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Byes are so retarded, especially when it's based on winning a conference championship, where all conferences are not created equally. Get rid of that stupidity and either give the byes to the 4 top overall teams, or expand the thing to 16 like it should have been from the beginning.
 
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Outside of a loss, what scenario sees OM miss the playoff? I need to know how to cheer.
Good question.

Based on the fact that Miami moved from 4 to 9 with a loss at GT, tells me if IU loses at OHSt they aren't falling out of the top 10. Root for IU to play OhSt close.

I think BYU needs to be undefeated headed to the B12 championship. The B12 will steal a bid from OM (and others) regardless. For example if Colorado wins the B12CG they get a 12 seed. Would BYU fall out with one loss in their conference championship? I don't think so. The committee said they won't punish teams for a championship game loss. We shall see if the holds true. That may give the B12 2 bids and one less for OM.

Also would aTm beating Texas and winning the SECCG..... steal a bid from OM? Meaning I don't think Texas, with a loss to aTm would fall below OM in the rankings (even though they probably should)

Anyways.... to many scenarios and games to play to really know. However them being ranked 11 says they are making it if there are no upsets.
 
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Good question.

Based on the fact that Miami moved from 4 to 9 with a loss at GT, tells me if IU loses at OHSt they aren't falling out of the top 10. Root for IU to play OhSt close.

I think BYU needs to be undefeated headed to the B12 championship. The B12 will steal a bid from OM (and others) regardless. For example if Colorado wins the B12CG they get a 12 seed. Would BYU fall out with one loss in their conference championship? I don't think so. The committee said they won't punish teams for a championship game loss. We shall see if the holds true. That may give the B12 2 bids and one less for OM.

Also would aTm beating Texas and winning the SECCG..... steal a bid from OM? Meaning I don't think Texas, with a loss to aTm would fall below OM in the rankings (even though they probably should)

Anyways.... to many scenarios and games to play to really know. However them being ranked 11 says they aren't making it.
I cannot see any argument for TX making it if they lose to TAMU.
 
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All the seeding will play out.

What this tells me is quiet simple. Its going to be difficult for the SEC to get 5 teams in.

Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss are in, if they win out.
I dont think Tenn is going to be able to survive a loss to Georgia and still get in.
Texas Losing to Texas AM-- the commitee will have to decide b/t Tenn, Texas, TexasAM-- as they 4th team.

The SEC is competing against itself for the 4 spots. Ole Miss is the 4th team currently.. and i cant see a scenario where anyone jumps them without knocking one of the teams above them out. For example UGA beats UT, UT will fall out. Texas AM beats Texas. Texas will fall out.

The seeding and all will work itself out as the conference champions are figured out.

Ohio State/Indiana game is huge-- Indiana losing bad is the only way the SEC gets a 5th. Or ND slipping down the stretch.
 

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All the seeding will play out.

What this tells me is quiet simple. Its going to be difficult for the SEC to get 5 teams in.

Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss are in, if they win out.
I dont think Tenn is going to be able to survive a loss to Georgia and still get in.
Texas Losing to Texas AM-- the commitee will have to decide b/t Tenn, Texas, TexasAM-- as they 4th team.

The seeding and all will work itself out as the conference champions are figured out.

Ohio State/Indiana game is huge-- Indiana losing bad is the only way the SEC gets a 5th. Or ND slipping down the stretch.
If Nico doesn’t play against Georgia it’s gonna give the committee a headache. Not sure how you deal with a guy out maybe just one game. It’s not like Jordan Travis who wasn’t going to be available for the playoff.
 

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If Nico doesn’t play against Georgia it’s gonna give the committee a headache. Not sure how you deal with a guy out maybe just one game. It’s not like Jordan Travis who wasn’t going to be available for the playoff.
I dont think so. Tenn resume would clearly be behind everyone else's in the group. And other teams have dealt with injuries this season.. texas played 2 games without ewers. Ole Miss played games without their best wideout.

Georiga beats UT. UT is going to fall out of the polls to georiga's spot and everyone is going to move up a mark.
 

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Outside of a loss, what scenario sees OM miss the playoff? I need to know how to cheer.
You want Nico to miss the UGA game and for UGA to pound the crap out of UT. UGA get's bumped ahead of UM but UT isn't punished enough by a loss without their QB to drop below UM. The Kentucky loss remains the worst loss for any of the SEC's 2 loss teams.
 

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Well they would both have 2 losses but OM would have wins over Georgia and SC. TX would not have a single win to talk about.
To be fair, they wouldn’t have any bad losses either, whereas OM would have that UK anvil around their neck. And Texas’ win over Vandy will likely carry the same weight as OM’s over SC.

I’m of the opinion that if you have a really good win and a really bad loss, like OM does, they cancel each other out, and you look at the remaining resume. Do that for OM, and you have a 9-1 team, with that one loss being to a 3-loss or 4-loss LSU team, and best win over SC. Compare that to a 10-2 Texas with 2 losses to potential CFP teams. I can see how they’d be treated similarly, good or bad.
 

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To be fair, they wouldn’t have any bad losses either, whereas OM would have that UK anvil around their neck. And Texas’ win over Vandy will likely carry the same weight as OM’s over SC.

I’m of the opinion that if you have a really good win and a really bad loss, like OM does, they cancel each other out, and you look at the remaining resume. Do that for OM, and you have a 9-1 team, with that one loss being to a 3-loss or 4-loss LSU team, and best win over SC. Compare that to a 10-2 Texas with 2 losses to potential CFP teams. I can see how they’d be treated similarly, good or bad.
Its going to take A LOT... for georgia to move ahead of Ole Miss.. They were beat soundly on the field. Much like Alabama had no shot of moving ahead of texas last season in the playoff rankings... I dont envision any scenaraio where Georgia will jump Ole Miss down the stretch... if they both end up two loss teams.

EDIT: replied to the wrong post. Dont know how to fix that.
 

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Its going to take A LOT... for georgia to move ahead of Ole Miss.. They were beat soundly on the field. Much like Alabama had no shot of moving ahead of texas last season in the playoff rankings... I dont envision any scenaraio where Georgia will jump Ole Miss down the stretch... if they both end up two loss teams.

EDIT: replied to the wrong post. Dont know how to fix that.
I think they move ahead with a win over UT, but both would still be in the playoff. Right now it seems to be a “pick any 2” situation with UGA, Tennessee, and Ole Miss. It’s hard to see all 3 making it, but also hard to see only 1 making it. A lot yet to unfold.

Also important to keep an eye on other leagues. What happens to Ohio State if they lose at home to IU? What happens to IU if they get drubbed by Ohio State, or even just lose by 2 TD’s, and have no other wins? What happens if ND drops another game?

Indiana is the biggest wildcard. We won’t know what the committee really thinks about them until after the Ohio State game.
 

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To be fair, they wouldn’t have any bad losses either, whereas OM would have that UK anvil around their neck. And Texas’ win over Vandy will likely carry the same weight as OM’s over SC.

I’m of the opinion that if you have a really good win and a really bad loss, like OM does, they cancel each other out, and you look at the remaining resume. Do that for OM, and you have a 9-1 team, with that one loss being to a 3-loss or 4-loss LSU team, and best win over SC. Compare that to a 10-2 Texas with 2 losses to potential CFP teams. I can see how they’d be treated similarly, good or bad.
SC may finish 9-3 and in the top 20. That’s gonna be a really good second win for OM
 
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I think they move ahead with a win over UT, but both would still be in the playoff. Right now it seems to be a “pick any 2” situation with UGA, Tennessee, and Ole Miss. It’s hard to see all 3 making it, but also hard to see only 1 making it. A lot yet to unfold.

Also important to keep an eye on other leagues. What happens to Ohio State if they lose at home to IU? What happens to IU if they get drubbed by Ohio State, or even just lose by 2 TD’s, and have no other wins? What happens if ND drops another game?

Indiana is the biggest wildcard. We won’t know what the committee really thinks about them until after the Ohio State game.
I agree with all that except I think the UT/UGA game is an elimination game for UGA and a lose control of your own destiny game for TN...

I dont see TN jumping-- alabama, ole miss, or georgia if they lose....and no way UGA is getting in with 3 losses

Alabama and Ole Miss were put in this week by the committee. I cant see a situation for either where they win out and lose ground.

If chalk holds. A UGA over Tennessee win will move Alabama to 9, Ole Miss to 10, UGA to 11.. and Tenn to 12/13 ish just depending.
 
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Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss are in, if they win out.
I dont think Tenn is going to be able to survive a loss to Georgia and still get in.
Texas Losing to Texas AM-- the commitee will have to decide b/t Tenn, Texas, TexasAM-- as the 4th team.

The SEC is competing against itself for the 4 spots. Ole Miss is the 4th team currently.. and i cant see a scenario where anyone jumps them without knocking one of the teams above them out. For example UGA beats UT, UT will fall out. Texas AM beats Texas. Texas will fall out.
I think we underestimate the ability for Texas and Texas A&M to lobby to get in. These things are never based on pure merit. We all know that Bama and Georgia have both waited for these days and have both been unfairly left out of the 4 team playoff previously. They will not be left out again in the 12 team format. I don't think we will ever see 5 SEC teams out of 12 but I am willing to be wrong on that.

It's Bama, Georgia, Texas/Tennessee/Texas A&M. Ole Miss Georgia home win/Kentucky home loss cancel each other out. Then what do they have on the resume? Not much. If they had won at LSU they would be in. Now it will take a series of craziness to have a chance after the regular season is over.
 

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I think we underestimate the ability for Texas and Texas A&M to lobby to get in. These things are never based on pure merit. We all know that Bama and Georgia have both waited for these days and have both been unfairly left out of the 4 team playoff previously. They will not be left out again in the 12 team format. I don't think we will ever see 5 SEC teams out of 12 but I am willing to be wrong on that.

It's Bama, Georgia, Texas/Tennessee/Texas A&M. Ole Miss Georgia home win/Kentucky home loss cancel each other out. Then what do they have on the resume? Not much. If they had won at LSU they would be in. Now it will take a series of craziness to have a chance after the regular season is over.
The Ole Miss resume is still better than Tenn on paper, and the arkansas loss at home could start to look worse and worse, they are on track to finish 6-6. They've beaten UGA on the field and beaten them soundly. Much like Alabama would never be ranked above Texas last season due to Texas's win.. Georgia isnt going to get above ole miss.

Texas and TexasAM lobbying to get in will fall on deaf ears. I dont buy much into all that. If it does come into play it'll come into play for a 5th team, not at the expense of another SEC team.

End of the day. The teams that are currently in the playoffs. Arent going to get removed from the playoffs if they continue to win. Ole Miss, Alabama, Tenn, and Texas would have to lose to lose their spot in the dance. UGA winning in Tenn-- UGA will take the Tenn spot. TxAm beat texas-- TxAm will take Texas spot.

The big argument is going to come and will be is a 2 loss Tenn/Texas/TexasAM worth getting in over a 1 loss Indiana. I personally see Texas beating Texas AM.. so the arguement for me is simply is a 2 loss Tenn worth getting in over a 1 loss Indiana.
 

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The Ole Miss resume is still better than Tenn on paper, and the arkansas loss at home could start to look worse and worse, they are on track to finish 6-6. They've beaten UGA on the field and beaten them soundly. Much like Alabama would never be ranked above Texas last season due to Texas's win.. Georgia isnt going to get above ole miss.

Texas and TexasAM lobbying to get in will fall on deaf ears. I dont buy much into all that. If it does come into play it'll come into play for a 5th team, not at the expense of another SEC team.

End of the day. The teams that are currently in the playoffs. Arent going to get removed from the playoffs if they continue to win. Ole Miss, Alabama, Tenn, and Texas would have to lose to lose their spot in the dance. UGA winning in Tenn-- UGA will take the Tenn spot. TxAm beat texas-- TxAm will take Texas spot.

The big argument is going to come and will be is a 2 loss Tenn/Texas/TexasAM worth getting in over a 1 loss Indiana. I personally see Texas beating Texas AM.. so the arguement for me is simply is a 2 loss Tenn worth getting in over a 1 loss Indiana.
I'm going with Texas A&M winning and creating intentional chaos that the SEC will benefit from.
 

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I'm going with Texas A&M winning and creating intentional chaos that the SEC will benefit from.
SEC doesn't care who wins or loses. Almost no matter what happens, SEC is getting 4 teams in the playoffs and 1 will get a bye. Doesn't matter who those 4 teams are or who gets the bye to the SEC. They make money no matter what happens.
 
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I think they move ahead with a win over UT, but both would still be in the playoff. Right now it seems to be a “pick any 2” situation with UGA, Tennessee, and Ole Miss. It’s hard to see all 3 making it, but also hard to see only 1 making it. A lot yet to unfold.

Also important to keep an eye on other leagues. What happens to Ohio State if they lose at home to IU? What happens to IU if they get drubbed by Ohio State, or even just lose by 2 TD’s, and have no other wins? What happens if ND drops another game?

Indiana is the biggest wildcard. We won’t know what the committee really thinks about them until after the Ohio State game.
Indiana is in no matter what.
 

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SEC doesn't care who wins or loses. Almost no matter what happens, SEC is getting 4 teams in the playoffs and 1 will get a bye. Doesn't matter who those 4 teams are or who gets the bye to the SEC. They make money no matter what happens.
The only thing TexasAM beating Texas does is muck up the 10 win teams. Which may help getting in 5 or may not.

4 is certain..... 5 we will see. I think 5 is still very much in play. But the domino's have to fall right.
 

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The only thing TexasAM beating Texas does is muck up the 10 win teams. Which may help getting in 5 or may not.

4 is certain..... 5 we will see. I think 5 is still very much in play. But the domino's have to fall right.
The domino that would have to fall
Is in the Big 10 & Notre Dame though. Not in the SEC.
 

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The domino that would have to fall
Is in the Big 10 & Notre Dame though. Not in the SEC.
The shake up/uncertainty is all in the SEC, not in the number of teams, that will likely be four but in order of finish due to schedule. Big is pretty much already baked in the cake 1) Oregon 2) Ohio State 3/4 PSU IU. Any upsets won’t change anything other than move IU up a seed and OSU down a seed.
IU is already assumed to finish 11-1, losing to Ohio StaTE.
 
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