State boundaries (markets) are forever.
People hate lawyers? I think that is not accurate, I paraphrase from the immortal Lionel Hutts, Esq. from the law office of "Lawyers Are Us" at the Springfield Mall: "That's great, Lisa! One thing we can all agree on. The world needs more lawyers."That's not why.
I don’t get that thought process. Just bc the SEC added OU doesn’t mean we’re just going to be able to go into OK any easier. We didn’t just start adding TX recruits when the SEC added A&M. If anything, it helped those teams protect their home turf bc they are now part of a better brand.
Don't compare what we can't do to what other schools can do. Oklahoma has no players. Texas has a lot of players. Yes, I think having two SEC schools in a place like Texas has recruiting advantages elsewhere in the league, especially for proximate schools like LSU and Arkansas. Much now depends on NIL considerations; both of those schools measure up well, especially LSU. I mean, Michigan and Penn State gets players out of Ohio, but the kind of players they get are Big 10 caliper players, not dogs. I also think that, when legacy brands get to play outside their own areas, and do so frequently, it certainly makes them more familiar to prospects from the areas where the legacy brands go to play. Notre Dame lives on that. It HAS to carry some weight.
I completely disagree. You've just expressed my biggest concern: Multiple Big 10 schools in the South. Forget that the SEC plays better football; the Big 10 is now in a position of greater financial and visual leverage. The SEC would have no reciprocal answer to the B1G coming South except attracting Notre Dame, which is unlikely. The best remedy would be to lock down any desirable ACC schools that become available, up to whatever number of schools becomes maximal.
Still think quality over quantity!
I consider that assumption naive, both as it pertains to the schools involved and as it pertains to the Big 10 Conference. All those entities would benefit to some extent.
Not sure whether I agree or disagree. I think Sankey is in the driver's seat of all this. Let him sit back and watch how this goes down because there is one thing for certain. If the B10 takes Stanford and Cal, it will look dismal for FSU and Clemson. On top of that, I don't necessarily think the BI0 would take UNC/UVA/Duke over FSU and Clemson. Why? UNC can't go anywhere without NCSU according to the State Legislature of NC. I also don't think UVA can leave without Tech.
He has been. He'd better continue to be. You don't get to rest on your laurels while a situation is liquid.
And they are about to be in four if the rumors about the ESPN approaching them for a Friday Night game based on their additions of the west coast schools are true.
Agree with this. Dennis Dodd was saying today that the SEC isn’t interested in CU/FSU bc ESPN won’t pay them. They won’t increase the per school payout. I’ve seen that in other places over the last several years as well. The networks drive all this expansion talk. Doesn’t really matter what makes sense to the fan, if the 4 letter network ain’t paying, we ain’t adding. Adam Rittenburg tweeted that he was told by a high ranking official at a B10 school that Fox was “running the league now”.
