FC/OT: You’re the Playoff Committee - what do you do?
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If I am the complete CFP committee, the first thing I’d do is sleep with my 13 wives, one after the other.
One easy decision for the committee: Leave Penn State out.
The wildest thing about this is in the first year of an expanded playoff Penn State is a likely 4 seed in a four team playoff year.
That was one reason I was dying on Saturday, I dreaded the possibility of IU getting in and PSU not being chosen.The wildest thing about this is in the first year of an expanded playoff Penn State is a likely 4 seed in a four team playoff year.
Losses by Texas and Notre Dame this weekend would help solve their dilemma. Crossing my fingers.....
As much as possible, avoid matchups between schools from the same conference until the championship game
a good one this week from SEC Shorts:
Auburn over Bama, too - three bad losses would cancel out some of that SOS and 4 top 25 wins.
Syracuse beating Miami would help too - I think
I would declare Penn State as National Champions, send a note to Sue Paterno apologizing on behalf of Richard Nixon for 1969, and then continue on with the playoffs for everyone to play for 2nd place.
And if that didn't work I would order a Code Red.
And if that didn't work I would order a Code Red.
I mean, looking at the list, seems the first 11 are a lock, barring no major upsets in the last week. Only remaining question is do you take 2 loss Clemson over 3 loss Alabama, and I think the answer is yes, but only because 3 losses and still the ability to compete for a Natty is a bad look IMO.
Edit: that said, this is also why I wanted only an expansion of the playoff to 6 teams. Even 2 losses is pushing it in my mind as to who is "worthy" to win a National title.
Edit: that said, this is also why I wanted only an expansion of the playoff to 6 teams. Even 2 losses is pushing it in my mind as to who is "worthy" to win a National title.
Keep in mind, the Big 12 Champ will already knock out the "12"
I think the nonconference winner highest seeds are :The wildest thing about this is in the first year of an expanded playoff Penn State is a likely 4 seed in a four team playoff year.
Oregon
Penn State
Notre Dame or Tennessee
I just can't see the Buckeyes losing to Oregon on a neutral field
It kind of really doesn't matter. It's a relative ranking system. There are no "absolute" numbers, with the exception of the number of teams in the playoff to fill out the brackett.
In your scenario of six teams; if 4 teams have one loss, and two teams have 2 losses, and the 7th-12th team have 3 losses, then the two loss teams are going to get in. Because, relative to the other teams, they have less losses.
Conversely, if 4 teams are undefeated and the next two teams have 1 loss, and the 7th-12 th team have 2 losses, then the teams with 2 losses don't get it. Because it's the rankings are relative to the other teams.
Each year is different and there are no absolute numbers. You shouldn't really get hung up on the number of losses as an absolute number.
Right, but you need a Big XII champ and highest ranked group of five team in there too, so can’t just take the top 12.
Assuming they beat Maryland, I can't see how PSU isn't the highest ranked non conference team. Which is good.
Edit: assuming the Buckeyes beat Michigan
Along those lines:
I looked back just three years ago - before the latest rounds of conference expansion stuff really took off:
The top 12 teams after 11 weeks of play ALL had at least one win over a top 20 team. Every one of them.
This year?
Of the top 12 teams in the polls - seven of them - SEVEN - have not a single win against a top 20 team on their entire schedule.
That is what the move towards "dilution of quality" expansions, and the move by more and more teams (not all) to avoid top OOC opponents will do for you.
Penn State, of course, is one of those teams in the top 12 without a top 20 win. FWIW, PSU played 4 conference games this year where they faced relatively new adds to the conference - the best of which sits at 6-5, and have combined for a 20-24 record - just 13-24 against P4 opponents. Add in the gauntlet of OOC foes, and there you have it. Conference dilution and Pay Days.
But that is just one for instance, this is not a Penn State issue, it is a college football issue - they have a lot of company. Indiana, Texas, Boise St, Miami, SMU, and Clemson also have ZERO top 20 wins. That, to me, is very damning wrt the state of college football.
Again, just three years ago, every top 12 team had at least one top 20 win, and most had 2 or more.
Is this the new age of "schedule as much mediocrity as possible, make as much $$ as possible through pay day games, and hope to win 10 out of 12 to make the playoffs"? Time will tell.
But if the CFP goes down the road of elevating teams based on # of wins, regardless of whether or not they beat anyone good, it just may be.
I don't think that is what anyone - at least not the fans - hoped to see. Be careful what you wish for.
I actually hope the CFP will take a closer look and elevate those teams with quality wins (no matter which conference they are from) - more so than they elevate teams with fewer losses, but no quality wins.
Big 10 CCG loser will get the 5 spot (assuming OSU wins against Michigan)
And head to The Phyrst and have a chick tell you to GFY! With a rum and coke of course!
They likely would have been left out as #5, giving ND the nod, since the Big 10 already had 2 squads in the top 4. So, we're likely being saved from an absolute shafting (hopefully Bob can control himself).The wildest thing about this is in the first year of an expanded playoff Penn State is a likely 4 seed in a four team playoff year.
Penn State would have almost certainly been left out of a 4-team playoff this year. It would have been Oregon, Texas, tOSU and ND (or maybe Georgia) barring major upsets the rest of the season. We would have been looking at another NY6 bowl.
I like things better how they are now.
This would be a pretty good draw for PSU. R1 vs Ind and R2 v Boise.
I think the committee might flip Tenn and Indy, to avoid a Big 10 R1 match up.
Actually they would have put ND as the 4th seedThe wildest thing about this is in the first year of an expanded playoff Penn State is a likely 4 seed in a four team playoff year.
So, I am curious. What team are you advocating for that has a “quality win” but more losses?
FYI. Illinois was ranked #19 when Penn State beat them. They are currently ranked 25 in the playoff rankings and 22 in the AP. Also, there is no “new age” of college football scheduling lesser opponents. It has been going on for decades. The SEC has beat up on Wofford, Mercer, Troy, The Citadel, etc for years. The B1G has always scheduled MAC teams. This has nothing to do with the new playoff expansion.
To me, the choice is between aZ state and Clemson.
Do I think Bama is one of the best 10 teams? Yup. bama, osu, and Ga have the best talent money can buy. No question.
But let me ask this. Say the1998 Yankees, with the best team money can buy, lost in the wild card series? Do yo say, well, they are the best team, so let’s have them advance. Fvc no!! They lost, they’re out. Thems the rules
Oh wait. The committee has no rules. Other than to give SEC teams as many chances as possible.
Why is this even a question?
SMH
Indiana's schedule this year is even weaker than ours. They've been clobbering their opponents, and all credit to them for doing so, but they haven't played anyone decent until Saturday when they got smoked by the Buckeyes.
I'm not saying Saturday's matchup wasn't interesting, and Indiana did hang in there for a while, but at the end of the day... yeah... reality asserted itself.
I do not think Ohio State is as stalwart as many others seem to believe.
We did not play particularly well in our game against them (hardly any attempts to throw the ball down field) and still only lost by 1 score.
Many people seem to think it's a foregone conclusion that tOSU wins the conference championship, but I dunno. They're vulnerable. Certainly more than they have been in past years.
Yeah. The best we can do is 6th seed because the B1G championship runner up will be #5.
Sure, but the choice between a 10-2 Penn State and a 11-1 Indiana isn’t all that cut and dried. We needed to win this past Saturday.
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You try lipreading thirteen women at the same time. The sex part would be easy.Why only one at a time?
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Corollary... Consult with Herbstreit as to if teams pass the "looks test".
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