FC: Deion Sanders Understands This Era of College Football Better Than Most by Jay Paterno

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I think the right approach towards Deion is to wait-and-see how things progress. Neither cast aspersions about his coaching style and methodology, nor proclaim him as the future of college football. Honestly, I think it will be fascinating just to watch how the Colorado program grows and progresses the next couple of years under his tutelage (assuming he is not hired away elsewhere).
 

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You mean if you say a bunch of outlandish sh*t and the media covers and amplifies your every sentence people will tune in to watch? Stunning!

If the media gave Sanders the coverage he deserves (which is not much), no one would care. As it is, they can't help themselves.
 

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As far as sports betting power ratings go, Colorado is on par with teams like South Alabama, Troy, and UTSA and slightly behind teams like Rutgers, Fresno State, and Toledo (factors in the loss of Travis Hunter). They have been way overrated by the public.
 

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Worth adding here Penn State/Iowa - even in a blowout and running against ND/OSU - was the 5th highest rated game of the weekend with about 2.5mm viewers. Top four were Oregon/Colorado, ND/OSU, Clemson/FSU, Bama/Ole Miss.
 

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As far as sports betting power ratings go, Colorado is on par with teams like South Alabama, Troy, and UTSA and slightly behind teams like Rutgers, Fresno State, and Toledo (factors in the loss of Travis Hunter). They have been way overrated by the public.
Not so sure that CU was overrated by the public. It clearly was by the media and this is America, so the sheep followed.
 

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I think Prime is a much better coach than he gets credit for. He has very solid staff and has some quality talent and will be able to add to it.

I am not a Prime supporter or hater, but folks should not sleep on how successful he truly may be in a FBS program after a few seasons.
 

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Not so sure that CU was overrated by the public. It clearly was by the media and this is America, so the sheep followed.
The only barometer I have is betting splits, which I feel generally represent who the general public likes. Colorado received about 75% of the wagers (not money) vs Nebraska and Colorado State and about 60% vs Oregon (support waned after the close loss vs Co St).

I think Prime is a much better coach than he gets credit for. He has very solid staff and has some quality talent and will be able to add to it.

I am not a Prime supporter or hater, but folks should not sleep on how successful he truly may be in a FBS program after a few seasons.
Could be, but can't gauge on this current season. He's probably going to recruit well and I agree that he hired some good coordinators. We'll see how he is with game planning, X and Os, and in game decisions.
 

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You mean if you say a bunch of outlandish sh*t and the media covers and amplifies your every sentence people will tune in to watch? Stunning!

If the media gave Sanders the coverage he deserves (which is not much), no one would care. As it is, they can't help themselves.
It is the modus opperendi of today’s current media to gain clicks etc. The same stuff happened with the Jets/Aaron Rodgers saga and is going on with Colorado and now, in the NFL, the Dolphins.
We shall see about Miami, I’ll be in Buffalo Sunday with my son to see how our Bills handle the Dolphins. This gif shows how the media is these days


 
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What's funny here is that Coach Sanders is actually pretty old school. Players can't have earrings on in the facility. He and his staff encourage the "yes sir and no sir" kind of mentality. His best HS recruit this last cycle has barely played because he hasn't practiced or prepared well enough.

People act like Coach Sanders is reality show coaching, and that's not the reality. Is he confident? Yes. Is he going to be pressured to change? No.

I think he'll do well. I'd even go as far as to say I HOPE that he does well.
 

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Wow. Where to start with this ridiculous and absurd overstatement of an article.

When did making a legal profit become equivalent to prostitution which is illegal in most states?

Colorado is a tier 2 program right now and Coach Sanders is trying to resurrect them back to tier 1 status. I doubt the college football world is looking at Colorado to model their football program. This article smacks of fear mongering.

Jay Paterno would have been better off looking at USC under Coach Lincoln Riley who has brought in 26+ transfers (some were poached from other schools).
 

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Be interesting to see how the media abandons them this week after USC hangs 50+ on them. Won't be the darling story anymore and media will move onto the next shiny object... Long term will be interesting to follow where the program is in 5 years top 5 ranking or in the low teens/upper 20s ...
 
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Be interesting to see how the media abandons them this week after USC hangs 50+ on them. Won't be the darling story anymore and media will move onto the next shiny object... Long term will interesting to follow where the program is in 5 years top 5 ranking or in the low teens/upper 20s ...
Deion's kids will have moved on and he will have done the same by then. This whole thing is only for his kids.
 

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Wow. Where to start with this ridiculous and absurd overstatement of an article.

When did making a legal profit become equivalent to prostitution which is illegal in most states?

Colorado is a tier 2 program right now and Coach Sanders is trying to resurrect them back to tier 1 status. I doubt the college football world is looking at Colorado to model their football program. This article smacks of fear mongering.

Jay Paterno would have been better off looking at USC under Coach Lincoln Riley who has brought in 26+ transfers (some were poached from other schools).

He refers to his players as luggage and threatened to (and then did) cut most of the roster. When you lack substance, go for style.
 

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What's funny here is that Coach Sanders is actually pretty old school. Players can't have earrings on in the facility. He and his staff encourage the "yes sir and no sir" kind of mentality. His best HS recruit this last cycle has barely played because he hasn't practiced or prepared well enough.

People act like Coach Sanders is reality show coaching, and that's not the reality. Is he confident? Yes. Is he going to be pressured to change? No.

I think he'll do well. I'd even go as far as to say I HOPE that he does well.

I agree. I think it is easy to confuse the media attention to the man himself.
And the media makes me want to puke regarding him.

His response to Dan Lanning, seemed to be, we got beat, and he didn't really respond.

i also thought it was pretty rich for Dan Lanning to pretend that his team was legit and not looking
for the clicks, when they made their name looking for the clicks.
 

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I agree. I think it is easy to confuse the media attention to the man himself.
And the media makes me want to puke regarding him.

His response to Dan Lanning, seemed to be, we got beat, and he didn't really respond.

i also thought it was pretty rich for Dan Lanning to pretend that his team was legit and not looking
for the clicks, when they made their name looking for the clicks.

Well, he said ‘get us now because this is as bad as we’re gonna be,’ - so, blaming the roster, which may be valid, but I don’t think he’s a good coach. We’ll know for sure when he can’t blame the roster anymore…
 

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Wow. Where to start with this ridiculous and absurd overstatement of an article.

When did making a legal profit become equivalent to prostitution which is illegal in most states?

Colorado is a tier 2 program right now and Coach Sanders is trying to resurrect them back to tier 1 status. I doubt the college football world is looking at Colorado to model their football program. This article smacks of fear mongering.

Jay Paterno would have been better off looking at USC under Coach Lincoln Riley who has brought in 26+ transfers (some were poached from other schools).
Look up the definition of "prostitute", verb form, and you will see that Jay was not making an analogy to prostitution.
 
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I agree. I think it is easy to confuse the media attention to the man himself.
And the media makes me want to puke regarding him.

His response to Dan Lanning, seemed to be, we got beat, and he didn't really respond.

i also thought it was pretty rich for Dan Lanning to pretend that his team was legit and not looking
for the clicks, when they made their name looking for the clicks.
I'll give Lanning some poetic license in his attempt to motivate his team. They, Colorado, were "playing for clicks?" Seriously? They were playing to win, just like Oregon. It's the media that wants, and profits from clicks.
 

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Well, he said ‘get us now because this is as bad as we’re gonna be,’ - so, blaming the roster, which may be valid, but I don’t think he’s a good coach. We’ll know for sure when he can’t blame the roster anymore…
FWIW - not much, just one guy's opinion - the "best" thing Sanders did was put together a good staff. Several guys who I think are pretty solid college coaches, led by that OC I have always liked (the guy who was the OC for Babs at Syracuse, and had a brief run w Kent State as HC).
 
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Not a bad article imho.

Primetime is one of the first to test ways to succeed quickly in this new era of player centric cfb. Check

My own take is that Deion likes to compete and is not concerned with standards, policies, other people’s views, failure, or really anything other than what he wants to achieve. Very MJ of him.
 
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Shouldn’t Jay be fixing the school’s financial issues, making their academic standard better, ensuring Ali Krieger attend BOT meetings and telling Brandon Short to STFU. What did I miss??
 

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And we read the garbage from jay why?
Sj has much more insight on coaching than jay ever will.

The love affair BWI members have with Jay Paterno is mind boggling to me.

The dude never earned anything on merit in his entire life. The fact that his Dad getting fired from Penn State equaled the end of his entire football coaching career says something about his lack of coaching talent. Instead of accepting that fact, he goes suing Penn State and blaming others for him never getting hired. Barf.
 

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Shouldn’t Jay be fixing the school’s financial issues, making their academic standard better, ensuring Ali Krieger attend BOT meetings and telling Brandon Short to STFU. What did I miss??

You missed lots of stuff! For example, some of Jay's "greatest hits" in recent years:

1. Filing frivolous lawsuits against Penn State.

2. Actively trying to undermine PSU football coaches (cough cough Bill O'Brien cough cough).

3. Starting ventures (such as running for Congress) and then giving that up after a couple months because he realized it would just be another thing he'd be unsuccessful at,

4. Being a paid shill for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
 

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You mean if you say a bunch of outlandish sh*t and the media covers and amplifies your every sentence people will tune in to watch? Stunning!

If the media gave Sanders the coverage he deserves (which is not much), no one would care. As it is, they can't help themselves.
The problem isn't "the media" it's the people who watch and read this crap. "The Media" merely supplies what the public demands.
 

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I agree. I think it is easy to confuse the media attention to the man himself.
And the media makes me want to puke regarding him.

His response to Dan Lanning, seemed to be, we got beat, and he didn't really respond.

i also thought it was pretty rich for Dan Lanning to pretend that his team was legit and not looking
for the clicks, when they made their name looking for the clicks.


100%

The media latched onto the first shiny thing that they saw. If someone takes the time to listen to and read his interviews, they'll see a guy who takes what he's doing seriously. He wants to build a culture.

Dan Lanning and Oregon came off looking like a joke. They were clearly looking for attention because nobody has ever cared about them and probably never will. The video that they released post game was petty as hell.

As far as calling the players luggage goes. Colorado was a 1 win team. The players weren't good enough. What do you want him to do? Coach Sanders did what 90% of coaches who take over losing programs want to do but can't. I don't blame him for what he did.
 

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What's funny here is that Coach Sanders is actually pretty old school. Players can't have earrings on in the facility. He and his staff encourage the "yes sir and no sir" kind of mentality. His best HS recruit this last cycle has barely played because he hasn't practiced or prepared well enough.

I read yesterday that he disciplined two players for kneeling during the national anthem.
 
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