That first domino might be Colorado leaving. What this tells me is that SDSU doesn't have any faith in the future of the Pac-12.
Expansion/Realignment Talk Heating Up Again
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Exactly.
Since PAC 12 negotiations are stalled, this is not a good sign for the future of that conference.
Catch-22. The PAC-12 can't lure any name schools until they have a decent contract and the networks don't want to overpay for what they get.
Some are adding Utah to this scenario as well. 2 news outlets jumped the gun and reported UC and UU had officially joined the B1G 12 several weeks ago (# awkward).
It's getting chippy between the MWC and SDSU.
It appears the Mountain West Conference and San Diego State are gearing up for a major war.
The MWC has decided to withhold a $6.6 million payment due to the Aztecs claiming SDSU left the conference and owes a $17 million exit fee, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune.
The issue all stems from a letter sent from SDSU to the MWC in June “to formally notice that San Diego State University intends to resign” its membership in anticipation of a PAC-12 invite that never came.
The Mountain West Conference has withheld a $6.6 million payment from San Diego State. (Photo by Tom Hauck/Getty Images)
That would automatically incur a $17 million exit fee. However, SDSU attempted to walk the letter back and claim it wasn’t an official notice of anything. Well, the MWC feels different and is now not handing SDSU $6.6 million in distribution money citing the conference’s bylaws.
The San Diego Union-Tribune reported the conference could be signaling to the Aztecs they’re gone after this year and it’s time to pay up, or it could be a negotiating tactic to gain leverage.
Either way, it appears the two sides are gearing up for a lengthy battle that could end up in court. San Diego State isn’t going to let the MWC take $6.6 million without a huge fight.
It appears the opening salvo of that fight has officially arrived.
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It appears the Mountain West Conference and San Diego State are gearing up for a major war.
The MWC has decided to withhold a $6.6 million payment due to the Aztecs claiming SDSU left the conference and owes a $17 million exit fee, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune.
The issue all stems from a letter sent from SDSU to the MWC in June “to formally notice that San Diego State University intends to resign” its membership in anticipation of a PAC-12 invite that never came.
MWC goes to war with San Diego State.
That would automatically incur a $17 million exit fee. However, SDSU attempted to walk the letter back and claim it wasn’t an official notice of anything. Well, the MWC feels different and is now not handing SDSU $6.6 million in distribution money citing the conference’s bylaws.
The San Diego Union-Tribune reported the conference could be signaling to the Aztecs they’re gone after this year and it’s time to pay up, or it could be a negotiating tactic to gain leverage.
Either way, it appears the two sides are gearing up for a lengthy battle that could end up in court. San Diego State isn’t going to let the MWC take $6.6 million without a huge fight.
It appears the opening salvo of that fight has officially arrived.
MWC Withholds $6.6 Million Payment To San Diego State, Claims The Aztecs Left The Conference
The Mountain West Conference withheld $6.6 million from San Diego State claiming the Aztecs left the conference.
www.outkick.com
This IS dicey.It's getting chippy between the MWC and SDSU.
It appears the Mountain West Conference and San Diego State are gearing up for a major war.
The MWC has decided to withhold a $6.6 million payment due to the Aztecs claiming SDSU left the conference and owes a $17 million exit fee, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune.
The issue all stems from a letter sent from SDSU to the MWC in June “to formally notice that San Diego State University intends to resign” its membership in anticipation of a PAC-12 invite that never came.
The Mountain West Conference has withheld a $6.6 million payment from San Diego State. (Photo by Tom Hauck/Getty Images)
MWC goes to war with San Diego State.
That would automatically incur a $17 million exit fee. However, SDSU attempted to walk the letter back and claim it wasn’t an official notice of anything. Well, the MWC feels different and is now not handing SDSU $6.6 million in distribution money citing the conference’s bylaws.
The San Diego Union-Tribune reported the conference could be signaling to the Aztecs they’re gone after this year and it’s time to pay up, or it could be a negotiating tactic to gain leverage.
Either way, it appears the two sides are gearing up for a lengthy battle that could end up in court. San Diego State isn’t going to let the MWC take $6.6 million without a huge fight.
It appears the opening salvo of that fight has officially arrived.
MWC Withholds $6.6 Million Payment To San Diego State, Claims The Aztecs Left The Conference
The Mountain West Conference withheld $6.6 million from San Diego State claiming the Aztecs left the conference.
Will South Carolina ever win the college football national championship? Probably not. Probably won't ever win the SEC conference either. Is it possible for South Carolina to have a magical year, finishing in the Top 3-4? Yes. In my opinion, we do have a ceiling. That ceiling is to be an annual Top 15 program and 30% of the time finish in the Top 10, once Beamer gets the program with a full roster of his recruits. If that happens, we all should be pleased, if not satisfied. If we are just a Top 15 program annually, I won't complain.
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Whoever produces the broadcast has to get paid, whether it winds up being streamed to the end user or not.
Such an easy concept to understand, yet inexplicably many do not.
It mystifies me that this fundamental is disregarded or not apprehended.
Sankey threw more cold water on SEC expansion at media days. One of the things that he brings up is interesting. He says that going to 20 teams would likely mean they would have to go to a regional telecast like the NFL does on Sunday. That is not the vision of the SEC. The vision is that every game is televised nationally if possible. He also referenced how hard it is to work with such a large group. For example, he really wanted to push a 9 game schedule. But it's getting harder and harder to gain alignment on anything when you keep adding votes. It seems like every time he is asked about it, he has shifted from "we're always evaluating expansion opportunities" to "16 is plenty, any more than that would be a mess".
247sports.com
'How are you going to function?': Why the SEC will not expand beyond 16 members
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey believes expanding beyond 16 teams would be a logistical nightmare, presenting challenges no one could predict.
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I like the league that is emerging and I like 16 teams. I honestly hope Sankey's perspectives, whatever they are, turn out to be always correct because the SEC is reposing a huge amount of trust in him to lead. His leadership extends to areas that will make or break the league in terms of preeminence.Sankey threw more cold water on SEC expansion at media days. One of the things that he brings up is interesting. He says that going to 20 teams would likely mean they would have to go to a regional telecast like the NFL does on Sunday. That is not the vision of the SEC. The vision is that every game is televised nationally if possible. He also referenced how hard it is to work with such a large group. For example, he really wanted to push a 9 game schedule. But it's getting harder and harder to gain alignment on anything when you keep adding votes. It seems like every time he is asked about it, he has shifted from "we're always evaluating expansion opportunities" to "16 is plenty, any more than that would be a mess".
'How are you going to function?': Why the SEC will not expand beyond 16 members
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey believes expanding beyond 16 teams would be a logistical nightmare, presenting challenges no one could predict.
The thoughts of the B1G outflanking us by expanding into the South or picking off Notre Dame trouble me. But whatever yields the most money PER school in the long run will prove to be the winning formula, I think.
If taken at his word, and I admit I have some doubts, Sankey is betting on branding over expansion for the long game. I don't know if I necessarily agree with this strategy, but only time will tell.
The possibility of the B1G expanding deep into the South is a very strong one, if any conference will acquire ND, then the B1G is the most likely and logical fit.
Many possibilities abound, but the one certainty is that there will be movement, and I as I have stated, it will sooner than later.
If taken at his word.... That's the big part for me. Not that hes a liar, but he's in that position, like an AD, where he'd put out a statement of support for the coach up until the press conference where he fires him.
Per Greg Sankey "The Sec is happy at 16 teams". Sorry you Clemson Trollers.
I agree with his assertion. There is a ceiling and 16 seems to be it. I'm glad to see Sankey commenting on the logistical issues that everyone typically glosses over.
I think it's more likely that the ACC starts making a play for B12/P12 teams as the GOR comes to a near. Hard to recruit schools when they're going to be handcuffed for so long. Much easier if they know the deal is going to be renegotiated in 2-3 years.
You've been very clear that either you don't believe or do not want the ACC to break up via members wanting to leave. And, that is fine. I'm not going to challenge you on that.
I can tell you this, there is one school working behind the scenes to move to another conference in the near future.
A 2037 expected timetable for any school to leave the ACC is farcical
It's both...don't believe it will break up. Nor do I want them to. It's a great regional conference rivalry that doesn't exist anywhere else in the country. Also, in general, I believe it's ultimately bad for CFB if there are two mega/power conferences and everyone else.
As I've said before, I believe you. Probably more than just one. It's just my opinion that there's no way out. So their best bet is to try to lure other programs from the B12 as the GOR nears an end to get a bigger bag. I do think if teams are successful in getting out of the ACC in the near term, it's going to be the B10 or B12, not the SEC.
No one obtainable - I agree. But it might not matter about that, depending on how the mop flops. There might come a time when it's about footprint. Notre Dame would lift any conference, like them or not. I don't consider them within reach of the SEC.
Meanwhile, in the PAC 12 arena, confusion reigns.
Oh, and now the Mountain West has informed that SDSU can stay.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports...ns-member-mountain-west-sides-resolve-dispute
My take is that the relationship between SDSU and the MW is now short term
'Reading too much into that': Pac-12 commissioner backtracks statement on media deal
https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...12-conference-football-media-day/70438080007/Oh, and now the Mountain West has informed that SDSU can stay.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports...ns-member-mountain-west-sides-resolve-dispute
My take is that the relationship between SDSU and the MW is now short term
If the SEC could somehow expand its footprint into North Carolina and Virginia, I'd like that. But they won't ask me. I'm just a foot soldier (fan).
I'd like it as a preemptive measure, to impede the B1G, but the 16-team model is at the upper end of optimal. I can see Sankey's point in that respect.
I can't find it right now, but there was an article making a case that the SEC takes two Big 12 teams to match the Big 10's ambition to be nation.
ABC......[ Anybody but Clemson]
ABC......[ Anybody but Clemson]
Just for fun, but if that would to occur, then to expand the footprint my candidates would be Cincinnati (Southern Ohio, and parts of N Kentucky fans aligned with UC) and WVU.
In my opinon picking up OSU or any Texas team would not expand the market.
No doubt about that. I'd be VERY satisfied to stay at 16. No conference needs to go above 16. IF they ever decided to go above 16, obviously, I have my preferences.
B1G 12 voted unanimously to accept their membership.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...bership-as-buffaloes-consider-leaving-pac-12/
Another PAC 12 school may be making an announcement imminently.
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Apparently the P12 is talking with the ACC. I know that's not a lot of info, but just adding to the convo.
Jim Williams
@JWMediaDC
I can confirm that
@pac12
have spoken with officials from
@theACC
ahead of a very important CEO and ad meeting set for later today. More to come as i get additional information.
P12/ACC Talks
Jim Williams
@JWMediaDC
I can confirm that
@pac12
have spoken with officials from
@theACC
ahead of a very important CEO and ad meeting set for later today. More to come as i get additional information.
P12/ACC Talks
ACC & PAC 12 attempting to keep any further members from bolting.Apparently the P12 is talking with the ACC. I know that's not a lot of info, but just adding to the convo.
Jim Williams
@JWMediaDC
I can confirm that
@pac12
have spoken with officials from
@theACC
ahead of a very important CEO and ad meeting set for later today. More to come as i get additional information.
P12/ACC Talks
(It's too late)
Those posts proved rather prescient. I want to see what comes of that other situation you furtively referred to a little while back.
Perhaps there could be an announcement in 19 days. At this time I'm not definitely saying there will be, but be aware that there is a possibility.Those posts proved rather prescient. I want to see what comes of that other situation you furtively referred to a little while back.
(A lot of legal maneuvering, that as we all know sometimes falls apart at the last minute)