OT: global stability seems to be wobbling a bit

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Pars

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I’d say the main issue with Matt Gaetz is the underage girls and drug stuff but you know deflect I guess 🤷‍♂️
 

L4Dawg

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Defending your side by pointing out how bad the other side is.......laughable. It works both ways before either side starts. We are in a hell of a fix, because both sides have lost the plot.
 

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Defending your side by pointing out how bad the other side is.......laughable. It works both ways before either side starts. We are in a hell of a fix, because both sides have lost the plot.
It's even worse when the response to Gaetz's accusations on underage girls and human trafficking is, "oh yeah, well your side had a couple of gay/LGBT people serving in it!!"
 

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It's even worse when the response to Gaetz's accusations on underage girls and human trafficking is, "oh yeah, well your side had a couple of gay/LGBT people serving in it!!"
Key words “accusations”, after Shifty Schiffs constant stream of lies, I believe nothing the Dem smear machine craps out
 
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Key words “accusations”, after Shifty Schiffs constant stream of lies, I believe nothing the Dem smear machine craps out
This was going to be a bipartisan report. I guess we will never know now, since he just resigned from the House.
 

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Key words “accusations”, after Shifty Schiffs constant stream of lies, I believe nothing the Dem smear machine craps out
No offense but resigning days before your ethics hearing doesn’t exactly project innocence.

The staff people I know that work for a couple different people in Congress (all Rs) don’t speak very highly of him. He’s a creep.
 

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No offense but resigning days before your ethics hearing doesn’t exactly project innocence.

The staff people I know that work for a couple different people in Congress (all Rs) don’t speak very highly of him. He’s a creep.
Allegedly, all I have seen today is “Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian agent” who believes this drivel ?
 

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Allegedly, all I have seen today is “Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian agent” who believes this drivel ?
Just the talking points. I tend to roll my eyes at the “Russian agent” stuff whenever that’s trotted out. Tulsi is a little out there and is certainly a maverick so we will see I guess.

I’m just telling you that the Gaetz accusations have legs to them. There’s plenty of damning evidence.
 

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Key words “accusations”, after Shifty Schiffs constant stream of lies, I believe nothing the Dem smear machine craps out
nicknames!
Check out what some republicans have to say about him as well or they may be part of the 🦇 deep state 🦇 too not sure
 

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Just the talking points. I tend to roll my eyes at the “Russian agent” stuff whenever that’s trotted out. Tulsi is a little out there and is certainly a maverick so we will see I guess.

I’m just telling you that the Gaetz accusations have legs to them. There’s plenty of damning evidence.
Also a lot of guilty people who are scared to death to have Gaetz as AG, scared enough to start a smear campaign. They lie constantly so I won’t give them the benefit of the doubt. Russia Russia Russia, collusion bs etc
 

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Also a lot of guilty people who are scared to death to have Gaetz as AG, scared enough to start a smear campaign. They lie constantly so I won’t give them the benefit of the doubt. Russia Russia Russia, collusion bs etc
It isn’t exactly a smear campaign though. These accusations have been around for a while now.
I’m glad he’s out of Congress at least. The guy might have been the most obstructive congressman ever.
 
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85Bears

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It isn’t exactly a smear campaign though. These accusations have been around for a while now.
I’m glad he’s out of Congress at least. The guy might have been the most obstructive congressman ever.
Accusations, that’s what they are. Thomas Massie seems okay with his recess appointment, and Massie is probably the most honest member of Congress. So I’m not convinced.
 

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Also a lot of guilty people who are scared to death to have Gaetz as AG, scared enough to start a smear campaign. They lie constantly so I won’t give them the benefit of the doubt. Russia Russia Russia, collusion bs etc
Wow this is an impressive amount of full on unhinged generalizing.

So Gaetz resigned shortly before a report came out because guilty people who don't want him to prosecute them are scared enough to start a smear campaign?
WT17?
Your claim's timeline isn't even possible because Gaetz has been a known skeez for years now, so the 'smear campaign' is no different now than before.
 

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It isn’t exactly a smear campaign though. These accusations have been around for a while now.
I’m glad he’s out of Congress at least. The guy might have been the most obstructive congressman ever.
So apparently, if Gaetz doesn’t get confirmed, he can still be sworn in in January since he was just re-elected. This is coming from a lawyer that worked in Florida State Congress.
 

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Also a lot of guilty people who are scared to death to have Gaetz as AG, scared enough to start a smear campaign. They lie constantly so I won’t give them the benefit of the doubt. Russia Russia Russia, collusion bs etc
Is Kevin McCarthy in on it too?

 

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"Transgender military personnel from Sweden, New Zealand and Australia listen to Corporal Natalie Murray of Canada speak at an event about transgender troops in Washington. Photograph: Nicholas Kamm/AFP/Getty Images" 10/20/2014

You've moved past "oh yeah, well your side had a couple of gay/LGBT people serving in it!!" and went straight into "LGBT people existed while Biden, um, Obama was president!!!" ?
 
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Yes we get it. Biden checked a bunch of boxes with clown show selections for his cabinet. It doesn’t give Trump a free pass though. The ones announced today are out there.
I'm a three time Trump voter and don't apologize for it. These recent appointments are reminiscent of what ran me crazy during his first term. It just seems he couldn't stand for things to run smoothly and every time things did start to run smoothly he would tweet, say or do something to stir up a controversy. Is seems his appointments were going too well and he had to do something controversial . Crazy.
 

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I'm a three time Trump voter and don't apologize for it. These recent appointments are reminiscent of what ran me crazy during his first term. It just seems he couldn't stand for things to run smoothly and every time things did start to run smoothly he would tweet, say or do something to stir up a controversy. Is seems his appointments were going too well and he had to do something controversial . Crazy.
Got through a couple of those first ones and here I was thinking "well damn maybe this won't be so bad afte...ahhh sheeeit!"
 
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I'm a three time Trump voter and don't apologize for it. These recent appointments are reminiscent of what ran me crazy during his first term. It just seems he couldn't stand for things to run smoothly and every time things did start to run smoothly he would tweet, say or do something to stir up a controversy. Is seems his appointments were going too well and he had to do something controversial . Crazy.
You're surprised?
 

WilCoDawg

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If there is a more punch-able face than his, I would hate to see it....
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I'm old enough to remember a businessman with no political experience whatsoever was elected president and ran the country damn well for four years. The government is broken and doing the same crap every four years ain't gonna fix it. Let the brainwashed and big government folks clutch their pearls and enjoy the ride.
 

L4Dawg

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Also a lot of guilty people who are scared to death to have Gaetz as AG, scared enough to start a smear campaign. They lie constantly so I won’t give them the benefit of the doubt. Russia Russia Russia, collusion bs etc
The stuff about Gaetz started a long time ago. It has nothing to do with Russia.
 

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Lots of you seem upset about certain current events. Lots of negativity in this thread. That sort of attitude/outlook is not good.

Maybe everything will work out to improve things in America. Give it time, and let's see what happens.
 

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So apparently, if Gaetz doesn’t get confirmed, he can still be sworn in in January since he was just re-elected. This is coming from a lawyer that worked in Florida State Congress.
And the ethics committee investigation will be back on if that happens.
 

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Gaetz is going to get a recess appointment which is good for two years according to Massie.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Better brush up on your recess appointments clause. By electing Thune as Leader, the Senate gave a clear signal that it will not be dictated to. Thune is McConnell minus 20 years.

Recess appointments won't happen if there is no recess.
 

WilCoDawg

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Honest question that I fully anticipate a bunch of snark, but let’s put on our big boy pants for a second:

If Gaetz is stepping down to avoid this “bipartisan” sex scandal investigation because it ain’t looking good for him, he avoids further possible punishment from Congress. But if it is indeed true, these allegations should warrant actual law enforcement, not Congress. What I’ve seen in trying to understand is the ”YEARSlong investigation“ was actually dropped so what is it he’s facing now? It obviously isn’t some “sex with a minor” or “sex trafficking” since the feds aren’t going after him.
He may fully be a sleazebag and it wouldn’t surprise me. I think Trump is as well. But I also imagine 99% of our elected officials are. Some just hide it better than others. Just color me skeptical after the whole Russian collusion and other hoaxes that have happened the past 7 or so years.

So basically, what has he actually done?
 
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