FC: Deion Sanders Understands This Era of College Football Better Than Most by Jay Paterno

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I read yesterday that he disciplined two players for kneeling during the national anthem.
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You missed lots of stuff! For example, some of Jay's "greatest hits" in recent years:

1. Filing frivolous lawsuits against Penn State.

2. Actively trying to undermine PSU football coaches (cough cough Bill O'Brien cough cough).

3. Starting ventures (such as running for Congress) and then giving that up after a couple months because he realized it would just be another thing he'd be unsuccessful at,

4. Being a paid shill for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
.....As the majority of our nation's Legislative Branch?

Get real, bone head, probably the next frivolous statement from your hole will be that Jay's a communist and traitor to our society over an "Opinion column".
 
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.....As the majority of our nation's Legislative Branch?

Get real bone head, probably the next frivolous statement from your hole will be that Jay's a communist and traitor to our society over an "Opinion column".

You're really going to defend Jay for shilling for one of the most repressive and freedom-averse countries in the world?

You're going to defend Jay over that?

Look, I get it ---- a lot of our Congress-critters do the same thing. But all those folks are known scumballs TOO. Jay's a private citizen who is doing fine financially (because of the $$$ he inherited from his Dad, of course, not because he built anything on his own). Him taking the "proverbial 30 pieces of silver" of Saudi bucks says a lot about his lack of character.

Jay sucks.
 

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You're really going to defend Jay for shilling for one of the most repressive and freedom-averse countries in the world?

You're going to defend Jay over that?

Look, I get it ---- a lot of our Congress-critters do the same thing. But all those folks are known scumballs TOO. Jay's a private citizen who is doing fine financially (because of the $$$ he inherited from his Dad, of course, not because he built anything on his own). Him taking the "proverbial 30 pieces of silver" of Saudi bucks says a lot about his lack of character.

Jay sucks.
If you are looking for PSU "leaders" to critique for capitalizing on funding generated through cooperation with "repressive regimes", you are barking so far up the wrong tree (or, at the very least, the "lesser of two evils tree") it isn't funny.
Enough said.
 
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Jay says, "Most schools in the country have chased the showbiz element of college football. Flashing lights in the tunnel, smoke and fireworks are part of the show at almost every school. None of that makes you special anymore. Schools build massive football facilities packed with flashy amenities that are not connected with anything that helps you on fourth down and ballgame. "
Jay doesn't understand they are directly connected. The quality of players and coaches determine if you win 4th down and ballgame. In today's game money will determine how many quality players and coaches you have to win 4th down.
 

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I donā€™t dislike Sanders. I donā€™t like what he did to all of the scholarship athletes, but thatā€™s the point of Jayā€™s articleā€¦thatā€™s the new era we live in.

My take on Prime is that heā€™s always been (IMO) more style than substance. Yes, he was a great player, but he was not nearly the player his persona wanted every to believe he was. Heā€™s always been about hype and for the most part, always been about himself. To that extent, I think his current schtick is a bit disingenuous, albeit entertaining.
 

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Jay says, "Most schools in the country have chased the showbiz element of college football. Flashing lights in the tunnel, smoke and fireworks are part of the show at almost every school. None of that makes you special anymore. Schools build massive football facilities packed with flashy amenities that are not connected with anything that helps you on fourth down and ballgame. "
Jay doesn't understand they are directly connected. The quality of players and coaches determine if you win 4th down and ballgame. In today's game money will determine how many quality players and coaches you have to win 4th down.
If you carefully reread the excerpt you cited, you may find that Jay just might understand.
 

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Deon Sanders & Colorado came within 1 TD of tying the game against a solid & undefeated USC team, they actually outplayed USC in the 2nd half. His personality and attitude can be a turnoff at times, but in yesterdayā€™s post game interview he was rather reserved. I think we need to remember that this team was 1-11 last year and now the talking heads are saying coach Sanders is 5 to 6 players away from making the playoffs. Whether this is true or not, he and his staff has to get some credit. I actually agree with Jayā€™s article.
 
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What's funny here is that Coach Sanders is actually pretty old school. Players can't have earrings on in the facility. He and his staff encourage the "yes sir and no sir" kind of mentality. His best HS recruit this last cycle has barely played because he hasn't practiced or prepared well enough.

People act like Coach Sanders is reality show coaching, and that's not the reality. Is he confident? Yes. Is he going to be pressured to change? No.

I think he'll do well. I'd even go as far as to say I HOPE that he does well.
Well put, CU has some talent, but not nearly enough in yr one to beat the likes of UO, SC etc.. the goal has always been get 6 wins and a Bowl yr one and go from there. Good article from Jay, as usual he catches unwarranted s**t.
 

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Deon Sanders & Colorado came within 1 TD of tying the game against a solid & undefeated USC team, they actually outplayed USC in the 2nd half. His personality and attitude can be a turnoff at times, but in yesterdayā€™s post game interview he was rather reserved. I think we need to remember that this team was 1-11 last year and now the talking heads are saying coach Sanders is 5 to 6 players away from making the playoffs. Whether this is true or not he and his staff has to get some credit. I actually agree with Jayā€™s article.
I've never liked him, not in college, not in the NFL, not as a talking head- but I agree with you.
 

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Well put, CU has some talent, but not nearly enough in yr one to beat the likes of UO, SC etc.. the goal has always been get 6 wins and a Bowl yr one and go from there. Good article from Jay, as usual he catches unwarranted s**t.

If Coach Sanders goes 6-6 or 7-5, that's a phenomenal turn around. He's well on his way to that. Looking at their schedule, 7-5 and a bowl game is well within reach. If the defense had shown up for the first half Saturday, he'd have a win over USC under his belt.
 

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If Coach Sanders goes 6-6 or 7-5, that's a phenomenal turn around. He's well on his way to that. Looking at their schedule, 7-5 and a bowl game is well within reach. If the defense had shown up for the first half Saturday, he'd have a win over USC under his belt.
Agree. If you're a CU fan or the AD there right now, you're not regretting this hire so far. The ones that tend to be hateful towards him tend to be hateful towards a lot of things if you're being honest. He cleaned house from a team that won 1 game last year......well yeah...he wants to and is paid to win games. The people stuck in the last millennium will stay there and pout, but so far he's been a success there. Dabo is being stubborn about the portal....how is that working out for a team he had at the top of the hill the last 5 or so years.
 

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Someone tell Jay the Miami game was almost 40 years ago.
You hit the nail on the head. Back then his dad benched players in bowl games for missing classes. Bobby Bowden ,Deion's coach played him in a bowl game despite the fact Deion didn't allegedly attend any Fall classes. When asked Bowden joked,"Doesn't matter he's gonna play pro football". Back then it was a contest between Joe and Bobbly for the most W's in college football. Different world today. With NIL,transfers,bringing in celebrities, etc Deion will be putting some serious talent on the football field. Colorado fans won't question his methods if he's a winner.
 

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Agree. If you're a CU fan or the AD there right now, you're not regretting this hire so far. The ones that tend to be hateful towards him tend to be hateful towards a lot of things if you're being honest. He cleaned house from a team that won 1 game last year......well yeah...he wants to and is paid to win games. The people stuck in the last millennium will stay there and pout, but so far he's been a success there. Dabo is being stubborn about the portal....how is that working out for a team he had at the top of the hill the last 5 or so years.


We all know at least one reason why people are going to hope he fails. I'm not saying that's everyone's reason, but it's the reason form some people.

As far as cleaning house goes....I've been saying the same thing. What did you want him to do? Coach Sanders simply did what every coach who's taken over a horrible team has wanted to do but couldn't do.
 

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Agree. If you're a CU fan or the AD there right now, you're not regretting this hire so far. The ones that tend to be hateful towards him tend to be hateful towards a lot of things if you're being honest. He cleaned house from a team that won 1 game last year......well yeah...he wants to and is paid to win games. The people stuck in the last millennium will stay there and pout, but so far he's been a success there. Dabo is being stubborn about the portal....how is that working out for a team he had at the top of the hill the last 5 or so years.
Truth. But, the fact is Deion is all about Deion, and in this case his sons. I think it has very litlle to do with money for him. It's the spotlight. Hell, I was a fan of his when he played for the Braves 30 years ago. He's still the same guy. He's going to jump at the first chance he gets to go to a big market, and he'll take his players with him.
 
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Truth. But, the fact is Deion is all about Deion, and in this case his sons. Hell, I was a fan of his when he played for the Braves 30 years ago. He's still the same guy.
True, but he also donated half his salary at Jackson State and is saying the right things about going to class. Some people see Deion today as the Deion of 30 years ago and while some of it still there....some of it has also matured.
 

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True, but he also donated half his salary at Jackson State and is saying the right things about going to class. Some people see Deion today as the Deion of 30 years ago and while some of it still there....some of it has also matured.
I edited after you quoted. Just wanted to let you know, because I hate when I like something then the post is changed to something I totally disagree with.
 
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Truth. But, the fact is Deion is all about Deion, and in this case his sons. I think it has very litlle to do with money for him. It's the spotlight. Hell, I was a fan of his when he played for the Braves 30 years ago. He's still the same guy. He's going to jump at the first chance he gets to go to a big market, and he'll take his players with him.
He's no different than 99% of college coaches (Ferentz maybe is the hold out) who all move to bigger jobs when presented the opportunity. Saban did it. Harbaugh did it. Dabo did it. Franklin did it and told the kids 2-3 days before he wasn't going anywhere which is what they all do. That is more of the nature of the business than a negative for Sanders. They all move around to get ahead.
 
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He's no different than 99% of college coaches (Ferentz maybe is the hold out) who all move to bigger jobs when presented the opportunity. Saban did it. Harbaugh did it. Day did it. Dabo did it. Franklin did it and told the kids 2-3 days before he wasn't going anywhere which is what they all do. That is more of the nature of the business than a negative for Sanders.

I don't know why this is so hard for people to grasp. There are 10-12 jobs, tops, in college football that are true premier jobs. We're talking facilities, booster support, media exposure, etc. As close to perfect as you're going to get in college football. And guess what, every coach not in those jobs wants to get into those jobs.

When Coach Saban retires, you can bet your *** that 90% of the coaches in America would take that job in New York minute if they were offered. They wouldn't even bother to pack up the house. They'll just toss the family into the SUV and buy all new stuff.

Beyond that, part of Coach Sanders job is promoting himself and his program. I think that we're seeing a lot of jealousy from fans and fanbases who have coaches who aren't as good at it as he is. If Coach Franklin were more dynamic, Penn State fans would be defending him and not talking about his shameless self promotion.
 

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He's no different than 99% of college coaches (Ferentz maybe is the hold out) who all move to bigger jobs when presented the opportunity. Saban did it. Harbaugh did it. Dabo did it. Franklin did it and told the kids 2-3 days before he wasn't going anywhere which is what they all do. That is more of the nature of the business than a negative for Sanders. They all move around to get ahead.
No doubt, but it's just my opinion that getting ahead for Deion is seeking the bigger spotlight and there's nothing wrong with that. It's ckear he still has that competitive fire.
 
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No doubt, but it's just my opinion that getting ahead for Deion is seeking the bigger spotlight and there's nothing wrong with that. It's ckear he still has that competitive fire.
Iā€™m kind of surprised he wants to deal with with coaching. You donā€™t see many that reached his level on the field want to recruit or coach. I just wonder how long he lasts before he gets burned out.
 
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As far as cleaning house goes....I've been saying the same thing. What did you want him to do? Coach Sanders simply did what every coach who's taken over a horrible team has wanted to do but couldn't do.
I would have had a lot more respect for him if he would have kept most of those kids and developed them into a winning team, but he took the easy way out and brought in a bunch of new kids. When you replace kids who were struggling without giving them a chance, and replace them with higher rated kids, that doesnā€™t really show me youā€™re a good coach. Thatā€™s just me though.
 
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Iā€™m kind of surprised he wants to deal with with coaching. You donā€™t see many that reached his level on the field want to recruit or coach. I just wonder how long he lasts before he gets burned out.


He'll move on when the media eventually moves on (and they will). He is a creation of the media and will quickly be tossed aside by the media when the next carnival barker comes to town.
 

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True, but he also donated half his salary at Jackson State and is saying the right things about going to class. Some people see Deion today as the Deion of 30 years ago and while some of it still there....some of it has also matured.
Well said. He supposedly doesn't drink and is well liked by his staff and players. We had to dismiss (I was an assistant) Larry Fitzgerald in high school because of his immaturity. Now he returns to Minneapolis every summer, runs a football camp, and stresses education. People change.
 
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