Cowboys at San Fran

[HuntDawg]

At some point the highest paid QB in the league has to play like it. Slice it any way you want. That bad defense and roster and all the other stuff... That bad D got a stop and got the offense the ball with a chance to win the game on the road.. and didnt even manage a 1st down or hell a completion.

Unfortunately. thats been the issue his entire dallas career, and he's doing nothing to change the narrative.

 

[She Mate Me]

Here we go....

 

[HuntDawg]

Here we go....

omg... i dont want to poke the bear. Or did i already? asking for a friend

 

[She Mate Me]

omg... i dont want to poke the bear. Or did i already? asking for a friend

Are you sure you have those?

 

[HuntDawg]

Are you sure you have those?

uh oh everyone... some knowledge is about to be dropped. The BEAR has awaken..... I've officially POKED THE BEAR!!!!!!

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

That roster is dogshít no matter how you want to spin it. He has zero time to throw.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Yes, he's never shown to be a great QB when the pressure is on. But he played his heart out and was fun to watch when the Bulldogs were winning.

Glad his dream came true and he got to play QB for Dallas - He's had a good run in Big D. Got the strong endorsement contracts and the HUGE NFL contract, in spite of no being considered an elite QB.

He's been a work horse for one of the dumbest, greediest owners in the league.

Wish he could have played for coaches that were better and a franchise that actually gave a dam-n, but that may be the reason he ended up in Dallas and has hung on for so long.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Yes, he's never shown to be a great QB when the pressure is on. But he played his heart out and was fun to watch when the Bulldogs were winning.

Uhhh….he’s got 15 4th quarter comebacks and 23 game-winning drives just in the NFL. Averages 2-3 of each per season. Had one of each just a few weeks ago on the road against the now 5-2 Steelers.

But hey….never let the truth get in the way of a good Stephen A. Smith-driven narrative.

 

[HuntDawg]

That roster is dogshít no matter how you want to spin it. He has zero time to throw.

No one is expecting Patrick Mahomes. But highest paid QB in the league. Chance to go win a big game and get the season back on the tracks... 4 straight incompletes.

Cowboys should have moved on. Stuck now though. No ones fault. Both dak and Dallas got what they wanted. It’s just an not going to result in a Super Bowl

throwing that 4th quarter comeback stat is funny. Even though he’s been one of the longest tenured starters in the league.. that 15 number isn’t even top 10 for current active guys. Guys like Andy dalton, Ryan tannehill, Joe Flacco.. and yes even Tony romo have more to their names. To put it in perspective in the similar time frame Dak has been around, Derek Carr has 28 4th quarter comebacks…. Yep Derek carr

anyone that thinks that is or has been clutch is drinking some strong stuff…. But then again I don’t worship a dak shrine either

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

You don't have to be worshiping anything to know that this man has the cards stacked against him every time he takes a snap this season. But don't let me stop you from putting him down because he's making so much money he didn't earn.

 

[She Mate Me]

throwing that 4th quarter comeback stat is funny. Even though he’s been one of the longest tenured starters in the league.. that 15 number isn’t even top 10 for current active guys. Guys like Andy dalton, Ryan tannehill, Joe Flacco.. and yes even Tony romo have more to their names. To put it in perspective in the similar time frame Dak has been around, Derek Carr has 28 4th quarter comebacks…. Yep Derek carr

That 4th quarter comeback stat couldn't possibly be affected by the fact that the Cowboys have been a mostly winning regular season team in the Dak era and aren't behind as much as say Derek Carr teams have been in the 4th quarter.

 

[bully12]

Dak might be better and the Cowboys team might be better if (1) Dak and his handlers didn't push so hard for Dak to be the highest player in the game, and (2) if Jerry Jones wasn't stupid enough to give it to him to the detriment of the quality of the team surrounding him.

 

[She Mate Me]

Dak might be better and the Cowboys team might be better if (1) Dak and his handlers didn't push so hard for Dak to be the highest player in the game, and (2) if Jerry Jones wasn't stupid enough to give it to him to the detriment of the quality of the team surrounding him.

This belief among some that the Boys would be better if only Dak and his team didn't advocate for him to be paid what the NFL QB market clearly said he was worth is ridiculous.

All you have to do is look at the Cowboys RB situation to see who the problem is in Dallas, and it ain't Dak.

 

[HuntDawg]

Dak might be better and the Cowboys team might be better if (1) Dak and his handlers didn't push so hard for Dak to be the highest player in the game, and (2) if Jerry Jones wasn't stupid enough to give it to him to the detriment of the quality of the team surrounding him.

This to the T. Can’t say it any better

although can’t blame anyone for wanting more money… dak clearly was making it all about business and the qbs that make winning a priority leave a little on the table to make sure there is talent around them….

 

[HuntDawg]

That 4th quarter comeback stat couldn't possibly be affected by the fact that the Cowboys have been a mostly winning regular season team in the Dak era and aren't behind as much as say Derek Carr teams have been in the 4th quarter.

Tony romo had 24 in roughly the same amount of starts and with a similar record team wise.

again the 15 number that was meant to prove clutchness is exactly the opposite.

also you may want to check the teams records and success that Carr has been on and compare to daks... way more similar than you are suggesting

 

[HuntDawg]

You don't have to be worshiping anything to know that this man has the cards stacked against him every time he takes a snap this season. But don't let me stop you from putting him down because he's making so much money he didn't earn.

I agree. This season is going to be a tough one. but track results are track results. Getting paid that type money you need to raise your level of play to make those around you better. And at times load the team up and will them to win. Both things that he’s rarely if ever shown.

he needs to be on a team where he’s got a lot of talent around him and he can be more of a game manager. Unfortunately now with this contract, that’s just not possible.

 

[She Mate Me]

also you may want to check the teams records and success that Carr has been on and compare to daks... way more similar than you are suggesting

Carr is 74-90 in his NFL regular season career and Dak is 76-45.

Does ever just pour out of your ears because you are so full of it??

 

[HuntDawg]

Carr is 74-90 in his NFL regular season career and Dak is 76-45.

Does ever just pour out of your ears because you are so full of it??

Referring to wins. They have the same amount of wins. no such thing has 4th quarter losses.

plus the nfl announced a stat last year i think that nearly 70 percent of the games over the last few seasons have been 1 score games in the 4th quarter… meaning virtually 13 of the 17 you have a chance for a 4th quarter comeback so the argument you are trying to make is not one.

the fact that it’s been bragged about that in 120 starts dak has 15 4th quarter comebacks and that makes him clutch is what is comical. And the fact someone is trying to defend that is even funnier.

 

[HuntDawg]

Also romo
81-53 record, .603win%, 24 comebacks

dak
78-50, .609win%, 15 comebacks

guess romo was just crazy clutch

 

[She Mate Me]

Referring to wins. They have the same amount of wins. no such thing has 4th quarter losses.

plus the nfl announced a stat last year i think that nearly 70 percent of the games over the last few seasons have been 1 score games in the 4th quarter… meaning virtually 13 of the 17 you have a chance for a 4th quarter comeback so the argument you are trying to make is not one.

the fact that it’s been bragged about that in 120 starts dak has 15 4th quarter comebacks and that makes him clutch is what is comical. And the fact someone is trying to defend that is even funnier.

This is why I actually try to stay away from interacting with you, even though you think I seek it out.

Your response above is complete BS, and that's obvious to anyone with sense who actually takes the time to read the last few posts in this thread. But because you post a blizzard of words that don't support the argument you make, and often are just made up or completely false (see above), you convince yourself you've made some kind of point. You haven't. You remain, as always, full of it and I'm not wasting more time with your 500 word nothing responses to ever single poster who disagrees with you.

 

[HuntDawg]

This is why I actually try to stay away from interacting with you, even though you think I seek it out.

Your response above is complete BS, and that's obvious to anyone with sense who actually takes the time to read the last few posts in this thread. But because you post a blizzard of words that don't support the argument you make, and often are just made up or completely false (see above), you convince yourself you've made some kind of point. You haven't. You remain, as always, full of it and I'm not wasting more time with your 500 word nothing responses to ever single poster who disagrees with you.

Guess I poked the bear… lol

the above response is clearly way over your head. Your argument that dak winning gives him less chances to comeback isn’t right. Virtually 6-7 of 10 games in the nfl now is a comeback win Or an opportunity for it. a quarterback is going to be giving multiple shots a year to cash those in, regardless of team record

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Tony romo had 24 in roughly the same amount of starts and with a similar record team wise.

again the 15 number that was meant to prove clutchness is exactly the opposite.

also you may want to check the teams records and success that Carr has been on and compare to daks... way more similar than you are suggesting

I agree. It is humorous when you compare Aaron Rodgers with Dak when it comes to making those around him great.

 

[HuntDawg]

I agree. It is humorous when you compare Aaron Rodgers with Dak when it comes to making those around him great.

I haven’t compared dak to Rodger’s at all. Be a knock to Rodger’s. I mean he’s a no doubt hall of famer. Super Bowl champ, Super Bowl mvp, 4 time mvp, 10 time pro bowler, 4 time 1st team all pro.

it is funny to compare… Rodger’s had multiple years where he threw less picks than dak has the last 3 games

he also won the Super Bowl with future hall of famers Brandin Jackson as the starting back only 7 rushing touchdowns by running backs all season…and a trio of Greg Jennings James jones and Donald driver at wide out.….. scary what he would do with lamb

 

[She Mate Me]

Guess I poked the bear… lol

the above response is clearly way over your head. Your argument that dak winning gives him less chances to comeback isn’t right. Virtually 6-7 of 10 games in the nfl now is a comeback win Or an opportunity for it. a quarterback is going to be giving multiple shots a year to cash those in, regardless of team record

Ah, the patented Hunt "this is over your head" response, which actually means "I've got nothing else, so I'll keep throwing **** at the wall and see if it sticks"

I'm not the least bit surprised that you can't understand how a QB with a significantly better winning % and significantly fewer starts would certainly have far fewer opportunities to lead 4th quarter comebacks than the guy with a losing record and 3 seasons or so more starts.

Oh, and yes, Romo was often clutch and is beloved in Dallas because of it. Is that a rip on Dak somehow??

 

[HuntDawg]

Ah, the patented Hunt "this is over your head" response, which actually means "I've got nothing else, so I'll keep throwing **** at the wall and see if it sticks"

I'm not the least bit surprised that you can't understand how a QB with a significantly better winning % and significantly fewer starts would certainly have far fewer opportunities to lead 4th quarter comebacks than the guy with a losing record and 3 seasons or so more starts.

Oh, and yes, Romo was often clutch and is beloved in Dallas because of it. Is that a rip on Dak somehow??

bad teams get blown out. Winning teams are more often than not are in a close game in the 4th quarter. Your argument that bad teams have a better chance to have a 4th quarter comeback is nothing more than your opinion… and basically flat out wrong

for example the titans and panthers are the worst two teams in the nfl this season. The chiefs and lions are the best. I’d be more than willing to bet the chiefs and lions end up with more for a 4th quarter comeback than titans and panthers…

but Then again you have to understand football to understand that.. hence this may be over your head

and oh yes you answered your question, romo was clutch and beloved. And why is it dak isn’t beloved… might have something to do with clutch, or lack there of….hmmm

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I haven’t compared dak to Rodger’s at all. Be a knock to Rodger’s. I mean he’s a no doubt hall of famer. Super Bowl champ, Super Bowl mvp, 4 time mvp, 10 time pro bowler, 4 time 1st team all pro.

it is funny to compare… Rodger’s had multiple years where he threw less picks than dak has the last 3 games

he also won the Super Bowl with future hall of famers Brandin Jackson as the starting back only 7 rushing touchdowns by running backs all season…and a trio of Greg Jennings James jones and Donald driver at wide out.….. scary what he would do with lamb

Sorry I wasn't talking about you. I wasn't aware that I should've been.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Dak might be better and the Cowboys team might be better if (1) Dak and his handlers didn't push so hard for Dak to be the highest player in the game, and (2) if Jerry Jones wasn't stupid enough to give it to him to the detriment of the quality of the team surrounding him.

LOL. He signed the deal making him the highest paid in the league literally a few hours before the season started. If he didn’t, he’d be the 13th or 14th highest paid….like last year.

Either way, this is the team he was getting around him….a shítty one. And even though his deal is huge, his cap number this year still went down from last year and Dallas still has the 7th highest free cap space in the league. Yet still, they’d rather just put a crap supporting cast out there….and just sit on the cash. They had a crap draft where they spent early round picks on turnstiles that are now starting at LT and C while Tyron Smith and Biadiasz are thriving elsewhere. They are paying their 3rd string QB as much as they are paying Micah Parsons, and also lost a draft pick from that ridiculous situation. All of that….not Dak’s fault. Not the head coaches fault. Not CeeDee’s fault. Not Tony Romo’s fault. Not Jimmy Johnson’s fault. Nope….there’s only one person to blame. Same guy as always.

All Dak did was sign a deal he wanted at the first chance he got. That’s it. Signed the deal that the market clearly dictated that he was worth. Had he gotten a $10 million per year raise 2 years ago, and extended through 2026 or 2027…..he would have signed it. And it would have actually saved Dallas tens of millions of dollars, and Dak would have still had his time in the sun as the highest paid player in the league. But Jerry had too much hubris. Had to play hardball and think he could outsmart and outnegotiate the entire NFLPA and all their agents. Complete moron.

 

[HuntDawg]

LOL. He signed the deal making him the highest paid in the league literally a few hours before the season started. If he didn’t, he’d be the 13th or 14th highest paid….like last year.

Either way, this is the team he was getting around him….a shítty one. And even though his deal is huge, his cap number this year still went down from last year and Dallas still has the 7th highest free cap space in the league. Yet still, they’d rather just put a crap supporting cast out there. That’s not Dak’s fault. Not the head coaches fault. Not CeeDee’s fault. Not Tony Romo’s fault. Not Jimmy Johnson’s fault. Nope….there’s only one person to blame. Same guy as always.

All Dak did was sign a deal he wanted at the first chance he got. That’s it. Signed the deal that the market clearly dictated that he was worth. Had he gotten a $10 million per year raise 2 years ago, and extended through 2026 or 2027, it would have actually saved Dallas tens of millions of dollars, and Dak would have still had his time in the sun as the highest paid player in the league. But Jerry had too much hubris. Had to play hardball and think he could outsmart and outnegotiate the entire NFLPA and all their agents. Complete moron.

Yep dak wanted to be the highest paid. Glad he got it. When his career is over someone might remember him being that… someone might not… was Brady ever that or Mahomes?

however people typical don’t forget super bowl champions. Dak prioritized his contract and his wants over the teams.. but anyone with a brain can understand and see his contract will severely hurt the team moving forward…

dak earned the right to be in the position to get that contract, but so did brady,manning, Rodger’s, Mahomes and many others. The differnce is those guys took Less than they could have gotten for the sake of getting talent around them.

dak chose money over winning. Good for him. No hating on it. But when you’re the highest paid qb in the league and not playing like it.. expect the critics.

 

[She Mate Me]

bad teams get blown out. Winning teams are more often than not are in a close game in the 4th quarter. Your argument that bad teams have a better chance to have a 4th quarter comeback is nothing more than your opinion… and basically flat out wrong

for example the titans and panthers are the worst two teams in the nfl this season. The chiefs and lions are the best. I’d be more than willing to bet the chiefs and lions end up with more for a 4th quarter comeback than titans and panthers…

but Then again you have to understand football to understand that.. hence this may be over your head

Another word blizzard that says nothing accurate.

You spent a paragraph explaining that the two worst teams in the league will have fewer 4th quarter come back wins than teams that will win 10+ more games than them this season. That's obvious to a child and has absolutely nothing to do with the Dak-Carr scenario you are apparently trying to bury.

Slightly below average teams, like the ones Carr has mostly quarterbacked, are in a lot of close games, presenting lots of opportunities for comebacks. Good teams, like Dallas has often been as indicated by Dak's record, are often leading in the 4th quarter, and don't get to comeback, but they do win.

And btw, I don't think Dak is a future HOFer or even a Top 5 QB. He's had a really nice career and has exceeded expectations at every level he's been on in football. I'm proud he went to Mississippi State and happy for him.

You can continue to spend your time ing on the best football player in your supposed favorite team's history. I'm just going to occasionally push your back in ...

 

[HuntDawg]

Another word blizzard that says nothing accurate.

You spent a paragraph explaining that the two worst teams in the league will have fewer 4th quarter come back wins than teams that will win 10+ more games than them this season. That's obvious to a child and has absolutely nothing to do with the Dak-Carr scenario you are apparently trying to bury.

Slightly below average teams, like the ones Carr has mostly quarterbacked, are in a lot of close games, presenting lots of opportunities for comebacks. Good teams, like Dallas has often been as indicated by Dak's record, are often leading in the 4th quarter, and don't get to comeback, but they do win.

And btw, I don't think Dak is a future HOFer or even a Top 5 QB. He's had a really nice career and has exceeded expectations at every level he's been on in football. I'm proud he went to Mississippi State and happy for him.

You can continue to spend your time ing on the best football player in your supposed favorite team's history. I'm just going to occasionally push your back in ...

Slightly below average teams now are in a lot of close games? Any proof of this? Or you going to pull your card of, I don’t have to defend my stance with anything because I know I’m right?

again it’s clear you know nothing about football. You’re a big dak supporter and that’s fine. I like dak too but I’m also very real in the fact of his play. You continue to change the target when your stuff blows up in your face. When presented with facts that bad teams don’t have as many 4th quarter comebacks as good teams…. You now change your narrative to slightly below average teams, which again is nothing but something you want to be true but in reality isn’t at all. there is absolutely nothing to suggest a bad team has more 4th quarter wins than a good one, or a below average one. It’s just something you hope to be true, because dak history of success in the 4th quarter is dwarfed by players like Ryan tannehill and even the person that he replaced Tony romo.

facts are in this league right now. With the scores. Every quarterback will have numerous changes to have their 4th quarter comebacks. It’s just a matter of if they cash them in or not.

here are facts for you, that I’m sure you’ll run from:

The most comebacks dak has in 1 year was 5, Dallas went 13-3 that year. In 2019, the year they went 8-8, he had zero. None. Zilch… wow

70 percent of daks comebacks came in the 16,17,18 season. Their combined record those year 32-16. In the other 6 seasons as a starter including this one, three of them they were right at or below 500. And even though he’s plays in twice many games in those 6 seasons, he has only 30 percent of this career comebacks.

again proving the entire narrative you’re trying to create to support a QB that has never been clutch, is totally wrong

 

[HRMSU]

Dak might be better and the Cowboys team might be better if (1) Dak and his handlers didn't push so hard for Dak to be the highest player in the game, and (2) if Jerry Jones wasn't stupid enough to give it to him to the detriment of the quality of the team surrounding him.

That's just how the QB contracts work in the league. SF will sign their Dak contract with Purdy.

 

[HRMSU]

This to the T. Can’t say it any better

although can’t blame anyone for wanting more money… dak clearly was making it all about business and the qbs that make winning a priority leave a little on the table to make sure there is talent around them….

Not even close to being true. Each new QB contract sets the market in the NFL. Removing Brady's situation with his wife who earned more than him virtually no top 15 QB takes a hometown discount. The game is too brutal and careers too short.

 

[HRMSU]

Tony romo had 24 in roughly the same amount of starts and with a similar record team wise.

again the 15 number that was meant to prove clutchness is exactly the opposite.

also you may want to check the teams records and success that Carr has been on and compare to daks... way more similar than you are suggesting

Love Dak and State but Romo was a better QB. Lifelong Cowboys fan and guess what Romo faced the EXACT same criticism as Dak. He might have been criticized even more at crunch time.

 

[HRMSU]

I agree. This season is going to be a tough one. but track results are track results. Getting paid that type money you need to raise your level of play to make those around you better. And at times load the team up and will them to win. Both things that he’s rarely if ever shown.

he needs to be on a team where he’s got a lot of talent around him and he can be more of a game manager. Unfortunately now with this contract, that’s just not possible.

So, you're saying he needs a defense, running game, experienced o-line and more than one wide-out weapon? Yea, he's proven he can produce with that scenario except the playoffs. That's my only beef with him. The window has closed for all that to align for him but he had that more than Romo. They both choked away #1 seeds so there is that.

 

[HRMSU]

Dallas running game is no threat when your RB’s are Zeke and Dalvin Cook. You can really go after Dak.

I'm thinking Emmitt and Walter would struggle behind this line....Barry might flash***

 

[HuntDawg]

So, you're saying he needs a defense, running game, experienced o-line and more than one wide-out weapon? Yea, he's proven he can produce with that scenario except the playoffs. That's my only beef with him. The window has closed for all that to align for him but he had that more than Romo. They both choked away #1 seeds so there is that.

agree. the window as closed. He had much more to work with than romo ever did. Im not sure about the rest of what you're saying, but its clear to this point he cant load a team up and carry them. Not many can, but there are a few.

 

[HRMSU]

bad teams get blown out. Winning teams are more often than not are in a close game in the 4th quarter. Your argument that bad teams have a better chance to have a 4th quarter comeback is nothing more than your opinion… and basically flat out wrong

for example the titans and panthers are the worst two teams in the nfl this season. The chiefs and lions are the best. I’d be more than willing to bet the chiefs and lions end up with more for a 4th quarter comeback than titans and panthers…

but Then again you have to understand football to understand that.. hence this may be over your head

and oh yes you answered your question, romo was clutch and beloved. And why is it dak isn’t beloved… might have something to do with clutch, or lack there of….hmmm

Dude, stop it. I loved Romo but I can tell you that half of my Cowboys fans brethren hated him and claimed he choked at the end of every game throwing picks. What they won't admit is that other than a couple years he never had a legitimate D like Aikman. A QB in Dallas will never be over 50% loved UNTIL they win the SB....it's just how it is.

 

[HuntDawg]

Not even close to being true. Each new QB contract sets the market in the NFL. Removing Brady's situation with his wife who earned more than him virtually no top 15 QB takes a hometown discount. The game is too brutal and careers too short.

Its really not. I mean each contract is worth more than others. But again most QBs that are worried about winning.. will structure, re-structure, and make sure there are others around them that can help. No one is saying they didnt get paid.. but they didnt set the market either. They made sure there was enough to spare. For example Mahomes signed a 10 year deal. And has already re-structured his contract to benefit the organziation. You dont think he could get 60-70 million had he wanted it?

Again you dont think players like Mahomes, Brady, Either Manning, Brees, and company couldnt have named their price wherever they went.

Dak made it clear this decision was a business one, which again is fine... but thats going to keep the team in a bind. Again this really isnt arguable. They are going to have to get cheap, produtive talent to put around dak, and that comes from the draft. he's why they've kept all their draft picks, this year. They've gotta re model themselves due to the big contract.

 

[HuntDawg]

Love Dak and State but Romo was a better QB. Lifelong Cowboys fan and guess what Romo faced the EXACT same criticism as Dak. He might have been criticized even more at crunch time.

not disagreeing. Lifel long boys fan as well. Romo was much better with much less... and i think years after he's left, he's more apperciate now

 

[HuntDawg]

Dude, stop it. I loved Romo but I can tell you that half of my Cowboys fans brethren hated him and claimed he choked at the end of every game throwing picks. What they won't admit is that other than a couple years he never had a legitimate D like Aikman. A QB in Dallas will never be over 50% loved UNTIL they win the SB....it's just how it is.

I lived in dallas for 15 years. I think I have a good grasp on cowboy nation. However, youre entitled to your opinion.